Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Carsten Mattner wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvpb08w4bjgucjb1ghvf-jgpzs0869qvxfryrtxef91...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? I don't know. I wrote how I obtained the data patern I saw, in my: Fair enough :). Message-id: 201207050936.q659awci016...@fire.js.berklix.net Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:36:32 +0200 Others very welcome to try it. Of course. Julian? Which Firefox version? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 I don't want to be that guy whos says it but that version is old and may contain widely known holes. Good point. ( Till now I I just built ports in current when odd ports from RELEASE broke, That's too simplistic, Thanks.) I am a little concerned. Me too ! Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. You don't have to export it at all. Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same file in /etc or ~/.ssh? If that's really the case, it's a problem. No I happily can not confirm that, despite a quick-ish look. ( I wouldn't particularly xpect it, if a trojan took control, it would be pretty easy to store data [hidden or scrambled] in different format.) The string I saw was in file jquery.js: /^(?:color|date|datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|text|time|url|week)$/i,bJ=/^(?:about|app|app\-storage Some machines have more valuable data in user files, than /etc/ passwords. If 'only' /etc/*passwd got harvested, but data beyond did not yet get harvested, waiting for a 2nd pass with trojan, damage would be less. I suggest others create a dummy guest account then accesss URL do page save as I wrote. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvpb08w4bjgucjb1ghvf-jgpzs0869qvxfryrtxef91...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? I don't know. I wrote how I obtained the data patern I saw, in my: Fair enough :). Message-id: 201207050936.q659awci016...@fire.js.berklix.net Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:36:32 +0200 Others very welcome to try it. Of course. Julian? Which Firefox version? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 I don't want to be that guy whos says it but that version is old and may contain widely known holes. I am a little concerned. Me too ! Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. You don't have to export it at all. Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same file in /etc or ~/.ssh? If that's really the case, it's a problem. I suggest others create a dummy guest account then accesss URL do page save as I wrote. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. You don't have to export it at all. Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same file in /etc or ~/.ssh? If that's really the case, it's a problem. the real problem is that not only better (not complicated and messy bloatware) browsers are unavailable, but WILL NOT BE available in any time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. You don't have to export it at all. Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same file in /etc or ~/.ssh? If that's really the case, it's a problem. the real problem is that not only better (not complicated and messy bloatware) browsers are unavailable, but WILL NOT BE available in any time. browsers are the new OS and should make use of chroot(), seccomp, systrace, jails, etc. chromium does a lot of that. Maybe I should think about using it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Carsten Mattner wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. Thats what shows with lynx Firefox shows some boring page beginnning - The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries grouped by project. No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with corrections/additions. Note also this list of Google's open source projects. Python Guido Van Rossum Python creator Alex Martelli Python Cookbook, ... Brett Cannon Python Jeremy Hylton Zope I'll skip the rest, Yawn. Firefox also runs some script. Doing a page save tar cf ends with a tar image containing datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te Where did you find that? Since when can Firefox read random files from disk via Javascript? I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail to it can't harvest ? I did suspect this is some kind of bot spam. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:41:27 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvoojrfi642bzd8ijoscgn1edv2m7w2+hm9v8i+a7ct...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Carsten Mattner wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. Thats what shows with lynx Firefox shows some boring page beginnning - The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries grouped by project. No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with corrections/additions. Note also this list of Google's open source projects. Python Guido Van Rossum Python creator Alex Martelli Python Cookbook, ... Brett Cannon Python Jeremy Hylton Zope I'll skip the rest, Yawn. Firefox also runs some script. Doing a page save tar cf ends with a tar image containing datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te Where did you find that? I clicked File save page presumably I left it at default Complete page Then I tarred up file directory then I inspected with vi. Since when can Firefox read random files from disk via Javascript? I don't know. I've just always had a reflex suspicion of bowsers that can run scripts. On my infinitely long mental list of things to look into some time ;-) I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail to it can't harvest ? I did suspect this is some kind of bot spam. Yup, the original question seemed too clueless. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:41:27 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvoojrfi642bzd8ijoscgn1edv2m7w2+hm9v8i+a7ct...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Carsten Mattner wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. Thats what shows with lynx Firefox shows some boring page beginnning - The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries grouped by project. No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with corrections/additions. Note also this list of Google's open source projects. Python Guido Van Rossum Python creator Alex Martelli Python Cookbook, ... Brett Cannon Python Jeremy Hylton Zope I'll skip the rest, Yawn. Firefox also runs some script. Doing a page save tar cf ends with a tar image containing datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te Where did you find that? I clicked File save page presumably I left it at default Complete page Then I tarred up file directory then I inspected with vi. does any of the files hash to the same as say passwd found in /etc? I doubt that. If it does this may be serious. Since when can Firefox read random files from disk via Javascript? I don't know. I've just always had a reflex suspicion of bowsers that can run scripts. On my infinitely long mental list of things to look into some time ;-) AFAIK you cannot do that with javascript. Otherwise people's ssh keys would have been stolen long ago. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html Same problem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html Same problem really stupid service. even more stupid than it's users! output DO DEPENDS on browser. i've saved it to HTML from firefox and now everything display it properly. Not sure if attachments are allowed, but i send gzipped HTML and attach here. 4kB should not hurt much. c3kw80dyq.html.gz Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html Same problem really stupid service. even more stupid than it's users! output DO DEPENDS on browser. i've saved it to HTML from firefox and now everything display it properly. Not sure if attachments are allowed, but i send gzipped HTML and attach here. 4kB should not hurt much. Thanks. Can anyone confirm Julian's password stealing script problem. I'm not concerned but cautios I'm missing something important security wise. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Thanks. Can anyone confirm Julian's password stealing script problem. no idea but probably everything is possible with current style of how web browsers work. As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Thanks. Can anyone confirm Julian's password stealing script problem. no idea but probably everything is possible with current style of how web browsers work. As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. From what version? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? Julian? Which Firefox version? I am a little concerned. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. From what version? http://people.mozilla.com/~tglek/velocity2012/ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/FileHandleAPI Planned as a supplement or replacement for IndexedDb it seems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: From: Carsten Mattner carstenmatt...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 Message-id: cacy+hvpb08w4bjgucjb1ghvf-jgpzs0869qvxfryrtxef91...@mail.gmail.com Carsten Mattner wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? I don't know. I wrote how I obtained the data patern I saw, in my: Message-id: 201207050936.q659awci016...@fire.js.berklix.net Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:36:32 +0200 Others very welcome to try it. Julian? Which Firefox version? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 I am a little concerned. Me too ! Not had tme to pursued it though. I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. I suggest others create a dummy guest account then accesss URL do page save as I wrote. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. From what version? http://people.mozilla.com/~tglek/velocity2012/ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/FileHandleAPI Planned as a supplement or replacement for IndexedDb it seems. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by FreeBSD? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/FreeBSD-vs-Hurd-what-is-the-differences-tp5724143.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On 04/07/2012 13:47, IamTrying wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? Yes, there are some FreeBSD developers who have gone to work for Google and have subsequently not been particularly active in the FreeBSD project. Same goes for Apple -- case in point being Jordan Hubbard, one time pretty much the leader of the FreeBSD project, now some incredibly important bod within Apple. It doesn't always happen that way round. Ben Laurie, for instance, had been working for Google for many years before becoming a FreeBSD committer. (Of course, his involvement with Apache and OpenSSL long pre-dated his joining Google.) Developers come and go, and always have done. It's the same for any reasonably long-lived open source project. Nothing new and nothing to be alarmed at. FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by FreeBSD? FreeBSD and Hurd are two completely different operating systems. As far as I know, Google has no particular interest in either of them, although it does support such projects in general through things like Summer of Code and sponsoring various collaborations. See for instance https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/ for a project with a great deal of involvement by both Google and FreeBSD developers. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: From: IamTrying iamtrying.t...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 05:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: 1341406026965-5724143.p...@n5.nabble.com IamTrying wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by FreeBSD? Additional to all the useful things Matthew wrote, I'd add: IamTrying could/should have read such Basic stuff on many webs/ search engines, inc Wikipedia. no need to ask here: More efficient for community if IamTrying read there. Less writing work, per more readers, more carefully researched cross checked linked facts etc. My memory: Hurd for many years was GNU/FSF's dream / vapourware OS, a few bits but not a complete OS (kernel, compiler, cd /usr/src ; make world ) most of us ignored it got on with BSD lcensed BSD code. Later Linux arrived, maybe a decade later Hurd finaly arrived as an OS no longer bits; most of us in BSD continued to ignore it. It's FSF, we in BSD prefer BSD licenced stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd GNU General Public License Minix3 exists too. Yup Minix isn't dead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix3 Mach exists or use to, various OSs if you're browsing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system Includes ref. to google chrome. Have fun reading :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? Is this Hurd now made for Google by FreeBSD? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/FreeBSD-vs-Hurd-what-is-the-differences-tp5724143.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Carsten Mattner wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually work. http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD core developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of FreeBSD and Google? single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of This page was viewed but no actual content. Thats what shows with lynx Firefox shows some boring page beginnning - The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source luminaries grouped by project. No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with corrections/additions. Note also this list of Google's open source projects. Python Guido Van Rossum Python creator Alex Martelli Python Cookbook, ... Brett Cannon Python Jeremy Hylton Zope I'll skip the rest, Yawn. Firefox also runs some script. Doing a page save tar cf ends with a tar image containing datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail to it can't harvest ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
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