RE: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

2004-01-17 Thread fbsd_user
Yep those pre Y2K boxes are an real pain in the ass when it comes to
their bios.

it's time to replace your bio's
chip with an modern one.

Check out www.unicore.com   800-800-2467 for new bio chip.
They will give you instruction on how to get the technical info on
your bio chip,
so they can price the replacement.
I have replaced 3 over the past 4 years and each time it cost me
$70.00 each.
This is the only way to extend the life of old PC's.

Good luck

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From: Andy Clements [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

fbsd_user wrote:

Changes to PC Bios before installing FBSD

unfortunately, the BIOS on the machine is from 1997.  It's IBM's
SureBIOS.  I've tried finding a update on IBM's site but no luck.

Virus Warning=, set this option to disable. It's a firmware check
of
the hard drive boot sector looking for MS/Windows boot virus. This
will stop FBSD booting from the install CDROM.

set to disable

plug-n-play=,  set this option to disable. FBSD is not sensitive to
Microsoft plug-n-play standard and may refuse to install, or cause
PCI cards not to be found.

not available on BIOS

Disable or set to auto any Bio's option to assign irq numbers to
PCI
expansion slots.


all set to auto

Disable any ISA expansion slots.


not available on BIOS

Operating system type=, set to 'other' or any Unix type of
operating
system, don't set to MS/Windows.


not available on BIOS

Check to see if the cdrom drive is the slave to the IDE master Hard
drive you are installing to, if so then move the cdrom drive to the
secondary IDE controller as master. There should not be any cdrom
drive sharing the primary IDE controller with the master Hard
Drive.


The HDDs and CDROM are on SCSI, so I don't think they have any IDE
controller.  Anyone can feel free to correct me on this issue if I
am
incorrect.

boot sequence=, set this option to (CDROM,C) Since you are
installing FBSD from CDROM you must tell the PC what I/O device to
look at to boot from. Keep in mind that some older CD-ROMs drives
and older PC bios do not support booting off CD-ROM. Generally with
PC manufactured after 1999 this is not the problem.


BIOS is old so the old boot option I have is floppy.  The SCSI BIOS
had
a boot option, which I tried.  That failed however, and brought
error
codes from the PC BIOS because it moved the floppy drive to B: and
took
over the a: slot.

When FreeBSD attempts to boot the machine, ahc0 driver (for the
Adaptec
AIC-7880 controller) is loaded but throws the weirdest error:
ahc0: Illegal Configuration. Only two connectors on the adapter can
be
used at one time.
which means nothing to me.  Does anyone know what it is asking for?
I
even tried removing the CDROM from the SCSI and booting , but the
same
error appears.

Others have loaded 4.9 on 325 PC Servers, however there is something
about my configuration that is giving the ahc0 driver fits.

again, please cc with your response as I am not on the list.

Thanks,
Andy Clements

original request:

I have IBM 325 PCServer with one 200 Pentium Pro CPU and two SCSI
HDD
drives and a SCSI CDROM.  I'm installing FreeBSD 4.9 via floppy and
it
hangs when it says:

Waiting 15 seconds for drives to settle


I notice that it is accessing the cdrom, during the wait, but
nothing
else happens.  I've checked the mailing list and all I see is to
turn
the bios virus detect off.  It seem that quite a few people are
having
this problem...

any ideas? interrupt problem?



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Re: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

2004-01-16 Thread Mike Galvez
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:49:30PM -0700, Andy Clements wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have IBM 325 PCServer with one 200 Pentium Pro CPU and two SCSI HDD 
 drives and a SCSI CDROM.  I'm installing FreeBSD 4.9 via floppy and it 
 hangs when it says:
 
 Waiting 15 seconds for drives to settle
 
 
 I notice that it is accessing the cdrom, during the wait, but nothing 
 else happens.  I've checked the mailing list and all I see is to turn 
 the bios virus detect off.  It seem that quite a few people are having 
 this problem...
 
 any ideas? interrupt problem?
 
 please CC with your reply as I am not on the list.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Andy Clements
 

I have a couple of 325s with on-board SCSI, SCSI CDROM. Make sure that
your SCSI devices are not set to the same ID as the SCSI card or each
other.



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Re: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

2004-01-16 Thread Andy Clements
Mike Galvez wrote:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:49:30PM -0700, Andy Clements wrote:
 

Hello,

I have IBM 325 PCServer with one 200 Pentium Pro CPU and two SCSI HDD 
drives and a SCSI CDROM.  I'm installing FreeBSD 4.9 via floppy and it 
hangs when it says:

Waiting 15 seconds for drives to settle

I notice that it is accessing the cdrom, during the wait, but nothing 
else happens.  I've checked the mailing list and all I see is to turn 
the bios virus detect off.  It seem that quite a few people are having 
this problem...

any ideas? interrupt problem?

please CC with your reply as I am not on the list.

Thanks in advance,
Andy Clements
   

I have a couple of 325s with on-board SCSI, SCSI CDROM. Make sure that
your SCSI devices are not set to the same ID as the SCSI card or each
other.
 

The HDDs are on SCSI 0 and 1  and the CDROM is on 6.  At least that is 
what the SCSI BIOS is saying.

Upon plying deeper into the problem I noticed that the ahc0 driver 
(which is the correct driver for my Adaptec AIC-7880) is saying that  
that there is an illegal configuration where there are more than two 
controllers attached to the cable (or something to that effect, 
unfortunately the machine is not in front of me).  I remove the CDROM 
from the SCSI cable and still got the same message.  Is there something 
I can do in the kernel configuration that would solve this?  I also 
notice that IRQ15, where the SCSI is attached, is being used by an ATA 
/ATAPI driver.  Is this correct? 

I don't know whether this helps but I've installed FedoraCore1 on this 
same machine with no problem - I would assume this leans towards the 
fact that there may be no hardware/BIOS problem.

Thanks for your help so far!

--Andy Clements
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Re: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

2004-01-16 Thread Andy Clements
fbsd_user wrote:

Changes to PC Bios before installing FBSD

unfortunately, the BIOS on the machine is from 1997.  It's IBM's 
SureBIOS.  I've tried finding a update on IBM's site but no luck.

Virus Warning=, set this option to disable. It's a firmware check of
the hard drive boot sector looking for MS/Windows boot virus. This
will stop FBSD booting from the install CDROM.
set to disable

plug-n-play=,  set this option to disable. FBSD is not sensitive to
Microsoft plug-n-play standard and may refuse to install, or cause
PCI cards not to be found.
not available on BIOS

Disable or set to auto any Bio's option to assign irq numbers to PCI
expansion slots.
 

all set to auto

Disable any ISA expansion slots.
 

not available on BIOS

Operating system type=, set to 'other' or any Unix type of operating
system, don't set to MS/Windows.
 

not available on BIOS

Check to see if the cdrom drive is the slave to the IDE master Hard
drive you are installing to, if so then move the cdrom drive to the
secondary IDE controller as master. There should not be any cdrom
drive sharing the primary IDE controller with the master Hard Drive.
 

The HDDs and CDROM are on SCSI, so I don't think they have any IDE 
controller.  Anyone can feel free to correct me on this issue if I am 
incorrect.

boot sequence=, set this option to (CDROM,C) Since you are
installing FBSD from CDROM you must tell the PC what I/O device to
look at to boot from. Keep in mind that some older CD-ROMs drives
and older PC bios do not support booting off CD-ROM. Generally with
PC manufactured after 1999 this is not the problem.
 

BIOS is old so the old boot option I have is floppy.  The SCSI BIOS had 
a boot option, which I tried.  That failed however, and brought error 
codes from the PC BIOS because it moved the floppy drive to B: and took 
over the a: slot.

When FreeBSD attempts to boot the machine, ahc0 driver (for the Adaptec 
AIC-7880 controller) is loaded but throws the weirdest error:
ahc0: Illegal Configuration. Only two connectors on the adapter can be 
used at one time.
which means nothing to me.  Does anyone know what it is asking for?  I 
even tried removing the CDROM from the SCSI and booting , but the same 
error appears.

Others have loaded 4.9 on 325 PC Servers, however there is something 
about my configuration that is giving the ahc0 driver fits. 

again, please cc with your response as I am not on the list.

Thanks,
Andy Clements
original request:

I have IBM 325 PCServer with one 200 Pentium Pro CPU and two SCSI
HDD
drives and a SCSI CDROM.  I'm installing FreeBSD 4.9 via floppy and
it
hangs when it says:
Waiting 15 seconds for drives to settle

I notice that it is accessing the cdrom, during the wait, but
nothing
else happens.  I've checked the mailing list and all I see is to
turn
the bios virus detect off.  It seem that quite a few people are
having
this problem...
any ideas? interrupt problem?
 

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IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

2004-01-15 Thread Andy Clements
Hello,

I have IBM 325 PCServer with one 200 Pentium Pro CPU and two SCSI HDD 
drives and a SCSI CDROM.  I'm installing FreeBSD 4.9 via floppy and it 
hangs when it says:

Waiting 15 seconds for drives to settle

I notice that it is accessing the cdrom, during the wait, but nothing 
else happens.  I've checked the mailing list and all I see is to turn 
the bios virus detect off.  It seem that quite a few people are having 
this problem...

any ideas? interrupt problem?

please CC with your reply as I am not on the list.

Thanks in advance,
Andy Clements
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RE: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

2004-01-15 Thread fbsd_user
Changes to PC Bios before installing FBSD

Navigate around the Bios menus using the keyboard arrow keys looking
for the following options, your PC bio's may not have all of these.

Virus Warning=, set this option to disable. It's a firmware check of
the hard drive boot sector looking for MS/Windows boot virus. This
will stop FBSD booting from the install CDROM.

plug-n-play=,  set this option to disable. FBSD is not sensitive to
Microsoft plug-n-play standard and may refuse to install, or cause
PCI cards not to be found.

Disable or set to auto any Bio's option to assign irq numbers to PCI
expansion slots.

Disable any ISA expansion slots.

Operating system type=, set to 'other' or any Unix type of operating
system, don't set to MS/Windows.

Check to see if the cdrom drive is the slave to the IDE master Hard
drive you are installing to, if so then move the cdrom drive to the
secondary IDE controller as master. There should not be any cdrom
drive sharing the primary IDE controller with the master Hard Drive.

boot sequence=, set this option to (CDROM,C) Since you are
installing FBSD from CDROM you must tell the PC what I/O device to
look at to boot from. Keep in mind that some older CD-ROMs drives
and older PC bios do not support booting off CD-ROM. Generally with
PC manufactured after 1999 this is not the problem.



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Subject: IBM 325 Server install - hangs on scsi settle

Hello,

I have IBM 325 PCServer with one 200 Pentium Pro CPU and two SCSI
HDD
drives and a SCSI CDROM.  I'm installing FreeBSD 4.9 via floppy and
it
hangs when it says:

Waiting 15 seconds for drives to settle


I notice that it is accessing the cdrom, during the wait, but
nothing
else happens.  I've checked the mailing list and all I see is to
turn
the bios virus detect off.  It seem that quite a few people are
having
this problem...

any ideas? interrupt problem?

please CC with your reply as I am not on the list.

Thanks in advance,
Andy Clements

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