Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Kiffin Gish
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 10:14 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:57 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan to
> > > > use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
> > > > setup I have this:
> > > > 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
> > > > Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > > /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> > > > devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > > /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> > > > /dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
> > > > /dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var
> > > > 
> > > > I have three questions:
> > > > 
> > > > 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?
> > > 
> > > Well, if it is really only a 20MB drive, I certainly wouldn't
> > > break it up at all.
> > > But, if it is really 20GB or something like that - your ad0 looks
> > > like it is a nominal 36GB or maybe a 40 GB - then it really depends
> > > on what you are doing.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes I meant 20MB of course (sorry). Megabytes, megabytes, megabytes.
> 
> -GB-

Am I sleeping or what?

Yes, of course I meant GB!!!

Sorry (again) ...

> 
> > > > 2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
> > > > called /extra?
> > > 
> > > That would not be a bad choice, expecially if you have a backup device
> > > that will hold the whole drive.   The only real reasons to break it up
> > > are to facilitate backup/recovery and to isolate things.
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually I want to use it for backing up other systems, perhaps even on
> > a per person basis, storing files like images, MP3s, MPEGs, etc. Maybe
> > even using it as a Samba server and/or streaming music server.
> 
> Well, in that case, it might not be a bad idea to make a partition
> for each person.  But, there are not so many partitions available
>  - only a-h.  If you have less than 8 people, it would work, but
> if you have more, then you might want to explore chroot and jails
> to keep them isolated.
> 
> > 
> > > > 3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?
> > > 
> > > That would be a good idea, but it is not required.   It is a 
> > > reasonable idea to split your swap over all your drives, but
> > > there is nothing that makes that mandatory.
> > 
> > I read somewhere that one should 'always' have a swap area available on
> > every drive in case the kernel crashes.
> 
> That would probably be every boot drive/slice.   For a kernel crash,
> having swap on a different drive probably is less relevent.
> 
> jerry
> 
> > 
> > > jerry
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks alot in advance as usual.
> > > > 
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> > > > 
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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Adi Pircalabu
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:05:55 +0100
Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Well, if it is really only a 20MB drive, I certainly wouldn't
> > break it up at all.
> > But, if it is really 20GB or something like that - your ad0 looks
> > like it is a nominal 36GB or maybe a 40 GB - then it really depends
> > on what you are doing.
> > 
> 
> Yes I meant 20MB of course (sorry). Megabytes, megabytes, megabytes.

For learning purposes size does not matter that much, FreeBSD Handbook
contains useful information on how to use disks on FreeBSD. But, for a
production fileserver with backup purposes, how much do you expect to
backup on a 20MB disk?

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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:57 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > 
> > > I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan to
> > > use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
> > > setup I have this:
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
> > > Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> > > devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> > > /dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
> > > /dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var
> > > 
> > > I have three questions:
> > > 
> > > 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?
> > 
> > Well, if it is really only a 20MB drive, I certainly wouldn't
> > break it up at all.
> > But, if it is really 20GB or something like that - your ad0 looks
> > like it is a nominal 36GB or maybe a 40 GB - then it really depends
> > on what you are doing.
> > 
> 
> Yes I meant 20MB of course (sorry). Megabytes, megabytes, megabytes.

-GB-

> > > 2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
> > > called /extra?
> > 
> > That would not be a bad choice, expecially if you have a backup device
> > that will hold the whole drive.   The only real reasons to break it up
> > are to facilitate backup/recovery and to isolate things.
> > 
> 
> Actually I want to use it for backing up other systems, perhaps even on
> a per person basis, storing files like images, MP3s, MPEGs, etc. Maybe
> even using it as a Samba server and/or streaming music server.

Well, in that case, it might not be a bad idea to make a partition
for each person.  But, there are not so many partitions available
 - only a-h.  If you have less than 8 people, it would work, but
if you have more, then you might want to explore chroot and jails
to keep them isolated.

> 
> > > 3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?
> > 
> > That would be a good idea, but it is not required.   It is a 
> > reasonable idea to split your swap over all your drives, but
> > there is nothing that makes that mandatory.
> 
> I read somewhere that one should 'always' have a swap area available on
> every drive in case the kernel crashes.

That would probably be every boot drive/slice.   For a kernel crash,
having swap on a different drive probably is less relevent.

jerry

> 
> > jerry
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks alot in advance as usual.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Kiffin Gish
> > > Gouda, The Netherlands
> > > 
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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Nicolas Blais
On November 22, 2005 10:05 am, Kiffin Gish wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:57 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan
> > > to use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
> > > setup I have this:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
> > > Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> > > devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > > /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> > > /dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
> > > /dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var
> > >
> > > I have three questions:
> > >
> > > 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?
> >
> > Well, if it is really only a 20MB drive, I certainly wouldn't
> > break it up at all.
> > But, if it is really 20GB or something like that - your ad0 looks
> > like it is a nominal 36GB or maybe a 40 GB - then it really depends
> > on what you are doing.
>
> Yes I meant 20MB of course (sorry). Megabytes, megabytes, megabytes.

I wasn't aware you could still get 20MB hard drives... Not to insult your 
intelligence, but are you certain you meant 20MB (equivalent of 13 floppy 
disks) and not 20GB (equivalent of ~ 30 cds?)

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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Kiffin Gish
On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:57 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > 
> > I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan to
> > use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
> > setup I have this:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
> > Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> > devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> > /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> > /dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
> > /dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var
> > 
> > I have three questions:
> > 
> > 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?
> 
> Well, if it is really only a 20MB drive, I certainly wouldn't
> break it up at all.
> But, if it is really 20GB or something like that - your ad0 looks
> like it is a nominal 36GB or maybe a 40 GB - then it really depends
> on what you are doing.
> 

Yes I meant 20MB of course (sorry). Megabytes, megabytes, megabytes.

> > 
> > 2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
> > called /extra?
> 
> That would not be a bad choice, expecially if you have a backup device
> that will hold the whole drive.   The only real reasons to break it up
> are to facilitate backup/recovery and to isolate things.
> 

Actually I want to use it for backing up other systems, perhaps even on
a per person basis, storing files like images, MP3s, MPEGs, etc. Maybe
even using it as a Samba server and/or streaming music server.

> > 
> > 3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?
> 
> That would be a good idea, but it is not required.   It is a 
> reasonable idea to split your swap over all your drives, but
> there is nothing that makes that mandatory.

I read somewhere that one should 'always' have a swap area available on
every drive in case the kernel crashes.

> 
> jerry
> 
> > 
> > Thanks alot in advance as usual.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kiffin Gish
> > Gouda, The Netherlands
> > 
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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan to
> use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
> setup I have this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
> Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> /dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
> /dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var
> 
> I have three questions:
> 
> 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?

Well, if it is really only a 20MB drive, I certainly wouldn't
break it up at all.
But, if it is really 20GB or something like that - your ad0 looks
like it is a nominal 36GB or maybe a 40 GB - then it really depends
on what you are doing.

> 
> 2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
> called /extra?

That would not be a bad choice, expecially if you have a backup device
that will hold the whole drive.   The only real reasons to break it up
are to facilitate backup/recovery and to isolate things.

> 
> 3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?

That would be a good idea, but it is not required.   It is a 
reasonable idea to split your swap over all your drives, but
there is nothing that makes that mandatory.

jerry

> 
> Thanks alot in advance as usual.
> 
> -- 
> Kiffin Gish
> Gouda, The Netherlands
> 
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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Nicolas Blais
On November 22, 2005 09:41 am, Kiffin Gish wrote:
> I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan to
> use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
> setup I have this:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
> Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
> devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> /dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
> /dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
> /dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var
>
> I have three questions:
>
> 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?
>
I'll assume you meant 20gb.  The best partition is the one that is the most 
useful for you.  I don't like having partitions above 100gb, and that's a 
personal preference.  I'd use the whole 20gb.  

> 2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
> called /extra?
>
If you do decide to use it all, you won't have a choice but to have one hard 
mount point.  Based on what my drives are used for, I will put it in 
different places.

Ex: my backup drive resides in /mnt/backup.  My public share drive resides 
in /usr/local/public_share.

Again, theses are not standards but what I'm most comfortable with.

> 3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?
>
Not if you don't need it.

> Thanks alot in advance as usual.

No prob,
Nicolas.
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Re: How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread albi
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:41:26 +0100
Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?

you mean 20 Gb or something else, no ?

> 2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
> called /extra?

yes

> 3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?

no

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How to access filesystem on 2nd disk ...

2005-11-22 Thread Kiffin Gish
I installed freeBSD 5.4 on a system with two hard disks, which I plan to
use as a dedicated fileserver, and following the default sysinstall
setup I have this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] df -h
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a248M 35M193M15%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e248M 12K228M 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f 35G573M 31G 2%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d248M1.4M226M 1%/var

I have three questions:

1/ What's the best way to partition my second 20MB hard disk?

2/ Should I dedicate the whole thing to one mount point, say
called /extra?

3/ Do I also need swap space on the 2nd drive?

Thanks alot in advance as usual.

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