Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 06:58:07AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: # > # > 2. Replace the vendor installed NTFS with a UFS file system. # > # > $ newfs -U /dev/da1s1 # > # > (No, I didn't bother to create BSD partitions) # # but why still create msdos partition? I didn't create one, I just left it as is. For some reason fdisk would error out and sysinstall's fdisk would compute bogus capacities: use the number of sectors and multiply them by 512 instead of 4096--that scared me to the point I didn't want to have fdisk write to the disk. Next on my TODO list: learn about gpart. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
2. Replace the vendor installed NTFS with a UFS file system. $ newfs -U /dev/da1s1 (No, I didn't bother to create BSD partitions) but why still create msdos partition? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
I solved it. No kernel or other driver installations necessary beyond those I already had (xhci). 1. Hook up disk to USB 2 Port. -> System detects drive and creates device nodes: ugen3.2: at usbus3 umass1: on usbus3 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) 2. Replace the vendor installed NTFS with a UFS file system. $ newfs -U /dev/da1s1 (No, I didn't bother to create BSD partitions) 3. Hook up disk to USB 3 Port. -> Now system detects drive and creates device nodes: ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 400.000MB/s transfers da1: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) 4. Mount $ mount /dev/da1s1 /mnt $ df /mnt FilesystemSizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1968G8.2k891G 0%/mnt Wohooo! Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 08:26:21PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: ... # > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I # > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever # > growing list of # > # >ugen4.2: at usbus4 # >umass2: on usbus4 # >ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) # >umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) # > # > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 # > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for # > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down # > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the # > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is # > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? # > # > Regards, # > # >Jens # # Logic dictates that you try with GENERIC, see if that works any better ;) I tried with a GENERIC from -CURRENT, the detection message is somewhat different: ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass0:10:0:-1: Attached to scbus10 However still no device nodes, AFAICT. Using "camcontrol rescan all" followed by "camcontrol devlist" does not show the drive. Any chance I can get this drive going on USB 3? Could the problem be the quirk = 0x0100? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On 06/01/12 04:01, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > My goal is to get it recognized on one of the two USB3 ports I have. > All I get there is > Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 > Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: umass0: 0/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus4 > and after 100 seconds: > Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 > (disconnected) > Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: umass0: at uhub4, port 2, addr 1 > (disconnected) > > There never is a device node like /dev/daN created, like it does > for the USB 3.0 *stick* I have. Any chance you have access to a 3.0 drive from a different mfg you can try to point the finger at the driver? seagate go-flex works. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
Hi Wojciech et al, On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:42:53AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: # > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt # > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument # > ) # your dmesg shows drive is properly detected. Yes, but this was only on a USB2 (two) port, and just an auxiliary information, to show the drive is not dead or otherwise funky. Once I get it running, I'll put an UFS2 on it. My goal is to get it recognized on one of the two USB3 ports I have. All I get there is Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 Jun 1 11:43:45 hal9000 kernel: umass0: on usbus4 and after 100 seconds: Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) Jun 1 11:45:26 hal9000 kernel: umass0: at uhub4, port 2, addr 1 (disconnected) There never is a device node like /dev/daN created, like it does for the USB 3.0 *stick* I have. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
I have recompiled the kernel with "device ada" and put ahci_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf. you don't need ada driver for USB disk. anyway you need it for your SATA disk to make things fast. and mounting it works. Obviously, for the disk the device nodes aren't created... Is there something different between umass sticks and umass drives? lost of USB devices are not really standard compliant. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 06:14:08PM -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: ... # I think you also need xhci driver in kernel config. xhci is for USB 3.0. It's there. As I said, using a USB 3 *Stick* works fine. It is recogized as 3.0 and the speed is as expected. It's the *Disk* that is not recognized. They're both umass devices. I don't need to boot from that disk, I just want to use it as external data storage. I have recompiled the kernel with "device ada" and put ahci_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf. When I plug the disk, the log now says ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 only once (the old kernel would says so every 20 seconds or so). In contrast, when I plug the stick in the same port, I get ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass0: on usbus4 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 400.000MB/s transfers da0: 15082MB (30887936 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1922C) and mounting it works. Obviously, for the disk the device nodes aren't created... Is there something different between umass sticks and umass drives? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
# mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument ) your dmesg shows drive is properly detected. seems like ntfs driver doesn't work OR MBR is't properly handled. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On Thu, 31 May 2012, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged to an USB2(two!) reports da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 40.000MB/s transfers da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. Strangely, I cannot mount it with # ll /dev/da5* crw-r- 1 root operator0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 crw-r- 1 root operator0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument ) It may not actually be an NTFS filesystem. Try # file -s /dev/da5s1 Much more likely to be a USB problem than something to do with block size. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On 05/31/12 09:57, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports > da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 40.000MB/s transfers > da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) > and > # diskinfo -v da5 > da5 > 4096# sectorsize > 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) > 244190646 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > 00A123456789# Disk ident. > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r- 1 root operator0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r- 1 root operator0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever > growing list of > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > umass2: > on usbus4 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) > umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? Gary Aitken responded: > According to the handbook you need all of the following drivers: > scbus da pass uhci ohci ehci usb umass > Don't know if this helps, but 512K sectorsize on usb 3 seems to work fine > here: > %diskinfo -v da0 > da0 > 512 # sectorsize > 1500301909504 # mediasize in bytes (1.4T) > 2930277167 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 182401 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > NA05EA2N# Disk ident. > dmesg: > ugen0.2: at usbus0 > umass0: on usbus0 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 > umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 400.000MB/s transfers > da0: 1430799MB (2930277167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C) > Plugging it in adds only da0, da0s1, and ugen0.2 to /dev > My disk is bigger than what you're dealing with but not the big sector size; > can't say about that difference. I think you also need xhci driver in kernel config. xhci is for USB 3.0. I have a Western Digital My Book Essentials 3 TB USB 3.0 hard drive, and that works with FreeBSD and Linux, but not NetBSD. As far as I know, Linux and FreeBSD are the only open-source OSes that support USB 3.0. But I don't think the motherboard supports directly booting from this USB 3.0. This USB 3.0 hard drive is not recognized when plugged in to USB 2.0 port on the motherboard, but is recognized when plugged in to USB 2.0 port on a USB bracket connected to USB 2.0 headers on the motherboard. This would be useful with NetBSD, and possibly for booting with GRUB2. That Western Digital 3.0 TB USB 3.0 was partitioned with one MBR partition, formatted for NTFS. I needed the System Rescue CD (http://sysresccd.org/) to copy the software files from the CD, and to migrate MBR partition scheme to GPT. Then I deleted the big NTFS partition and added my partitions. FreeBSD sees these partitions as /dev/da0p1, /dev/da0p2 and so on. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On 05/31/12 09:57, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports > > da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 40.000MB/s transfers > da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) > > and > # diskinfo -v da5 > da5 > 4096# sectorsize > 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) > 244190646 # mediasize in sectors > 0 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 255 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > 00A123456789# Disk ident. > > > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r- 1 root operator0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r- 1 root operator0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) > > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever > growing list of > > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > umass2: > on usbus4 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) > umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) > > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? According to the handbook you need all of the following drivers: scbus da pass uhci ohci ehci usb umass Don't know if this helps, but 512K sectorsize on usb 3 seems to work fine here: %diskinfo -v da0 da0 512 # sectorsize 1500301909504 # mediasize in bytes (1.4T) 2930277167 # mediasize in sectors 0 # stripesize 0 # stripeoffset 182401 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. NA05EA2N# Disk ident. dmesg: ugen0.2: at usbus0 umass0: on usbus0 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4100 umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 400.000MB/s transfers da0: 1430799MB (2930277167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C) Plugging it in adds only da0, da0s1, and ugen0.2 to /dev My disk is bigger than what you're dealing with but not the big sector size; can't say about that difference. Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
On 31 May 2012, at 17:57, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello, world\n > > so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. > I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged > to an USB2(two!) reports > >da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 >da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device >da5: 40.000MB/s transfers >da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) > > and > # diskinfo -v da5 > da5 >4096# sectorsize >1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) >244190646 # mediasize in sectors >0 # stripesize >0 # stripeoffset >15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. >255 # Heads according to firmware. >63 # Sectors according to firmware. >00A123456789# Disk ident. > > > (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. > Strangely, I cannot mount it with > # ll /dev/da5* > crw-r- 1 root operator0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 > crw-r- 1 root operator0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 > # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt > mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument > ) > > When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I > don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever > growing list of > >ugen4.2: at usbus4 >umass2: > on usbus4 >ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) >umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) > > The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 > can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for > things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down > quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the > necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is > the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? > > Regards, > >Jens > -- > Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ > SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Logic dictates that you try with GENERIC, see if that works any better ;)___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
How to use an external USB3.0 drive with 4k sectors?
hello, world\n so I decided to try two HW technology advancements in one go. I have a brand new shiny 1TB USB3.0 external disk, that when plugged to an USB2(two!) reports da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 40.000MB/s transfers da5: 953869MB (244190646 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15200C) and # diskinfo -v da5 da5 4096# sectorsize 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (931G) 244190646 # mediasize in sectors 0 # stripesize 0 # stripeoffset 15200 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. 00A123456789# Disk ident. (The vendor, Jmicron, has put an NTFS on it, with a disk manual as a pdf file. Strangely, I cannot mount it with # ll /dev/da5* crw-r- 1 root operator0, 236 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5 crw-r- 1 root operator0, 237 May 31 15:05 /dev/da5s1 # mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/da5s1 /mnt mount_ntfs: /dev/da5s1: Invalid argument ) When I plug it to one of the two USB3.0 ports (using the xhci driver), I don't get device nodes in /dev created for it, but instead an ever growing list of ugen4.2: at usbus4 umass2: on usbus4 ugen4.2: at usbus4 (disconnected) umass2: at uhub4, port 4, addr 1 (disconnected) The USB3.0 ports otherwise work fine with a 16BG USB3.0 Stick. Windows 7 can use the disk as well on the USB3.0 port, which makes me look for things I have missed. For example, my kernel config is stripped down quite a bit, so it might be that my custom kernel does not have all the necessary drivers built in or kldloaded. Do I need "device ada"? What is the magic needed to hook up 4k secotr drives via USB3.0? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
