Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 17:04:37 schrieb icantthinkofone: Ivan Voras wrote: icantthinkofone wrote: Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't know anything about it and would love to respond. [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify memory cache. For that reason MS has the beautiful MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a better answer if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I thought but not sure if they were equivalent. I'm not signed up over there but I will now. Thanks. That's not entirely true. MmAllocateContiguousMemorySpecifyCache does something that's currently not (easily) possible with FreeBSD, namely set up an MTRR entry (i.e. a specific caching state) specifically for the portion of contiguous memory being allocated (normally, the driver wants to set the memory to uncached if using this call). This is something that the NVIDIA driver development guys have wanted to have for a long time (for performance reasons) in the FreeBSD kernel, and there's someone developing a patch to implement this (AFAICT from reading some websites), but it doesn't seem like it's finished so far. Read up on the NVIDIA requirements to develop an accelerated graphics driver on AMD64 to get more details on this (there's a "workaround" on i386, but that depends on the specific system's pre-setup MTRR records from the BIOS; this one of the reasons there's an accelerated graphics driver for i386 and not for AMD64). I thought that might be the case. (I did ask about this on 'hackers'). Is it possible Nvidia is trying to make FreeBSD work like Windows, in a sense? iow, they used this function in their driver and now everyone has to use it? Or is this really a fault of FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation
Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 17:04:37 schrieb icantthinkofone: > Ivan Voras wrote: > > icantthinkofone wrote: > >> Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't > >> know anything about it and would love to respond. > >> [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to > >> set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify > >> memory cache. > >> > >> For that reason MS has the beautiful > >> MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] > > > > Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a > > better answer if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > That's what I thought but not sure if they were equivalent. > I'm not signed up over there but I will now. Thanks. That's not entirely true. MmAllocateContiguousMemorySpecifyCache does something that's currently not (easily) possible with FreeBSD, namely set up an MTRR entry (i.e. a specific caching state) specifically for the portion of contiguous memory being allocated (normally, the driver wants to set the memory to uncached if using this call). This is something that the NVIDIA driver development guys have wanted to have for a long time (for performance reasons) in the FreeBSD kernel, and there's someone developing a patch to implement this (AFAICT from reading some websites), but it doesn't seem like it's finished so far. Read up on the NVIDIA requirements to develop an accelerated graphics driver on AMD64 to get more details on this (there's a "workaround" on i386, but that depends on the specific system's pre-setup MTRR records from the BIOS; this one of the reasons there's an accelerated graphics driver for i386 and not for AMD64). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation
Ivan Voras wrote: icantthinkofone wrote: Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't know anything about it and would love to respond. [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify memory cache. For that reason MS has the beautiful MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a better answer if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" That's what I thought but not sure if they were equivalent. I'm not signed up over there but I will now. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation
icantthinkofone wrote: > Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't > know anything about it and would love to respond. > [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to > set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify > memory cache. > > For that reason MS has the beautiful > MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a better answer if you ask this question on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD cache memory allocation
Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't know anything about it and would love to respond. [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify memory cache. For that reason MS has the beautiful MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
