Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar

if you won't find it just get your 4.11 install CD
make some dir temporary on a disk
then

cat /path_to_base_distribution_dir/base.??|tar xpf -

and look and move needed files to /usr/local/lib/compat



On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Jon Drukman wrote:


On 8/28/07, Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Have you tried the compat4 port:

   /usr/ports/misc/compat4x



thanks!  that got me past one error, now i'm stuck on libcrypt.so.2

is there a port for libcrypt compat?  (i didn't find anything obvious by
searching on *compat* or *crypt*)

-jsd-
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar

cd /usr/ports/misc/compat4x
make install clean



On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Jon Drukman wrote:

I just installed FBSD 6.2, but I have a requirement to use some precompiled 
binaries from FreeBSD 4.11.  They are failing because libm.so.2 is not 
available.  Is there a compatibility package that I can install which will 
give me the older libraries?  I do not have the source code to recompile 
these applications.


-jsd-

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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 08:58:08PM -0500, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 August 2007 17:35:55 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 03:31:25PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
> > > It provides a temporary solution in some cases, when you need to get
> > > going.  It is not a long term solution.
> >
> > It's bogus because a) the real solution exists and is trivial (install
> > the relevant compat port), and b) your advice *will* break
> > applications.
> >
> > Shared library revision numbers are bumped for a good reason, of
> > course, namely because there are changes made that break backwards
> > compatibility.
> >
> > Kris
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> 
> it would be interesting to know what kinds of apps break from doing this... i 
> link 6 things to get my netbackup agent working, and so far everything works 
> like clockwork.
> 
> i remember back in tredhat fedora, i learned this behavior because i want to 
> remember, that tons of libs were always linked by default.  once i moved to 
> freebsd, i really didnt think anything of it, because i was always told that 
> these types of things were backwards compatible, and they were symlinked 
> specifically because of this (ie, it was intended by the distro provider, 
> becuase some app they included was asking for an older revision of a lib).  
> ive not looked at a linux in about 2 years, but i want to say it was so 
> common as to be "normal" to see linked libs.

It's not normal in FreeBSD.  Library versions are only changed when
there is an incompatible change that means the new library *CANNOT* be
used with certain old binaries.  While you may be able to sometimes
get away with running certain applications (or certain parts of
applications) that do not interact with the incompatible changes, it
is never a safe thing to do.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 17:35:55 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 03:31:25PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
> > It provides a temporary solution in some cases, when you need to get
> > going.  It is not a long term solution.
>
> It's bogus because a) the real solution exists and is trivial (install
> the relevant compat port), and b) your advice *will* break
> applications.
>
> Shared library revision numbers are bumped for a good reason, of
> course, namely because there are changes made that break backwards
> compatibility.
>
> Kris
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it would be interesting to know what kinds of apps break from doing this... i 
link 6 things to get my netbackup agent working, and so far everything works 
like clockwork.

i remember back in tredhat fedora, i learned this behavior because i want to 
remember, that tons of libs were always linked by default.  once i moved to 
freebsd, i really didnt think anything of it, because i was always told that 
these types of things were backwards compatible, and they were symlinked 
specifically because of this (ie, it was intended by the distro provider, 
becuase some app they included was asking for an older revision of a lib).  
ive not looked at a linux in about 2 years, but i want to say it was so 
common as to be "normal" to see linked libs.

anyway... /ramble.

cheers,

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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 03:31:25PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
> It provides a temporary solution in some cases, when you need to get
> going.  It is not a long term solution.

It's bogus because a) the real solution exists and is trivial (install
the relevant compat port), and b) your advice *will* break
applications.

Shared library revision numbers are bumped for a good reason, of
course, namely because there are changes made that break backwards
compatibility.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas D. Dean
It provides a temporary solution in some cases, when you need to get
going.  It is not a long term solution.

tomdean
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 03:13:04PM -0700, Jeff Mohler wrote:
> On 8/28/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:52:51PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
> > > Have you tried linking libm.so to libm.so.2?
> >
> > Sorry, but that's really bogus advice.
> >
> > Kris
> 
> 
> It would work for MacGuyver or the A-Team...

:)

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:23:42PM -0700, Jon Drukman wrote:
> On 8/28/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Have you tried the compat4 port:
> > > >/usr/ports/misc/compat4x
> > >
> > > thanks!  that got me past one error, now i'm stuck on libcrypt.so.2
> > >
> > > is there a port for libcrypt compat?  (i didn't find anything obvious by
> > > searching on *compat* or *crypt*)
> >
> > It's part of the same freebsd compat ports.
> 
> 
> It's not in compat4x.  On a whim I tried installing compat5x and that
> provided the missing library.
> 
> thanks
> -jsd-

It *IS* in compat4x, but not installed by default due to vulnerabilities in
OpenSSL, you get more info by issuing `make FORCE_VULNERABLE_OPENSSL=yes` in
compat4x's dir. And if you are absolutelly sure that you can live with it, you
can force installation of vulnerable libs - please read ports(7) manpage to find
out how to do it (just a safety measure on my part :-).


HTH,
Yuri
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Jeff Mohler
On 8/28/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:52:51PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
> > Have you tried linking libm.so to libm.so.2?
>
> Sorry, but that's really bogus advice.
>
> Kris


It would work for MacGuyver or the A-Team...
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:52:51PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
> Have you tried linking libm.so to libm.so.2?

Sorry, but that's really bogus advice.

Kris

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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:23:42PM -0700, Jon Drukman wrote:
> On 8/28/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Have you tried the compat4 port:
> > > >/usr/ports/misc/compat4x
> > >
> > > thanks!  that got me past one error, now i'm stuck on libcrypt.so.2
> > >
> > > is there a port for libcrypt compat?  (i didn't find anything obvious by
> > > searching on *compat* or *crypt*)
> >
> > It's part of the same freebsd compat ports.
> 
> 
> It's not in compat4x.  On a whim I tried installing compat5x and that
> provided the missing library.

Sounds right, although what the binary is doing is not correct and in
principle it may not work properly.  If you have run it before then it
will continue to work as well as it ever did though.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Jon Drukman
On 8/28/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Have you tried the compat4 port:
> > >/usr/ports/misc/compat4x
> >
> > thanks!  that got me past one error, now i'm stuck on libcrypt.so.2
> >
> > is there a port for libcrypt compat?  (i didn't find anything obvious by
> > searching on *compat* or *crypt*)
>
> It's part of the same freebsd compat ports.


It's not in compat4x.  On a whim I tried installing compat5x and that
provided the missing library.

thanks
-jsd-
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas D. Dean
Have you tried linking libm.so to libm.so.2?

tomdean
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:41:34PM -0700, Jon Drukman wrote:
> On 8/28/07, Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried the compat4 port:
> >
> >/usr/ports/misc/compat4x
> 
> 
> thanks!  that got me past one error, now i'm stuck on libcrypt.so.2
> 
> is there a port for libcrypt compat?  (i didn't find anything obvious by
> searching on *compat* or *crypt*)

It's part of the same freebsd compat ports.

Kris

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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Jon Drukman
On 8/28/07, Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Have you tried the compat4 port:
>
>/usr/ports/misc/compat4x


thanks!  that got me past one error, now i'm stuck on libcrypt.so.2

is there a port for libcrypt compat?  (i didn't find anything obvious by
searching on *compat* or *crypt*)

-jsd-
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FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Jon Drukman
 I just installed FBSD 6.2, but I have a requirement to use some precompiled
binaries from FreeBSD 4.11.  They are failing because libm.so.2 is not
available.  Is there a compatibility package that I can install which will
give me the older libraries?  I do not have the source code to recompile
these applications.

-jsd-
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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Duane Hill

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 at 12:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:

I just installed FBSD 6.2, but I have a requirement to use some precompiled 
binaries from FreeBSD 4.11.  They are failing because libm.so.2 is not 
available.  Is there a compatibility package that I can install which will 
give me the older libraries?  I do not have the source code to recompile 
these applications.


Have you tried the compat4 port:

  /usr/ports/misc/compat4x

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Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 12:50:34PM -0700, Jon Drukman wrote:
> I just installed FBSD 6.2, but I have a requirement to use some precompiled 
> binaries from FreeBSD 4.11.  They are failing because libm.so.2 is not 
> available.  Is there a compatibility package that I can install which will 
> give me the older libraries?  I do not have the source code to recompile 
> these applications.
>
> -jsd-

/usr/ports/misc/compat4x


HTH,
Yuri
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FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)

2007-08-28 Thread Jon Drukman
I just installed FBSD 6.2, but I have a requirement to use some 
precompiled binaries from FreeBSD 4.11.  They are failing because 
libm.so.2 is not available.  Is there a compatibility package that I can 
install which will give me the older libraries?  I do not have the 
source code to recompile these applications.


-jsd-

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