RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar

sorry but i have now idea now completely.

i set LANG=C for login class in which root belongs and other class 
where user belongs - the user i do ftp to.


still i've got dates in Polish?

why?


On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote:



This was the stock FTP server in 6.3-release

Unless I can duplicate the problem I can't help any
further.

Ted



so any clue what can i have wrong as our setup is (in theory) identical?

does LANG=pl influence ftpd anyhow? (i have it in login.conf)
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:40 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients
 
 
 
  This was the stock FTP server in 6.3-release
 
  Unless I can duplicate the problem I can't help any
  further.
 
  Ted
 
 
 so any clue what can i have wrong as our setup is (in theory) identical?
 
 does LANG=pl influence ftpd anyhow? (i have it in login.conf)

No clue.  I'm running US English on both the server and web
browser, it could be that.

Ted
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

continued

see

http://www.sharktime.com/private/ftp/

how internet sexplorer and other browsers (all screens from windows)
get listing.

in inetd.conf i have

ftp stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/libexec/ftpd   ftpd -l



any ideas? it worked some time ago when i had 6.2. really nothing changed?

or maybe something else to check?
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:50 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients
 
 
  I cut some of the directory listing so as not to consume
  a lot of space - the spaces are different because some of
  the listing had files in it that were larger, and the
  program merely added the spaces so the columns would
  line up.  (you will note the total at the bottom didn't
  add up)
 
  Do you have the total client list of clients that
  are having problems?
 
 
 unix mozilla, windoze internet exploder.
 

I really hate to tell you this but I just tested this with
one of my 6.3-RELEASE servers, and with IE6, and I have no
problem displaying files.

I don't have the other clients loaded (at least not here)
I'll see if I can test them tomorrow.

The URL I used in IE was:

ftp://tedm:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(obviously you would substitute the appropriate user ID,
password and server)

This was the stock FTP server in 6.3-release

Unless I can duplicate the problem I can't help any
further.

Ted
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar


This was the stock FTP server in 6.3-release

Unless I can duplicate the problem I can't help any
further.

Ted



so any clue what can i have wrong as our setup is (in theory) identical?

does LANG=pl influence ftpd anyhow? (i have it in login.conf)
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:10 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients
 
 
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  767 Feb 22 20:11 .cshrc
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  248 Feb 22 20:11 .login
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  158 Feb 22 20:11 .login_conf
  -rw---  1 tedm  staff  373 Feb 22 20:11 .mail_aliases
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  331 Feb 22 20:11 .mailrc
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  797 Feb 22 20:11 .profile
  -rw---  1 tedm  staff  276 Feb 22 20:11 .rhosts
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  975 Feb 22 20:11 .shrc
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff767 Jan 24  2007 .cshrc
  -rw---  1 tedm  staff 35 Feb 26 14:18 .lesshst
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff248 Jan 24  2007 .login
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff158 Jan 24  2007 .login_conf
  -rw---  1 tedm  staff373 Jan 24  2007 .mail_aliases
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff331 Jan 24  2007 .mailrc
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff805 Apr 11  2007 .profile
  -rw---  1 tedm  staff276 Jan 24  2007 .rhosts
  -rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff975 Jan 24  2007 .shrc
  drwx--  2 tedm  staff512 Feb  1 23:52 .ssh
  See the difference?  There ISN'T any.  It's the same
  program.
 
 
 there are different amount spaces. it could be a problem for them.
 

I cut some of the directory listing so as not to consume
a lot of space - the spaces are different because some of
the listing had files in it that were larger, and the
program merely added the spaces so the columns would
line up.  (you will note the total at the bottom didn't
add up)

Do you have the total client list of clients that
are having problems?

Ted
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  767 Feb 22 20:11 .cshrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  248 Feb 22 20:11 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  158 Feb 22 20:11 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  373 Feb 22 20:11 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  331 Feb 22 20:11 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  797 Feb 22 20:11 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  276 Feb 22 20:11 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  975 Feb 22 20:11 .shrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff767 Jan 24  2007 .cshrc
-rw---  1 tedm  staff 35 Feb 26 14:18 .lesshst
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff248 Jan 24  2007 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff158 Jan 24  2007 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff373 Jan 24  2007 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff331 Jan 24  2007 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff805 Apr 11  2007 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff276 Jan 24  2007 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff975 Jan 24  2007 .shrc
drwx--  2 tedm  staff512 Feb  1 23:52 .ssh
See the difference?  There ISN'T any.  It's the same
program.



there are different amount spaces. it could be a problem for them.


Likely he just made a mistake and selected lukeftpd in
the inetd.conf file rather than the normal ftpd.


no

ftp stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/libexec/ftpd   ftpd -l
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l /usr/libexec/ftpd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  97656 24 lut 11:59 /usr/libexec/ftpd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l /usr/libexec/lukemftpd
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  128488 24 lut 11:59 /usr/libexec/lukemftpd





He would also need to select the passive switch in the
client, not the server, with whatever radio button
it uses.


i don't know what's radio button it is ;) i don't use such clients. others 
use

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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

same with unix opera, shows empty directory.

there is no nat in between, so both passive and active should work


On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:10 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients



-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  767 Feb 22 20:11 .cshrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  248 Feb 22 20:11 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  158 Feb 22 20:11 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  373 Feb 22 20:11 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  331 Feb 22 20:11 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  797 Feb 22 20:11 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  276 Feb 22 20:11 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  975 Feb 22 20:11 .shrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff767 Jan 24  2007 .cshrc
-rw---  1 tedm  staff 35 Feb 26 14:18 .lesshst
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff248 Jan 24  2007 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff158 Jan 24  2007 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff373 Jan 24  2007 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff331 Jan 24  2007 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff805 Apr 11  2007 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff276 Jan 24  2007 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff975 Jan 24  2007 .shrc
drwx--  2 tedm  staff512 Feb  1 23:52 .ssh
See the difference?  There ISN'T any.  It's the same
program.



there are different amount spaces. it could be a problem for them.



I cut some of the directory listing so as not to consume
a lot of space - the spaces are different because some of
the listing had files in it that were larger, and the
program merely added the spaces so the columns would
line up.  (you will note the total at the bottom didn't
add up)

Do you have the total client list of clients that
are having problems?

Ted
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Re: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Doug Hardie


On Feb 26, 2008, at 23:43, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Hardie
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:12 PM
To: Wojciech Puchar
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients



On Feb 26, 2008, at 22:58, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


is ftpd changed compared to 6.2?
all normal clients (like classic ftp, lftp) works fine, unix mozilla
ftp client, and few winftp clients shows empty catalog.

i know that's crappy clients, but worked with 6.2 (i think ;)

any solution? (except the best - changing to working clients)


You might try using the PASSIV switch.


That could be it, but I really doubt it, here's the output
from 2 different systems I have, one running 6.2 the other 6.3:

C:\Documents and Settings\tedmftp XXX.XXX.XXX
Connected to XXX.XXX.XXX.
220 XXX.XXX.XXX FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready.
User (XXX.XXX.XXX:(none)): tedm
331 Password required for tedm.
Password:
230 User tedm logged in.
ftp dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
total 16
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  767 Feb 22 20:11 .cshrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  248 Feb 22 20:11 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  158 Feb 22 20:11 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  373 Feb 22 20:11 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  331 Feb 22 20:11 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  797 Feb 22 20:11 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  276 Feb 22 20:11 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  975 Feb 22 20:11 .shrc
226 Transfer complete.
ftp: 441 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 441000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp

C:\Documents and Settings\tedmftp YYY.YYY.YYY
Connected to YYY.YYY.YYY.
220 YYY.YYY.YYY FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready.
User (YYY.YYY.YYY:(none)): tedm
331 Password required for tedm.
Password:
230 User tedm logged in.
ftp dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
total 760344
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff767 Jan 24  2007 .cshrc
-rw---  1 tedm  staff 35 Feb 26 14:18 .lesshst
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff248 Jan 24  2007 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff158 Jan 24  2007 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff373 Jan 24  2007 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff331 Jan 24  2007 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff805 Apr 11  2007 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff276 Jan 24  2007 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff975 Jan 24  2007 .shrc
drwx--  2 tedm  staff512 Feb  1 23:52 .ssh
226 Transfer complete.
ftp: 2350 bytes received in 0.30Seconds 7.81Kbytes/sec.
ftp

See the difference?  There ISN'T any.  It's the same
program.

Likely he just made a mistake and selected lukeftpd in
the inetd.conf file rather than the normal ftpd.

He would also need to select the passive switch in the
client, not the server, with whatever radio button
it uses.

Ted



I guess my response wasn't as clear as I thought it was.  Ftp clients  
have a default for passive mode.  Some default to using it and others  
to having it off.  I have encountered ftp clients in the PC world that  
have problems with the default mode.  Often its because of a firewall  
issue somewhere along the line.  Changing that setting in the client  
by using the PASSIV command often works for me.

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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I cut some of the directory listing so as not to consume
a lot of space - the spaces are different because some of
the listing had files in it that were larger, and the
program merely added the spaces so the columns would
line up.  (you will note the total at the bottom didn't
add up)

Do you have the total client list of clients that
are having problems?



unix mozilla, windoze internet exploder.

i know it's not freebsd fault, just asked what could make that problem
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

even more strange when trying to go through squid proxy:

An FTP authentication failure occurred while trying to retrieve the URL: 
ftp://.../

Squid sent the following FTP command:
PASS yourpassword
and then received this reply
Can't change root.
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Re: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I guess my response wasn't as clear as I thought it was.  Ftp clients have a 
default for passive mode.  Some default to using it and others to having it 
off.  I have encountered ftp clients in the PC world that have problems with 
the default mode.  Often its because of a firewall issue somewhere along the 
line.  Changing that setting in the client by using the PASSIV command often 
works for me.



there is no nat and firewall in between.
and i tried unix ftp client with passive off and on - both works.
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FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar

is ftpd changed compared to 6.2?
all normal clients (like classic ftp, lftp) works fine, unix mozilla ftp 
client, and few winftp clients shows empty catalog.


i know that's crappy clients, but worked with 6.2 (i think ;)

any solution? (except the best - changing to working clients)

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Re: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-26 Thread Doug Hardie


On Feb 26, 2008, at 22:58, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


is ftpd changed compared to 6.2?
all normal clients (like classic ftp, lftp) works fine, unix mozilla  
ftp client, and few winftp clients shows empty catalog.


i know that's crappy clients, but worked with 6.2 (i think ;)

any solution? (except the best - changing to working clients)


You might try using the PASSIV switch.
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RE: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients

2008-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Hardie
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:12 PM
 To: Wojciech Puchar
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3, ftpd and crappy clients
 
 
 
 On Feb 26, 2008, at 22:58, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
  is ftpd changed compared to 6.2?
  all normal clients (like classic ftp, lftp) works fine, unix mozilla  
  ftp client, and few winftp clients shows empty catalog.
 
  i know that's crappy clients, but worked with 6.2 (i think ;)
 
  any solution? (except the best - changing to working clients)
 
 You might try using the PASSIV switch.

That could be it, but I really doubt it, here's the output
from 2 different systems I have, one running 6.2 the other 6.3:

C:\Documents and Settings\tedmftp XXX.XXX.XXX
Connected to XXX.XXX.XXX.
220 XXX.XXX.XXX FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready.
User (XXX.XXX.XXX:(none)): tedm
331 Password required for tedm.
Password:
230 User tedm logged in.
ftp dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
total 16
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  767 Feb 22 20:11 .cshrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  248 Feb 22 20:11 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  158 Feb 22 20:11 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  373 Feb 22 20:11 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  331 Feb 22 20:11 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  797 Feb 22 20:11 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff  276 Feb 22 20:11 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff  975 Feb 22 20:11 .shrc
226 Transfer complete.
ftp: 441 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 441000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp

C:\Documents and Settings\tedmftp YYY.YYY.YYY
Connected to YYY.YYY.YYY.
220 YYY.YYY.YYY FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready.
User (YYY.YYY.YYY:(none)): tedm
331 Password required for tedm.
Password:
230 User tedm logged in.
ftp dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
total 760344
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff767 Jan 24  2007 .cshrc
-rw---  1 tedm  staff 35 Feb 26 14:18 .lesshst
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff248 Jan 24  2007 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff158 Jan 24  2007 .login_conf
-rw---  1 tedm  staff373 Jan 24  2007 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff331 Jan 24  2007 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff805 Apr 11  2007 .profile
-rw---  1 tedm  staff276 Jan 24  2007 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 tedm  staff975 Jan 24  2007 .shrc
drwx--  2 tedm  staff512 Feb  1 23:52 .ssh
226 Transfer complete.
ftp: 2350 bytes received in 0.30Seconds 7.81Kbytes/sec.
ftp

See the difference?  There ISN'T any.  It's the same
program.

Likely he just made a mistake and selected lukeftpd in
the inetd.conf file rather than the normal ftpd.

He would also need to select the passive switch in the
client, not the server, with whatever radio button
it uses.

Ted



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