Hardware booting problem

2011-09-15 Thread Doug Hardie
I encountered a situation today that I do not understand.  This is a very old 
i386 PC that does not have a usable CD drive.  The existing drive uses a very 
funky SCSI connector that I have nothing for.  The system disk is SCSI and 
there was one additional PATA drive used for additional storage.  The PATA 
drive failed.  It won't even stick around in /dev for more than a couple 
minutes after boot and there are lots of messages about bad sectors.  The data 
is completely backed up and the that drive is over 5 years old.

I removed the old drive and installed a new one.  System will not boot.  It 
hangs in the BIOS.  Never gets around to installing the SCSI BIOS.  My first 
guess was there was no boot sector on the SCSI drive.  That seems unusual since 
my other systems boot off the SCSI drives just fine.  This one used to also 
before I added the PATA drive.  However, if I put the dead drive back in along 
with the new one, then it boots.  This also implies that the boot sector was 
only on the PATA drive.  But the PATA drive is for all intents and purposes 
dead.  So how is it booting?  Is there any way to look into the SCSI drive and 
see if there is a boot sector there?

This is more a curiosity item as there are additional failures starting to 
occur in that computer.  We are going to replace it.  Its around 10 years old.

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Re: Hardware booting problem

2011-09-15 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:34 AM 9/15/2011, Doug Hardie wrote:
I encountered a situation today that I do not understand.  This is a very 
old i386 PC that does not have a usable CD drive.  The existing drive uses 
a very funky SCSI connector that I have nothing for.  The system disk is 
SCSI and there was one additional PATA drive used for additional 
storage.  The PATA drive failed.  It won't even stick around in /dev for 
more than a couple minutes after boot and there are lots of messages about 
bad sectors.  The data is completely backed up and the that drive is over 
5 years old.


I removed the old drive and installed a new one.  System will not 
boot.  It hangs in the BIOS.  Never gets around to installing the SCSI 
BIOS.  My first guess was there was no boot sector on the SCSI 
drive.  That seems unusual since my other systems boot off the SCSI drives 
just fine.  This one used to also before I added the PATA drive.  However, 
if I put the dead drive back in along with the new one, then it 
boots.  This also implies that the boot sector was only on the PATA 
drive.  But the PATA drive is for all intents and purposes dead.  So how 
is it booting?  Is there any way to look into the SCSI drive and see if 
there is a boot sector there?


This is more a curiosity item as there are additional failures starting to 
occur in that computer.  We are going to replace it.  Its around 10 years old.


Depending on your SCSI card BIOS, some allow you to set which LUN it 
boots.  You may want to explore the SCSI settings, and try to set the new 
drive as the first boot device, then try removing the old drive.


-Derek

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