Base system directory sizes for FreeBSD/i386 7 8
Hi, I am interested in installing FreeBSD/i386 7-STABLE testing -CURRENT with either encryption of all the slices or only $HOME (possibly just a plain directory). Could you please let me know the directory sizes for the base system with debug kernel (including old one) for FreeBSD/i386 7 8? What would be the additional overhead for encryption of slices|direcoteries? And, how does zfs use affect the overall things? - Parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mounting hfs+ ipod on freebsd i386
Does the kernel need to be rebuilt in order to mount an ipod formatted with apple's hfs+ filesystem? If yes, what options are needed in the kernel and if not, what needs to be done? Other than reformatting to fat32. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting hfs+ ipod on freebsd i386
On Thursday 31 July 2008, David Gurvich wrote: Does the kernel need to be rebuilt in order to mount an ipod formatted with apple's hfs+ filesystem? If yes, what options are needed in the kernel and if not, what needs to be done? Other than reformatting to fat32. Take a look at emulators/hfs and/or emulators/hfsutils. I haven't used either but it looks like they should do the trick. My guess is they run in userland and don't require kernel modifications. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is FreeBSD i386 64bit?
Coming from the Linux world I am pretty new to FreeBSD, please bare with me. I find the FreeBSD handbook pretty useful and I just managed to update 7.0-RELEASE to 7-STABLE from source. I have an Intel core4quad CPU and was wondering if I now have a 64bit FreeBSD. I am a bit confused because from /usr/src/sys/ I only see the directories amd64, ia64 and sparc64 with the number 64 in it. Another question, is setting CPUTYPE advised or discouraged? I am aware about problems if you mix binaries built with different CPU flags; not a problem for me because coming from Gentoo I am used to build everything myself. Sandra -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Sandra Kachelmann ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD i386 64bit?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:56:06PM +0200, Sandra Kachelmann wrote: Coming from the Linux world I am pretty new to FreeBSD, please bare with me. I find the FreeBSD handbook pretty useful and I just managed to update 7.0-RELEASE to 7-STABLE from source. I have an Intel core4quad CPU and was wondering if I now have a 64bit FreeBSD. I am a bit confused because from /usr/src/sys/ I only see the directories amd64, ia64 and sparc64 with the number 64 in it. FreeBSD i386 is 32-bit. For 64-bit you will want the amd64 variant. (Yes, it will work on Intel's 64-bit x86 CPUs as well. It is called amd64 because AMD defined the architecture and thus got to name it, and then Intel copied it.) Another question, is setting CPUTYPE advised or discouraged? Generally discouraged. I am aware about problems if you mix binaries built with different CPU flags; not a problem for me because coming from Gentoo I am used to build everything myself. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD i386 64bit?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:56:06 +0200 Sandra Kachelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming from the Linux world I am pretty new to FreeBSD, please bare with me. I find the FreeBSD handbook pretty useful and I just managed to update 7.0-RELEASE to 7-STABLE from source. I have an Intel core4quad CPU and was wondering if I now have a 64bit FreeBSD. I am a bit confused because from /usr/src/sys/ I only see the directories amd64, ia64 and sparc64 with the number 64 in it. The source tree has the code for both the i386 (32-bit) and various 64-bit OS in it. So the source tree can be used to compile the 64-bit version, but it doesn't give you any indication of what version you actually have installed. The output of 'uname -a' will tell you what your currently running system is. If it says i386, then you're running the 32-bit version, if it says amd64, you're running the 64-bit version. Note that Intel chips use amd64, despite the fact that it has AMD in the name. Another question, is setting CPUTYPE advised or discouraged? I am aware about problems if you mix binaries built with different CPU flags; not a problem for me because coming from Gentoo I am used to build everything myself. I've never had any trouble setting CPUTYPE, unless I set it to an incorrect value. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NVidia 100.14.19 for FreeBSD i386 released
Hi, see: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=100077 is it working for anybody? regards, usleep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NVidia 100.14.19 for FreeBSD i386 released
Not on amd64 but no nvidia kernel module ever has On 10/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, see: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=100077 is it working for anybody? regards, usleep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD/i386
Dear Sir/Madam, I'm a Windows Platform user, I just got the machine that contain FreeBSD/i386 already install. I try to use it but I can't get through the the login password screen. This machine was left over from the place that I used to work but it had been closed my boss gave to me. It the Travla mini-ITX case brand new and it small when I turn it on it just ask for loin name and password , I just have no idea who should I ask for help because I don't know how they get this machine from. Thank you for your time. Regards, Leo. (New York) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 03:45:13PM -0500, Nattawut wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I'm a Windows Platform user, I just got the machine that contain FreeBSD/i386 already install. I try to use it but I can't get through the the login password screen. This machine was left over from the place that I used to work but it had been closed my boss gave to me. It the Travla mini-ITX case brand new and it small when I turn it on it just ask for loin name and password , I just have no idea who should I ask for help because I don't know how they get this machine from. Thank you for your time. Depends on what you want to do with the machine. If you want to use it with Windows, I would suggest that you trash the FreeBSD installation and install Windows over it. Otherwise you will have to put in the time to learn the O/S; there are quite a few resources on the 'Net including the FreeBSD Handbook, as well as Greg Lehey's (free) book The Complete FreeBSD. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386
Nattawut wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I'm a Windows Platform user, I just got the machine that contain FreeBSD/i386 already install. I try to use it but I can't get through the the login password screen. This machine was left over from the place that I used to work but it had been closed my boss gave to me. It the Travla mini-ITX case brand new and it small when I turn it on it just ask for loin name and password , I just have no idea who should I ask for help because I don't know how they get this machine from. Thank you for your time. Regards, Hello, Leo/Nattawut! There are a bunch of Sirs and some Madams here (we are all FreeBSD users -- this is a volunteer help mailing list). Before I make any other suggestions, let me suggest that you take a look at the FreeBSD Handbook (where many questions like this are answered already). You can find it online at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook Next, try logging in with username root and nothing else (i.e., simply press ENTER when prompted for a password). If that doesn't work, look for escape to loader prompt on the 3rd stage boot menu, and press the appropriate key on your system's keyboard. You will receive a simple command prompt; type boot -s at this prompt. If you are prompted enter name of default shell or press RETURN for /bin/sh, then press RETURN and then do as follows ($ is the computer's prompt; type the commands as shown following the $). $ mount -a $ passwd Changing local password for root. Enter new password: mypasswordhere Retype new password: mypasswordhere $ shutdown -r now This will mount all filesystems so that the password file can be changed, change the root password to a password of your choosing, and reboot the system to normal mode. If this procedure doesn't work, don't be alarmed---there are a few possibilities that might keep this from working; check the handbook, and, if needed, write again to the questions@ list with a new subject line describing your new problem. HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- Personifiers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but Mr. Dignity! -- Bernadette Bosky ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386
mini-ITX case brand new and it small when I turn it on it just ask for loin name and password , I just have no idea who should I ask for help because I don't know how they get this machine from. Thank you for your time. see www.freebsd.org and look at handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IBM ServeRAID-8k SAS controller support in FreeBSD/i386 6.1-RELEASE.
Hello everyone, Has anyone tried the IBM ServeRAID-8k SAS controller under FreeBSD/i386 6.1-RELEASE ? I can't find info about this particular model in the FreeBSD/i386 6.1-RELEASE Hardware Notes. I've found that the ServeRAID 6i/6M controllers are supported by the ips(4) driver, but nothing about the ServeRAID-8k SAS one. Nothing in the mailing lists also. Many thanks, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FREEBSD I386 BOOT HANG
I HAVE A TOSHIBA LAPTOP I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO LOAD THE CD VERSION 5.2.1 FREEBSD ONTO MY LAPTOP WITH NO LUCK. IT FREEZES AFTER THE IT BOOTS, I DID DISABLE THE ACPI BUT IT STILL FROZE. IS THERE A WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM? THANKS IOTA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FREEBSD I386 BOOT HANG
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 03:45:47 -0700 (PDT) CATHERINE LORENZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HAVE A TOSHIBA LAPTOP I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO LOAD THE CD VERSION 5.2.1 FREEBSD ONTO MY LAPTOP WITH NO LUCK. IT FREEZES AFTER THE IT BOOTS, I DID DISABLE THE ACPI BUT IT STILL FROZE. IS THERE A WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM? First of all, are you able to try a supported / non-dev version of FreeBSD (I'd strongly suggest 6.1-RELEASE)? If not, where does it get to before freezing? Last message on the screen? You've tried leaving it there for more than 30 seconds (my (rather old) CD drive takes half a minute or so to be probed)? THANKS IOTA By the way, you might wanna check your caps lock / read up on netiquette (see RFC 1855) :-) -- Nick Withers email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FREEBSD I386 BOOT HANG
CATHERINE LORENZ wrote: I HAVE A TOSHIBA LAPTOP I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO LOAD THE CD VERSION 5.2.1 FREEBSD ONTO MY LAPTOP WITH NO LUCK. IT FREEZES AFTER THE IT BOOTS, I DID DISABLE THE ACPI BUT IT STILL FROZE. IS THERE A WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM? 5.2.1 is so old that it is no longer supported: please try either FreeBSD 6.1 or 5.5 instead... (You also have a stuck CAPSLOCK key.) -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release) Does nat that is build in to userland ppp work with the Generic Kernel?
Should I be able to get the nat option in ppp to work with the Generic kernel in 6.0 release? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release) Does nat that is build in to userland ppp work with the Generic Kernel?
Rick McCombs wrote: Should I be able to get the nat option in ppp to work with the Generic kernel in 6.0 release? Yes, it should Just Work; or, at least it has for me all through 5.X Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release) Does nat that is build in to userland ppp work with the Generic Kernel?
Turns out it is working, but I'm having trouble with named. I guess I'll figure it out. On 1/16/06, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick McCombs wrote: Should I be able to get the nat option in ppp to work with the Generic kernel in 6.0 release? Yes, it should Just Work; or, at least it has for me all through 5.X Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't build Java 1.5.0 on FreeBSD/i386 6.0-RELEASE (inside jail)
Hi I have successfully built Java 1.4.2 inside a jail on 5.4, but am having problems doing the same thing for 1.5.0 on 6.0. I have all the Sun stuff downloaded as well as the linux 1.4.2 runtime port installed fine. The build ran for a million hours. At which point it came back with: gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/ sun/javac/javac' gmake /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/bin/javac VARIANT=OPT gmake[6]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/ sun/javac/javac' rm -f /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/tmp/sun/ com.sun.tools.javac/javac/.classes.list /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/bin/java - classpath ../../../tools/CompileProperties CompileProperties ../../../../src/share/classes/com/sun/tools/javac/ resources/compiler.properties /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/ build/bsd-i586/gensrc/com/sun/tools/javac/resources/compiler.java Error: could not find libjava.so Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment. gmake[6]: *** [/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/ gensrc/com/sun/tools/javac/resources/compiler.java] Error 2 gmake[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/sun/ javac/javac' gmake[5]: *** [optimized] Error 2 gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/sun/ javac/javac' gmake[4]: *** [all] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/sun/ javac' gmake[3]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/ java/javac' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make/java' gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/j2se/make' gmake: *** [j2se-build] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15. # a find shows: # find / -name libjava.so -print /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so /usr/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-i586/lib/i386/libjava.so /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14/work/j2sdk1.4.2_10/jre/lib/i386/ libjava.so # Google showed various issues none of them related to building and installing. thanks for any ideas Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg Radeon cards
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:19:31PM -0400, jason henson wrote: Sean Davis wrote: Hello, first let me enumerate the hardware I've seen this happen on: 1) Athlon XP 2700+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 9200 AGP8X w/ 128MB 2) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 7000 AGP4X w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB 3) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 NVidia GeForce4 AGP8X (I think) w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB RAM On machine #2 (which is also machine #3), I'm trying to do a dual-head setup. Currently the primary video card is an AGP Geforce4. But that doesn't seem to matter. On all of these setups (9200, 7000, 7500) xorgcfg hardlocks the machine. No matter what I do. Xorg works just fine in Linux on the same hardware. (but no dual-head, despite config hacking, however that is a discussion for elsewhere) XFree86 4.5.0 under NetBSD works just fine with every Radeon on this list. Hence, I'm left to conclude that it's a combination of Xorg and FreeBSD - Windows works, NetBSD works, Linux works. I've tried both 5.3-RELEASE and 5.4-RELEASE, both of them die just as well. I *REALLY* want to get rid of windows on machine #2/#3, but it's simply not an option without a usable dual-headed desktop setup, as that is my work machine. However, if I can't even get xorgcfg to run without the machine needing a three finger salute, it's simply out of the question. I can't run NetBSD or OpenBSD on it, because I need something that I can deploy quickly, with up-to-date binary packages, something that neither NetBSD nor OpenBSD provide. Does anyone have any insights to this problem? Please respond directly, I am not subscribed to either freebsd-ia32 or freebsd-questions. TIA, -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have an nforce chipset on the motherboard? I do and I have never had any version of x to work with dri on a radeon. So disable dri if it is on and try again. No. Both motherboards are VIA chipsets, one is an ASUS and one is an ASRock. (although I've been told that ASRock is a low-budget division of ASUS, dunno whether that's true or not.) Also are you getting any error messages? You can check /var/run for the x logs from the last running of x. Nope. Just locks the machine. Does x lock after the startx command, or randomly later on while you are using x? It locks as soon as the X server starts. I can start it with X -configure, xorgcfg, or just plain `X', it doesn't matter - as soon as it starts trying to initialize the display, it locks up. -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg Radeon cards
Do you have an nforce chipset on the motherboard? I do and I have never had any version of x to work with dri on a radeon. So disable dri if it is on and try again. No. Both motherboards are VIA chipsets, one is an ASUS and one is an ASRock. (although I've been told that ASRock is a low-budget division of ASUS, dunno whether that's true or not.) Also are you getting any error messages? You can check /var/run for the x logs from the last running of x. Nope. Just locks the machine. Does x lock after the startx command, or randomly later on while you are using x? It locks as soon as the X server starts. I can start it with X -configure, xorgcfg, or just plain `X', it doesn't matter - as soon as it starts trying to initialize the display, it locks up. -Sean Sounds like a driver problem. Are you loading dri. Post a copy of xorg.conf. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg Radeon cards
Hello, first let me enumerate the hardware I've seen this happen on: 1) Athlon XP 2700+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 9200 AGP8X w/ 128MB 2) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 7000 AGP4X w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB 3) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 NVidia GeForce4 AGP8X (I think) w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB RAM On machine #2 (which is also machine #3), I'm trying to do a dual-head setup. Currently the primary video card is an AGP Geforce4. But that doesn't seem to matter. On all of these setups (9200, 7000, 7500) xorgcfg hardlocks the machine. No matter what I do. Xorg works just fine in Linux on the same hardware. (but no dual-head, despite config hacking, however that is a discussion for elsewhere) XFree86 4.5.0 under NetBSD works just fine with every Radeon on this list. Hence, I'm left to conclude that it's a combination of Xorg and FreeBSD - Windows works, NetBSD works, Linux works. I've tried both 5.3-RELEASE and 5.4-RELEASE, both of them die just as well. I *REALLY* want to get rid of windows on machine #2/#3, but it's simply not an option without a usable dual-headed desktop setup, as that is my work machine. However, if I can't even get xorgcfg to run without the machine needing a three finger salute, it's simply out of the question. I can't run NetBSD or OpenBSD on it, because I need something that I can deploy quickly, with up-to-date binary packages, something that neither NetBSD nor OpenBSD provide. Does anyone have any insights to this problem? Please respond directly, I am not subscribed to either freebsd-ia32 or freebsd-questions. TIA, -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg Radeon cards
Sean Davis wrote: Hello, first let me enumerate the hardware I've seen this happen on: 1) Athlon XP 2700+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 9200 AGP8X w/ 128MB 2) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 7000 AGP4X w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB 3) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 NVidia GeForce4 AGP8X (I think) w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB RAM On machine #2 (which is also machine #3), I'm trying to do a dual-head setup. Currently the primary video card is an AGP Geforce4. But that doesn't seem to matter. On all of these setups (9200, 7000, 7500) xorgcfg hardlocks the machine. No matter what I do. Xorg works just fine in Linux on the same hardware. (but no dual-head, despite config hacking, however that is a discussion for elsewhere) XFree86 4.5.0 under NetBSD works just fine with every Radeon on this list. Hence, I'm left to conclude that it's a combination of Xorg and FreeBSD - Windows works, NetBSD works, Linux works. I've tried both 5.3-RELEASE and 5.4-RELEASE, both of them die just as well. I *REALLY* want to get rid of windows on machine #2/#3, but it's simply not an option without a usable dual-headed desktop setup, as that is my work machine. However, if I can't even get xorgcfg to run without the machine needing a three finger salute, it's simply out of the question. I can't run NetBSD or OpenBSD on it, because I need something that I can deploy quickly, with up-to-date binary packages, something that neither NetBSD nor OpenBSD provide. Does anyone have any insights to this problem? Please respond directly, I am not subscribed to either freebsd-ia32 or freebsd-questions. TIA, -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have an nforce chipset on the motherboard? I do and I have never had any version of x to work with dri on a radeon. So disable dri if it is on and try again. Also are you getting any error messages? You can check /var/run for the x logs from the last running of x. Does x lock after the startx command, or randomly later on while you are using x? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
I just got a Sempron 754, will it run under FreeBSD 4.11 i386? I don't have time to reinstall the OS, so if the 754 doesn't run on i386 i'll swop the chip for a socket A. ... or will the 754 be substantially quicker that the equivalent speed Socket A? The machine is being used as a development server. Thanks for your advice Gareth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Gareth Bailey wrote: I just got a Sempron 754, will it run under FreeBSD 4.11 i386? Yes, sure I don't have time to reinstall the OS, so if the 754 doesn't run on i386 i'll swop the chip for a socket A. ... or will the 754 be substantially quicker that the equivalent speed Socket A? Not really, no The machine is being used as a development server. Thanks for your advice Gareth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Thanks Gareth I think you forgot to cc this message to freebsd-questions. Anyways, to further comment on these issues: Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit instruction sets (i686 in terms of CPUTYPE and i386 in terms of MACHINE). Any x86 OS will run on Sempron/754 smoothly. Personally, I think it's a much better choice than Celeron D. Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Thanks for the info Andrew. Much appreciated, Gareth On Apr 4, 2005 3:33 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Thanks Gareth I think you forgot to cc this message to freebsd-questions. Anyways, to further comment on these issues: Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit instruction sets (i686 in terms of CPUTYPE and i386 in terms of MACHINE). Any x86 OS will run on Sempron/754 smoothly. Personally, I think it's a much better choice than Celeron D. Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
On Apr 4, 2005 3:33 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Thanks Gareth I think you forgot to cc this message to freebsd-questions. Anyways, to further comment on these issues: Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. instruction sets (i686 in terms of CPUTYPE and i386 in terms of MACHINE). Any x86 OS will run on Sempron/754 smoothly. Personally, I think it's a much better choice than Celeron D. Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Even for Sempron? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 3:33 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. Yeah, it appears I got a wrong idea from some poor article. As a matter of fact, Sempron/sA is based on Barton core, while Sempron/s754 is a K8 sister. The latter has an on-chip memory controller and SSE2 instruction set supported. They are pretty same in all other aspects though, and I still suppose the perfomance margin is negligible. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11599_11604,00.html Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Even for Sempron? Yeah, it has been announced a few times, that Sempron/s939 will be available somewhen in 2005 as market requires: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_608,00.html Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
On Apr 4, 2005 6:13 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. Yeah, it appears I got a wrong idea from some poor article. As a matter of fact, Sempron/sA is based on Barton core, while Sempron/s754 is a K8 sister. The latter has an on-chip memory controller and SSE2 instruction set supported. They are pretty same in all other aspects though, and I still suppose the perfomance margin is negligible. Why do you expect so much performance to be lost compared to the Athlon 64 s754? The Athlon 64 s754 is significantly faster than the Athlon XP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 6:13 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. Yeah, it appears I got a wrong idea from some poor article. As a matter of fact, Sempron/sA is based on Barton core, while Sempron/s754 is a K8 sister. The latter has an on-chip memory controller and SSE2 instruction set supported. They are pretty same in all other aspects though, and I still suppose the perfomance margin is negligible. Why do you expect so much performance to be lost compared to the Athlon 64 s754? The Athlon 64 s754 is significantly faster than the Athlon XP. I haven't seen any tests, yet I've seen Sempron/Socket-A in action and it was impressive. I also have Athlon 64 and Athlon XP pc's at home and I don't think K8 is so superior. In non-sse2 non-very-memory-intensive applications it performs better, but not turbo-charged. Besides, AMD is pricing Socket-A Semprons even higher than s754 versions. Considering the fact that s754 is clocked lower than sA of the same PR, it can be hard to determine the speed difference. Anyway, I really think there's nothing for us to argue about :) Gareth is staying with s754 and we should be glad for him :) Very best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
Topic: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines Category: core Module: smp Announced: 2005-01-16 Credits:Stephan Uphoff, Xin LI Affects:FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Corrected: 2005-01-16 08:29:14 UTC ..I just got this today and was wondering...since I follow 5.3-STABLE how come my files are not up-to-date with at least respect to this bug? I checked the files required and mine are quite older...even after a cvsup. The cvsup I am using is: *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files? Thanks guys- -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
J.D. Bronson wrote: Topic: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines Category: core Module: smp Announced: 2005-01-16 Credits:Stephan Uphoff, Xin LI Affects:FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Corrected: 2005-01-16 08:29:14 UTC ..I just got this today and was wondering...since I follow 5.3-STABLE how come my files are not up-to-date with at least respect to this bug? I checked the files required and mine are quite older...even after a cvsup. *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files? It takes some time before all mirrors are updated. Try again later or try a different mirror. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
At 08:12 AM 01/17/2005, Erik Norgaard wrote: J.D. Bronson wrote: Topic: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines Category: core Module: smp Announced: 2005-01-16 Credits:Stephan Uphoff, Xin LI Affects:FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Corrected: 2005-01-16 08:29:14 UTC ..I just got this today and was wondering...since I follow 5.3-STABLE how come my files are not up-to-date with at least respect to this bug? I checked the files required and mine are quite older...even after a cvsup. *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files? It takes some time before all mirrors are updated. Try again later or try a different mirror. Cheers, Erik I tried all the mirrors...still no luck. Should I be grabbing these in the manner of my tracking? *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 Thanks! -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
J.D. Bronson wrote: It takes some time before all mirrors are updated. Try again later or try a different mirror. I tried all the mirrors...still no luck. Should I be grabbing these in the manner of my tracking? *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 In the announcement two methods for obtaining the updated files are described: 1) Upgrade your affected system to the RELENG_5_3 errata branch dated after the correction date using cvsup(1) or cvs(1). This is the preferred method. For information on how to use cvsup(1) to update your source code see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html 2) Obtain the updated files using the cvsweb interface. Cvsweb is a Web interface to the CVS repository. The URL to the general interface is http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/;. You can obtain any of the source files for the RELENG_5_3 branch by going to the src directory (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src;) and then selecting the RELENG_5_3 branch tag. With the branch tag set navigate to the files listed below in the Correction details section and download them, making sure you get the correct revision numbers. Copy the downloaded files into your /usr/src tree. Seems like you should have tag=RELENG_5_3. If you are on RELENG_5, then the patches may have made it into your source before the notice, maybe check the source: RevisionChangesPath 1.342.2.13.2.8 +4 -0 src/UPDATING 1.62.2.15.2.10 +1 -1 src/sys/conf/newvers.sh 1.101.4.1 +2 -50 src/sys/i386/i386/apic_vector.s 1.235.2.3.2.1 +65 -37src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c 1.8.4.1 +42 -9 src/sys/i386/include/apicvar.h 1.78.4.1+2 -5 src/sys/i386/include/smp.h cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 06:18:46AM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote: Topic: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines Category: core Module: smp Announced: 2005-01-16 Credits:Stephan Uphoff, Xin LI Affects:FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE Corrected: 2005-01-16 08:29:14 UTC ..I just got this today and was wondering...since I follow 5.3-STABLE how come my files are not up-to-date with at least respect to this bug? I checked the files required and mine are quite older...even after a cvsup. The cvsup I am using is: *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files? You did, weeks ago. Kris pgpb7iZNJ4ep6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
At 01:08 PM 01/17/2005, you wrote: The cvsup I am using is: *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files? You did, weeks ago. Thats what I had thought. But the version numbers are much older than the ones in the announcement. Once I changed the tag from tag=RELENG_5 to tag=RELENG_5_3 then and only then did I get the correct files. Prior to that, I tried to delete /var/db/sup and then even /usr/src and still I was not seeing the updated files. I have no idea why, but I am glad that I have things working now. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 01:32:10PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote: At 01:08 PM 01/17/2005, you wrote: The cvsup I am using is: *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files? You did, weeks ago. Thats what I had thought. But the version numbers are much older than the ones in the announcement. Once I changed the tag from tag=RELENG_5 to tag=RELENG_5_3 then and only then did I get the correct files. Prior to that, I tried to delete /var/db/sup and then even /usr/src and still I was not seeing the updated files. I have no idea why, but I am glad that I have things working now. The errata notice is for users of 5.3-RELEASE and not users of 5.3-STABLE. Users of -STABLE branches are expected to monitor the CVS commit logs if they're interested in merges of particular bug fixes. Kris pgpiNl0MjTf7S.pgp Description: PGP signature
installing freebsd i386 om my pentium 4!
Question!!! When i want to install freebsd from cd my system reboots or shuts down, what is the problem? I have a pentium 4. Greatz Pascal ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
