Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
On Friday 19 September 2008 12:17:35 Oliver Fromme wrote: Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: Mel wrote: that's aside from the fact that the root partition '/' always has to be the first partition, for the simple reason that everything else is mounted on top of it. It's not the partition device names that determine the mount order, but the order of the entries in /etc/fstab. Actually not even the order in /etc/fstab matters. You can place the root file system last and it will still work. Uhm, just to be sure: We are talking about the *root* file system here. Of course, the order of the *remaining* file systems in /etc/fstab (without noauto flag) *does* matter, because this is the order in which they are mounted by the RC scripts. Only the root file system is special. Yeah, I was too short in previous reply, but since sysinstall both picks partition name and writes /etc/fstab the end result for the user is the same. First do root, then the rest and don't create partitions that are supposed to be put on top of another partition, before creating that partition first. PS: BTW, Mel, your email address doesn't work. I get bounces from your mail server. I know, still been too lazy to implement whitelisting, so anything not .freebsd.org at RCPT TO: is bounced. Maybe this time the post-it will stick to my monitor ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
Matthew Seaman wrote: Mel wrote: that's aside from the fact that the root partition '/' always has to be the first partition, for the simple reason that everything else is mounted on top of it. It's not the partition device names that determine the mount order, but the order of the entries in /etc/fstab. Actually not even the order in /etc/fstab matters. You can place the root file system last and it will still work. The important thing is that the root file system must be partition a in the label, because this is hardcoded in the boot loader (and probably in a few other places, too). The boot loader then hands the location of the root file system to the kernel. (However, it is possible to override it, so in fact you can have a root file system different from the file system containing /boot. This is how booting with rootfs on ZFS works.) Later in the process, the /etc/rc script (and its children in /etc/rc.d/*) uses information from /etc/fstab to locate the root file system for fsck and to remount it read/write. Of course it is identified by its mountpoint (/), not by the position of the entry within /etc/fstab. So the order in /etc/fstab really doesn't matter. Just make sure that your root file system is partition a. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd In my experience the term transparent proxy is an oxymoron (like jumbo shrimp). Transparent proxies seem to vary from the distortions of a funhouse mirror to barely translucent. I really, really dislike them when trying to figure out the corrective lenses needed with each of them. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: Mel wrote: that's aside from the fact that the root partition '/' always has to be the first partition, for the simple reason that everything else is mounted on top of it. It's not the partition device names that determine the mount order, but the order of the entries in /etc/fstab. Actually not even the order in /etc/fstab matters. You can place the root file system last and it will still work. Uhm, just to be sure: We are talking about the *root* file system here. Of course, the order of the *remaining* file systems in /etc/fstab (without noauto flag) *does* matter, because this is the order in which they are mounted by the RC scripts. Only the root file system is special. Best regards Oliver PS: BTW, Mel, your email address doesn't work. I get bounces from your mail server. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd People still program in C. People keep writing shell scripts. *Most* people don't realize the shortcomings of the tools they are using because they a) don't reflect on their workflows and they are b) too lazy to check out alternatives to realize there is help. -- Simon 'corecode' Schubert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD installation doesn't work
I'm trying to install freeBSD on my pc, but after the installation it doesn't boot. It can't find the kernel. I think it is the problem with my partitioning. i'm trying this order: /boot swap / /var /usr Can you help me how to install in this order? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
Robert Lebovich skrev: I'm trying to install freeBSD on my pc, but after the installation it doesn't boot. It can't find the kernel. I think it is the problem with my partitioning. i'm trying this order: /boot swap / /var /usr Can you help me how to install in this order? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you install the boot loader? Is the slice set for boot (active)? /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:32:09PM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: Robert Lebovich skrev: I'm trying to install freeBSD on my pc, but after the installation it doesn't boot. It can't find the kernel. I think it is the problem with my partitioning. i'm trying this order: /boot swap / /var /usr Can you help me how to install in this order? ___ Have you already tried the 'auto default' when creating the partitions? Any particular reason why you created a /boot ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:49:37PM +0300, Robert Lebovich wrote: I'm trying to install freeBSD on my pc, but after the installation it doesn't boot. It can't find the kernel. I think it is the problem with my partitioning. i'm trying this order: /boot swap / /var /usr Can you help me how to install in this order? Do not make a '/boot' partition separate from '/'. It won't work. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
On Thursday 18 September 2008 16:26:43 Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:49:37PM +0300, Robert Lebovich wrote: I'm trying to install freeBSD on my pc, but after the installation it doesn't boot. It can't find the kernel. I think it is the problem with my partitioning. i'm trying this order: /boot swap / /var /usr Can you help me how to install in this order? Do not make a '/boot' partition separate from '/'. It won't work. that's aside from the fact that the root partition '/' always has to be the first partition, for the simple reason that everything else is mounted on top of it. For the same reason: /dev/ad1se /usr/local /dev/ad1sf /usr will not work. For this particular case (root not first mount), sysinstall could be made smarter. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation doesn't work
Mel wrote: that's aside from the fact that the root partition '/' always has to be the first partition, for the simple reason that everything else is mounted on top of it. For the same reason: /dev/ad1se /usr/local /dev/ad1sf /usr will not work. For this particular case (root not first mount), sysinstall could be made smarter. It's not the partition device names that determine the mount order, but the order of the entries in /etc/fstab. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
