Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-15 Thread Jerry Bell

Path MTU problem?



That would be my vote also.

Ted

  
I've done some more troubleshooting and some strange things have 
appeared.  First, the colo says there is NO proxy, and NO firewall in 
front of this server.


I captured a misfire on both the server and on my freebsd gateway.  The 
two traffic flows don't seem to quite line up.


First, here is the view from the server:
www# tcpdump - -vvv -A port 80
tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 
bytes
2006-02-15 22:18:11.014600 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 110, id 10713, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 48) c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: S [tcp sum ok] 1671172334:1671172334(0) win 
64512 mss 1260,nop,nop,sackOK


E..0)[EMAIL PROTECTED]QG...?.d,.i.Pc...p..._...
2006-02-15 22:18:11.014650 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 34040, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 48) www.musiclodge.com.http  
c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945: S [bad tcp cksum a4c0 
(-9a1f)!] 1547658190:1547658190(0) ack 1671172335 win 65535 mss 
1460,nop,nop,sackOK


[EMAIL PROTECTED]@..2?.d,GP.i\?c.c...p...
2006-02-15 22:18:11.060824 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 110, id 10715, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: . [tcp sum ok] 1:1(0) ack 1086692403 win 64856


E..()[EMAIL PROTECTED]WG...?.d,.i.Pc...P..X..
2006-02-15 22:18:11.060837 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 60576, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) www.musiclodge.com.http  
c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945: R [bad tcp cksum a4b8 
(-5e83)!] 2634350593:2634350593(0) win 0


E..([EMAIL PROTECTED]@...?.d,GP.iP...
2006-02-15 22:18:11.065196 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 110, id 10716, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: . [tcp sum ok] 387:387(0) ack 1086692403 win 64856


E..()[EMAIL PROTECTED]VG...?.d,.i.Pc..qP..X..
2006-02-15 22:18:11.065208 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 4488, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) www.musiclodge.com.http  
c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945: R [bad tcp cksum a4b8 
(-5e83)!] 2634350593:2634350593(0) win 0


E..([EMAIL PROTECTED]@...?.d,GP.iP...
2006-02-15 22:18:11.069569 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 110, id 10717, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 426) c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: P 1:387(386) ack 1086692403 win 64856

E...)[EMAIL PROTECTED].G...?.d,.i.Pc...P..X'1..GET / HTTP/1.1

   Accept: image/gif, image/x
2006-02-15 22:18:11.069579 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 40159, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) www.musiclodge.com.http  
c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945: R [bad tcp cksum a4b8 
(-5e83)!] 2634350593:2634350593(0) win 0


E..([EMAIL PROTECTED]@..R?.d,GP.iP...
2006-02-15 22:18:14.014594 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 12734, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 48) www.musiclodge.com.http  
c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945: S [bad tcp cksum a4c0 
(-9a1f)!] 1547658190:1547658190(0) ack 1671172335 win 65535 mss 
1460,nop,nop,sackOK


[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.dl?.d,GP.i\?c.c...p...
2006-02-15 22:18:14.073367 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 110, id 10734, offset 0, 
flags [none], length: 40) c-71-199-184-251.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: R [tcp sum ok] 1671172335:1671172335(0) win 0




Next, here is the view from the gateway (time is off on that one):
beta# tcpdump - -vvv -A port 80 and host 63.175.100.44
tcpdump: listening on xl0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 
bytes
2006-02-16 03:29:02.970756 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 10713, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 48) atllapjbell1.iss.local.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: S [tcp sum ok] 1671172334:1671172334(0) win 
64512 mss 1260,nop,nop,sackOK


E..0)[EMAIL PROTECTED],.i.Pc...p...
2006-02-16 03:29:03.016989 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  32, id 0, offset 0, flags 
[DF], length: 40) www.musiclodge.com.http  atllapjbell1.iss.local.3945: 
S [tcp sum ok] 2634350592:2634350592(0) ack 1671172335 win 64512


E..([EMAIL PROTECTED] ...?.d,.P.ic...P...-p..
2006-02-16 03:29:03.017099 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  45, id 34040, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 48) www.musiclodge.com.http  
atllapjbell1.iss.local.3945: S [tcp sum ok] 1547658190:1547658190(0) ack 
1671172335 win 65535 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK


[EMAIL PROTECTED],.P.i\?c.c...p...
2006-02-16 03:29:03.017963 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 10715, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) atllapjbell1.iss.local.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: . [tcp sum o

k] 1:1(0) ack 1086692403 win 64856

E..()[EMAIL PROTECTED],.i.Pc...P..X,.
2006-02-16 03:29:03.018308 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 10716, offset 0, 
flags [DF], length: 40) atllapjbell1.iss.local.3945  
www.musiclodge.com.http: . [tcp sum o

k] 387:387(0) ack 1086692403 win 64856

E..()[EMAIL PROTECTED],.i.Pc..qP..X*.
2006-02-16 03:29:03.018794 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 10717, offset 0, 
flags [DF], 

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-15 Thread Chuck Swiger
Jerry Bell wrote:
[ ... ]
 I've done some more troubleshooting and some strange things have
 appeared.  First, the colo says there is NO proxy, and NO firewall in
 front of this server.

That's believable too, perhaps you simply have a NIC which is failing or is
screwing up the packet checksums in some odd case.  You would have to sniff the
traffic from another machine (perhaps a sysadmin's laptop?) and grab the full
packets (-s 0 to tcpdump to be sure.

Have you tried swapping NICs or adding a PCI NIC card?  BTW:

 1671172334:1671172334(0) win 64512 mss 1260,nop,nop,sackOK 

This is not quite enough data to tell, but this looks like maybe you're seeing
the IPv6 MSS of 1260 rather than what I get by default (1460?) under FreeBSD?
Of course, it could just be a Windows client machine or something going through
something like a VPN/PPTP tunnel which reduces the MTU...?

What happens if you reduce your interface MTU to 1260?

You ought to be looking for all traffic between your server and a test host,
BTW, sometimes the ICMP traffic, if any, is important to understanding the 
issue.

-- 
-Chuck
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RE: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:41 AM
To: Jerry Bell
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem


On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:
 It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site,
 they get
 a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
 problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.

Path MTU problem?


That would be my vote also.

Ted

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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-14 Thread Jerry Bell
What's the best way to go about verifying and fixing that?  I have 
several other BSD servers on the same subnet in that colo that aren't 
having the problem. 


Many thanks for your help!

Jerry

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  

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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:41 AM
To: Jerry Bell
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem


On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:


It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site,
they get
a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.
  

Path MTU problem?




That would be my vote also.

Ted

  

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RE: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-14 Thread fbsd_user
The Path MTU problem was fixed 2 years ago.
You are beating a dead horse going down that path.
My money is on your firewall rules.

Debugging problems like this is a process of elimination.
First thing is to remove your ipfw firewall from the system.
If you complied ipfw into your kernel then recompile to remove it
totally.

Then test to see if problem is still happening.



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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:04 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem


What's the best way to go about verifying and fixing that?  I have
several other BSD servers on the same subnet in that colo that
aren't
having the problem.

Many thanks for your help!

Jerry

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

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Swiger
 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:41 AM
 To: Jerry Bell
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem


 On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:

 It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web
site,
 they get
 a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the
page - no
 problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same
problem.

 Path MTU problem?



 That would be my vote also.

 Ted


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Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site, they get
a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.

The problem appears to be something in the initial communication with the
web server.  Using tcpdump, I can see that the PC connects to the web
server and sends the GET request, but the server closes the connection
abruptly.  Comparing that flow to a normal session, I see that there are
some extra packets between the initial SYN and the sending of the GET
phrase that do not exist during a successful session.

I'm running 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18 (built from the
stable source as of that day).
I'm using apache 1.3.34.  I was on 1.3.33 and rebuilt the port to see if
that was the problem.

I'm not sure if this is an apache problem or a FreeBSD problem.  Any
suggestions on further troubleshooting or known issues?

Thank you!

Jerry

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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty

I think Ive seen this before too...

Is it possible that FreeBSD spins down the hard drive after  
inactivity, and the server doesn't always spin up the HD with a  
network request like this?




On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:

It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site,  
they get

a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.

The problem appears to be something in the initial communication  
with the

web server.  Using tcpdump, I can see that the PC connects to the web
server and sends the GET request, but the server closes the connection
abruptly.  Comparing that flow to a normal session, I see that  
there are

some extra packets between the initial SYN and the sending of the GET
phrase that do not exist during a successful session.

I'm running 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18 (built  
from the

stable source as of that day).
I'm using apache 1.3.34.  I was on 1.3.33 and rebuilt the port to  
see if

that was the problem.

I'm not sure if this is an apache problem or a FreeBSD problem.  Any
suggestions on further troubleshooting or known issues?

Thank you!

Jerry

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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
It's certainly possible.  This is a Dell PE 750, and I didn't do anything
in bios or in FreeBSD to enable that, so I'm thinking it might not be
that, but I'll investigate it.

Thanks!

Jerry
 I think Ive seen this before too...

 Is it possible that FreeBSD spins down the hard drive after
 inactivity, and the server doesn't always spin up the HD with a
 network request like this?



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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Ken Stevenson

Jerry Bell wrote:

It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site, they get
a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.

The problem appears to be something in the initial communication with the
web server.  Using tcpdump, I can see that the PC connects to the web
server and sends the GET request, but the server closes the connection
abruptly.  Comparing that flow to a normal session, I see that there are
some extra packets between the initial SYN and the sending of the GET
phrase that do not exist during a successful session.

I'm running 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18 (built from the
stable source as of that day).
I'm using apache 1.3.34.  I was on 1.3.33 and rebuilt the port to see if
that was the problem.

I'm not sure if this is an apache problem or a FreeBSD problem.  Any
suggestions on further troubleshooting or known issues?

Thank you!

Jerry

On a couple of occasions, I've had a similar problem that was the 
result of Apache having multiple processes running, and 1 of the 
running processes was failing while all the others were okay.


Try refreshing about 20 times and see if the problem comes and goes or 
if it only occurs on the first connection.


In any event, restarting Apache fixed the problem for me.

--
Ken Stevenson
Allen-Myland Inc.
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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty

So ACPI is disabled?


On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:

It's certainly possible.  This is a Dell PE 750, and I didn't do  
anything

in bios or in FreeBSD to enable that, so I'm thinking it might not be
that, but I'll investigate it.

Thanks!

Jerry

I think Ive seen this before too...

Is it possible that FreeBSD spins down the hard drive after
inactivity, and the server doesn't always spin up the HD with a
network request like this?




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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Charles Swiger

On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:
It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site,  
they get

a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.


Path MTU problem?

The problem appears to be something in the initial communication  
with the

web server.  Using tcpdump, I can see that the PC connects to the web
server and sends the GET request, but the server closes the connection
abruptly.  Comparing that flow to a normal session, I see that  
there are

some extra packets between the initial SYN and the sending of the GET
phrase that do not exist during a successful session.


The details would help.  :-)  Or you could tell us what the server is  
so we could try hitting it ourselves...


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-Chuck

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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com.  I will
gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and send it
out.

Thanks!

 On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:
 It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site,
 they get
 a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
 problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.

 Path MTU problem?

 The problem appears to be something in the initial communication
 with the
 web server.  Using tcpdump, I can see that the PC connects to the web
 server and sends the GET request, but the server closes the connection
 abruptly.  Comparing that flow to a normal session, I see that
 there are
 some extra packets between the initial SYN and the sending of the GET
 phrase that do not exist during a successful session.

 The details would help.  :-)  Or you could tell us what the server is
 so we could try hitting it ourselves...

 --
 -Chuck




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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
 So ACPI is disabled?
I'm assuming it's enabled.  Can that be a problem?


Aug 29 12:04:46 www syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988,
1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18 07:49:41 UTC
2005
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz
quality 0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
(2800.12-MHz 686-class CPU)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel:
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: real memory  = 536608768 (511 MB)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: avail memory = 515444736 (491 MB)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE750   
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: math processor on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: DELL PE750 on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz
quality 1000
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz
port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff
on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 3.0 on
pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection,
Version - 1.7.35 port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xfe2e-0xfe2f irq 18 at
device 1.0 on pci1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:ec:f4:90
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0:  Speed:N/A  Duplex:N/A
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.0 on
pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Dell CERC SATA RAID 2 mem
0xf400-0xf7ff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Unknown processor 100MHz, 48MB cache
memory, optional battery not installed
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Kernel 4.1-0, Build 7406, S/N c540d4
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Supported
Options=1097cWCACHE,DATA64,HOSTTIME,RAID50,WINDOW4GB,SOFTERR,ALARM
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci0: UHCI (generic) USB controller port
0xcce0-0xccff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci1: UHCI (generic) USB controller port
0xccc0-0xccdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: UHCI (generic) USB controller on uhci1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral at device 29.4 (no
driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral, interrupt controller
at device 29.5 (no driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: serial bus, USB at device 29.7 (no
driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on
pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection,
Version - 1.7.35 port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xfdee-0xfdef irq 21 at
device 2.0 on pci3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em1: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:ec:f4:91
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em1:  Speed:N/A  Duplex:N/A
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci3: display, VGA at device 14.0 (no driver
attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: isa0: ISA bus on isab0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: atapci0: Intel 6300ESB SATA150 controller
port 0xfea0-0xfeaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.2 on
pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ata1: 

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty
I'm hardly on expert on these sorts of things, but I *believe* that  
ACPI is responsible for power management stuff, including possibly  
spinning down your hard drive after inactivity. Try restarting with  
ACPI enabled (which you can do on your boot menu), or disable ACPI  
within your BIOS for a while to see if this helps.. certainly can't  
hurt to try.





On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:


So ACPI is disabled?

I'm assuming it's enabled.  Can that be a problem?


Aug 29 12:04:46 www syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD  
Project.
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,  
1988,

1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: The Regents of the University of  
California.

All rights reserved.
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18  
07:49:41 UTC

2005
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz
quality 0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
(2800.12-MHz 686-class CPU)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41   
Stepping = 1

Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel:
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P 
GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE 


Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: real memory  = 536608768 (511 MB)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: avail memory = 515444736 (491 MB)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE750   
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on  
motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on  
motherboard

Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: math processor on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: DELL PE750 on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency  
3579545 Hz

quality 1000
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz
port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port  
0xcf8-0xcff

on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device  
3.0 on

pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network  
Connection,
Version - 1.7.35 port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xfe2e-0xfe2f irq  
18 at

device 1.0 on pci1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:ec:f4:90
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0:  Speed:N/A  Duplex:N/A
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device  
28.0 on

pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Dell CERC SATA RAID 2 mem
0xf400-0xf7ff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Unknown processor 100MHz, 48MB cache
memory, optional battery not installed
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Kernel 4.1-0, Build 7406, S/N c540d4
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Supported
Options=1097cWCACHE,DATA64,HOSTTIME,RAID50,WINDOW4GB,SOFTERR,ALARM
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci0: UHCI (generic) USB controller  
port

0xcce0-0xccff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: UHCI (generic) USB controller  
on uhci0

Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self  
powered
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci1: UHCI (generic) USB controller  
port

0xccc0-0xccdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: UHCI (generic) USB controller  
on uhci1

Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self  
powered

Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral at device 29.4 (no
driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral, interrupt  
controller

at device 29.5 (no driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: serial bus, USB at device 29.7 (no
driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device  
30.0 on

pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network  
Connection,
Version - 1.7.35 port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xfdee-0xfdef irq  
21 at

device 2.0 on pci3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em1: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:ec:f4:91
Aug 29 12:04:46 

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
I will give that a try.

Thank you for your help!

Jerry
 I'm hardly on expert on these sorts of things, but I *believe* that
 ACPI is responsible for power management stuff, including possibly
 spinning down your hard drive after inactivity. Try restarting with
 ACPI enabled (which you can do on your boot menu), or disable ACPI
 within your BIOS for a while to see if this helps.. certainly can't
 hurt to try.




 On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:

 So ACPI is disabled?
 I'm assuming it's enabled.  Can that be a problem?


 Aug 29 12:04:46 www syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD
 Project.
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
 1988,
 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: The Regents of the University of
 California.
 All rights reserved.
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18
 07:49:41 UTC
 2005
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz
 quality 0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
 (2800.12-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41
 Stepping = 1
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel:
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P
 GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
 
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: real memory  = 536608768 (511 MB)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: avail memory = 515444736 (491 MB)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE750   
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on
 motherboard
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on
 motherboard
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: math processor on motherboard
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: DELL PE750 on motherboard
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency
 3579545 Hz
 quality 1000
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz
 port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port
 0xcf8-0xcff
 on acpi0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device
 3.0 on
 pci0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network
 Connection,
 Version - 1.7.35 port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xfe2e-0xfe2f irq
 18 at
 device 1.0 on pci1
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:ec:f4:90
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0:  Speed:N/A  Duplex:N/A
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device
 28.0 on
 pci0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Dell CERC SATA RAID 2 mem
 0xf400-0xf7ff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci2
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Unknown processor 100MHz, 48MB cache
 memory, optional battery not installed
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Kernel 4.1-0, Build 7406, S/N c540d4
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Supported
 Options=1097cWCACHE,DATA64,HOSTTIME,RAID50,WINDOW4GB,SOFTERR,ALARM
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci0: UHCI (generic) USB controller
 port
 0xcce0-0xccff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: UHCI (generic) USB controller
 on uhci0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
 powered
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci1: UHCI (generic) USB controller
 port
 0xccc0-0xccdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: UHCI (generic) USB controller
 on uhci1
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
 powered
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral at device 29.4 (no
 driver attached)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral, interrupt
 controller
 at device 29.5 (no driver attached)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: serial bus, USB at device 29.7 (no
 driver attached)
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device
 30.0 on
 pci0
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
 Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network
 Connection,
 Version - 1.7.35 port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xfdee-0xfdef irq
 21 at
 device 2.0 on 

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty
Some software (such as VMWare) will only work with ACPI disabled  
anyway. Even in our Mac labs here, we disable all Energy Saver  
settings - it just isn't worth the hassle, especially when there  
isn't much to gain on a Desktop machine, IMHO.



On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:


I will give that a try.

Thank you for your help!

Jerry

I'm hardly on expert on these sorts of things, but I *believe* that
ACPI is responsible for power management stuff, including possibly
spinning down your hard drive after inactivity. Try restarting with
ACPI enabled (which you can do on your boot menu), or disable ACPI
within your BIOS for a while to see if this helps.. certainly can't
hurt to try.




On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:


So ACPI is disabled?

I'm assuming it's enabled.  Can that be a problem?


Aug 29 12:04:46 www syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD
Project.
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
1988,
1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: The Regents of the University of
California.
All rights reserved.
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 18
07:49:41 UTC
2005
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz
quality 0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
(2800.12-MHz 686-class CPU)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41
Stepping = 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel:
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR 
,P
GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,P 
BE



Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: real memory  = 536608768 (511 MB)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: avail memory = 515444736 (491 MB)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE750   
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on
motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on
motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: math processor on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: DELL PE750 on motherboard
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency
3579545 Hz
quality 1000
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at  
3.579545MHz

port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port
0xcf8-0xcff
on acpi0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device
3.0 on
pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network
Connection,
Version - 1.7.35 port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xfe2e-0xfe2f irq
18 at
device 1.0 on pci1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:12:3f:ec:f4:90
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: em0:  Speed:N/A  Duplex:N/A
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device
28.0 on
pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Dell CERC SATA RAID 2 mem
0xf400-0xf7ff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci2
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Unknown processor 100MHz, 48MB  
cache

memory, optional battery not installed
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Kernel 4.1-0, Build 7406, S/N  
c540d4

Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: aac0: Supported
Options=1097cWCACHE,DATA64,HOSTTIME,RAID50,WINDOW4GB,SOFTERR,ALARM
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci0: UHCI (generic) USB controller
port
0xcce0-0xccff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: UHCI (generic) USB controller
on uhci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class  
9/0, rev

1.00/1.00, addr 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
powered
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhci1: UHCI (generic) USB controller
port
0xccc0-0xccdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: UHCI (generic) USB controller
on uhci1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class  
9/0, rev

1.00/1.00, addr 1
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
powered
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral at device  
29.4 (no

driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: base peripheral, interrupt
controller
at device 29.5 (no driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pci0: serial bus, USB at device  
29.7 (no

driver attached)
Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device
30.0 on
pci0

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Charles Swiger

On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:
I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com.  I  
will
gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and  
send it

out.


Well, I can confirm the behavior you've described.

It looks somewhat like a stateful firewall or is in the way and is  
generating an RST, even while your webserver tries to generate a  
response.  However, once the firewall sees the outbound traffic, it  
seems to create a dynamic rule which lets the traffic from subsequent  
connections through:


5-pan# tcpdump -tnXs 0 host www.musiclodge.com
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol  
decode

listening on en0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: S 2282569549:2282569549 
(0) win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 1159441862 0
0x:  4510 003c 4653 4000 4006 7328 c767 15ee  E..[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s 
(.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4d    ?.d,.4.P..? 
M
0x0020:  a002  815f  0204 05b4 0103  
0300  ._..

0x0030:  0101 080a 451b adc6  E...
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 2634350592:2634350592 
(0) ack 2282569550 win 65535
0x:  4500 0028  4000 2506 d49f 3faf 642c  E..([EMAIL PROTECTED] 
%...?.d,
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05  880d 3f4e  .g...P. 
4..?N
0x0020:  5012  03bc     1b60   
P..`

0x0030:  2678 x
IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: . ack 1 win 65535
0x:  4510 0028 4655 4000 4006 733a c767 15ee  E.. 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s:.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e 9d05 0001  ?.d,.4.P..? 
N

0x0020:  5010  03bd   P...

3-way handshake is completed here, next traffic should be from my  
machine making the GET /, request, but instead your machine sends  
another ACK:


IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 2238145710:2238145710 
(0) ack 2282569550 win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 1,nop,nop,timestamp  
1453026167 1159441862
0x:  4500 003c 57fa 4000 3206 6f91 3faf 642c  E..[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
2.o.?.d,
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 8567 64ae 880d 3f4e  .g...P. 
4.gd...?N
0x0020:  a012  9cdb  0204 05b4 0103  
0301  
0x0030:  0101 080a 569b 6b77 451b adc6 9345  
1153  V.kwEE.S


Interesting that the previous ack had no TCP options set, whereas  
this one does include a timestamp in response.


IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: . ack 396204883 win 65535  
nop,nop,timestamp 1159441863 1453026167
0x:  4510 0034 4656 4000 4006 732d c767 15ee  E.. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s-.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e 9d05 0001  ?.d,.4.P..? 
N
0x0020:  8010  8157  0101 080a 451b  
adc7  .W..E...

0x0030:  569b 6b77V.kw

Where did sequence # 396204883 come from?  And your side follows up  
with a pair of connection resets, and a normal ACK packet, too.


IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: R 2634350593:2634350593 
(0) win 0
0x:  4500 0028 b6f6 4000 3206 10a9 3faf 642c  E..([EMAIL PROTECTED] 
2...?.d,
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05 0001    .g...P. 
4
0x0020:  5004  cb24     f3fa  P 
$..

0x0030:  5489 T.
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: R 2634350593:2634350593 
(0) win 0
0x:  4500 0028 4bfc 4000 3206 7ba3 3faf 642c  E..([EMAIL PROTECTED] 
{.?.d,
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05 0001    .g...P. 
4
0x0020:  5004  cb24     abb8  P 
$..

0x0030:  c9be ..
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 2238145710:2238145710 
(0) ack 2282569550 win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 1,nop,nop,timestamp  
1453026467 1159441862
0x:  4500 003c 3a9d 4000 3206 8cee 3faf 642c  E..:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
2...?.d,
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 8567 64ae 880d 3f4e  .g...P. 
4.gd...?N
0x0020:  a012  9baf  0204 05b4 0103  
0301  
0x0030:  0101 080a 569b 6ca3 451b adc6 bdd6  
d7c9  V.l.E...


...and my side closes, too.  Something is badly confused.

IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: R 2282569550:2282569550 
(0) win 0
0x:  4500 0028 465a 4000 4006 7345 c767 15ee  E.. 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]@.sE.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e    ?.d,.4.P..? 
N

0x0020:  5004  a0cf   P...

---

When I repeat the connection attempt a few seconds later:

IP 199.103.21.238.50743  63.175.100.44.80: S 262625798:262625798(0)  
win 

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Gerard Seibert
Jerry Bell wrote:

 I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com.  I will
 gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and send it
 out.
 
 Thanks!
 
  On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote:
  It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site,
  they get
  a server not found page.  On hitting refresh, they get the page - no
  problems.  If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem.
 
  Path MTU problem?
 
  The problem appears to be something in the initial communication
  with the
  web server.  Using tcpdump, I can see that the PC connects to the web
  server and sends the GET request, but the server closes the connection
  abruptly.  Comparing that flow to a normal session, I see that
  there are
  some extra packets between the initial SYN and the sending of the GET
  phrase that do not exist during a successful session.
 
  The details would help.  :-)  Or you could tell us what the server is
  so we could try hitting it ourselves...
 
  --
  -Chuck

I just tried visiting the site five times in the past few minutes
without incident. That probably does not help you very much though. I
am using FF, the latest version if that means anything.

-- 
Gerard
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Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
Charles - thank you for your excellent investigation!  I'm pretty sure 
that my colo provider isn't running a firewall (I've asked them not to, 
anyhow).  I am running IPFW on that box, with the standard allow tcp 
from any to any established followed by the  allow tcp any to my_ip 80 
setup.  I've done that on other servers without it being a problem like 
this.  I'm going to have the colo double check for router acl's or 
something like that in the morning.


Since this is such an intermittent problem, I can't yet say that it's 
fixed, but I ran with the disks being idled theory and wrote a small 
script that creates a file and deletes a file every minute, and since 
that's been running, I've not seeing the issue repeat - but then this is 
not a very repeatable problem.


Thanks again for your great assistance.

Jerry


Charles Swiger wrote:

On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:

I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com.  I will
gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and 
send it

out.


Well, I can confirm the behavior you've described.

It looks somewhat like a stateful firewall or is in the way and is 
generating an RST, even while your webserver tries to generate a 
response.  However, once the firewall sees the outbound traffic, it 
seems to create a dynamic rule which lets the traffic from subsequent 
connections through:


5-pan# tcpdump -tnXs 0 host www.musiclodge.com
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol 
decode

listening on en0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: S 2282569549:2282569549(0) 
win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 1159441862 0
0x:  4510 003c 4653 4000 4006 7328 c767 15ee  
E..[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s(.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4d    
?.d,.4.P..?M
0x0020:  a002  815f  0204 05b4 0103 0300  
._..

0x0030:  0101 080a 451b adc6  E...
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 2634350592:2634350592(0) 
ack 2282569550 win 65535
0x:  4500 0028  4000 2506 d49f 3faf 642c  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05  880d 3f4e  
.g...P.4..?N
0x0020:  5012  03bc     1b60  
P..`

0x0030:  2678 x
IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: . ack 1 win 65535
0x:  4510 0028 4655 4000 4006 733a c767 15ee  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s:.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e 9d05 0001  
?.d,.4.P..?N

0x0020:  5010  03bd   P...

3-way handshake is completed here, next traffic should be from my 
machine making the GET /, request, but instead your machine sends 
another ACK:


IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 2238145710:2238145710(0) 
ack 2282569550 win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 1,nop,nop,timestamp 
1453026167 1159441862
0x:  4500 003c 57fa 4000 3206 6f91 3faf 642c  
E..[EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 8567 64ae 880d 3f4e  
.g...P.4.gd...?N
0x0020:  a012  9cdb  0204 05b4 0103 0301  

0x0030:  0101 080a 569b 6b77 451b adc6 9345 1153  
V.kwEE.S


Interesting that the previous ack had no TCP options set, whereas this 
one does include a timestamp in response.


IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: . ack 396204883 win 65535 
nop,nop,timestamp 1159441863 1453026167
0x:  4510 0034 4656 4000 4006 732d c767 15ee  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s-.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e 9d05 0001  
?.d,.4.P..?N
0x0020:  8010  8157  0101 080a 451b adc7  
.W..E...

0x0030:  569b 6b77V.kw

Where did sequence # 396204883 come from?  And your side follows up 
with a pair of connection resets, and a normal ACK packet, too.


IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: R 2634350593:2634350593(0) 
win 0
0x:  4500 0028 b6f6 4000 3206 10a9 3faf 642c  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05 0001    
.g...P.4
0x0020:  5004  cb24     f3fa  
P$..

0x0030:  5489 T.
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: R 2634350593:2634350593(0) 
win 0
0x:  4500 0028 4bfc 4000 3206 7ba3 3faf 642c  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05 0001    
.g...P.4
0x0020:  5004  cb24     abb8  
P$..

0x0030:  c9be ..
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 2238145710:2238145710(0) 
ack 2282569550 win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 1,nop,nop,timestamp 
1453026467 1159441862
0x:  4500 003c 3a9d 4000 3206 8cee 3faf 642c  
E..:[EMAIL 

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
Looks like it's still an issue, so I'd say the firewall issue is still 
in play.  If there is not a firewall/proxy in place, are there any known 
issues with IPFW (or anything else with FBSD) that could cause this 
behavior?


Jerry Bell wrote:
Charles - thank you for your excellent investigation!  I'm pretty sure 
that my colo provider isn't running a firewall (I've asked them not 
to, anyhow).  I am running IPFW on that box, with the standard allow 
tcp from any to any established followed by the  allow tcp any to 
my_ip 80 setup.  I've done that on other servers without it being a 
problem like this.  I'm going to have the colo double check for router 
acl's or something like that in the morning.


Since this is such an intermittent problem, I can't yet say that it's 
fixed, but I ran with the disks being idled theory and wrote a small 
script that creates a file and deletes a file every minute, and since 
that's been running, I've not seeing the issue repeat - but then this 
is not a very repeatable problem.


Thanks again for your great assistance.

Jerry


Charles Swiger wrote:

On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:
I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com.  I 
will
gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and 
send it

out.


Well, I can confirm the behavior you've described.

It looks somewhat like a stateful firewall or is in the way and is 
generating an RST, even while your webserver tries to generate a 
response.  However, once the firewall sees the outbound traffic, it 
seems to create a dynamic rule which lets the traffic from subsequent 
connections through:


5-pan# tcpdump -tnXs 0 host www.musiclodge.com
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol 
decode

listening on en0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: S 
2282569549:2282569549(0) win 65535 mss 1460,nop,wscale 
0,nop,nop,timestamp 1159441862 0
0x:  4510 003c 4653 4000 4006 7328 c767 15ee  
E..[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s(.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4d    
?.d,.4.P..?M
0x0020:  a002  815f  0204 05b4 0103 0300  
._..

0x0030:  0101 080a 451b adc6  E...
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 
2634350592:2634350592(0) ack 2282569550 win 65535
0x:  4500 0028  4000 2506 d49f 3faf 642c  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05  880d 3f4e  
.g...P.4..?N
0x0020:  5012  03bc     1b60  
P..`

0x0030:  2678 x
IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: . ack 1 win 65535
0x:  4510 0028 4655 4000 4006 733a c767 15ee  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s:.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e 9d05 0001  
?.d,.4.P..?N

0x0020:  5010  03bd   P...

3-way handshake is completed here, next traffic should be from my 
machine making the GET /, request, but instead your machine sends 
another ACK:


IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: S 
2238145710:2238145710(0) ack 2282569550 win 65535 mss 
1460,nop,wscale 1,nop,nop,timestamp 1453026167 1159441862
0x:  4500 003c 57fa 4000 3206 6f91 3faf 642c  
E..[EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 8567 64ae 880d 3f4e  
.g...P.4.gd...?N
0x0020:  a012  9cdb  0204 05b4 0103 0301  

0x0030:  0101 080a 569b 6b77 451b adc6 9345 1153  
V.kwEE.S


Interesting that the previous ack had no TCP options set, whereas 
this one does include a timestamp in response.


IP 199.103.21.238.50740  63.175.100.44.80: . ack 396204883 win 65535 
nop,nop,timestamp 1159441863 1453026167
0x:  4510 0034 4656 4000 4006 732d c767 15ee  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.s-.g..
0x0010:  3faf 642c c634 0050 880d 3f4e 9d05 0001  
?.d,.4.P..?N
0x0020:  8010  8157  0101 080a 451b adc7  
.W..E...

0x0030:  569b 6b77V.kw

Where did sequence # 396204883 come from?  And your side follows up 
with a pair of connection resets, and a normal ACK packet, too.


IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: R 
2634350593:2634350593(0) win 0
0x:  4500 0028 b6f6 4000 3206 10a9 3faf 642c  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05 0001    
.g...P.4
0x0020:  5004  cb24     f3fa  
P$..

0x0030:  5489 T.
IP 63.175.100.44.80  199.103.21.238.50740: R 
2634350593:2634350593(0) win 0
0x:  4500 0028 4bfc 4000 3206 7ba3 3faf 642c  
E..([EMAIL PROTECTED],
0x0010:  c767 15ee 0050 c634 9d05 0001    
.g...P.4
0x0020:  5004  cb24     abb8  
P$..

0x0030:  c9be   

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
Jerry Bell wrote:
 Looks like it's still an issue, so I'd say the firewall issue is still
 in play.  If there is not a firewall/proxy in place, are there any
 known issues with IPFW (or anything else with FBSD) that could cause
 this behavior?
Hi Jerry - hard to tell without seeing your firewall rules in place...

any errors in httpd-error.log ?

Beto
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