Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-26 Thread BSDjunkie
You could try using SpinRite.

http://www.grc.com

It now works with all filesystems and is up to version
6.

Mark

--- Tuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >   Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on
> IDE test, they won't
> > > replace it. :-/  Guess I just keep backing it up
> until it fails totally.
> > 
> > Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and
> run the hard drive test.  It 
> > ought to see the problems, which you can then
> report back to Dell in order to 
> > get them to do something.
> > 
>   Sorry, I should have mentioned I used the BIOS
> based disk check and
> it passed. Maybe I do need to go to the more
> extensive one.
> 
>   Thanks, Tuc
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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-24 Thread Tuc
> > Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on IDE test, they won't
> > replace it. :-/  Guess I just keep backing it up until it fails totally.
> 
> Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and run the hard drive test.  It 
> ought to see the problems, which you can then report back to Dell in order to 
> get them to do something.
> 
Sorry, I should have mentioned I used the BIOS based disk check and
it passed. Maybe I do need to go to the more extensive one.

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-24 Thread Chuck Swiger
Tuc wrote:
[ ...and SMART status... ]
	So is there something I should do?
Get a new hard drive, this one is not going to live much longer.
Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on IDE test, they won't
replace it. :-/  Guess I just keep backing it up until it fails totally.
Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and run the hard drive test.  It 
ought to see the problems, which you can then report back to Dell in order to 
get them to do something.

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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread Tuc
> 
> Tuc wrote:
> > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
> LBA=11291
> > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
> > LBA=112977803
> > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
> > LBA=112977835
> [ ...and SMART status... ]
> > So is there something I should do?
> 
> Get a new hard drive, this one is not going to live much longer.
> 
Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on IDE test, they won't
replace it. :-/  Guess I just keep backing it up until it fails totally.

Thanks, Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc.
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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread Chuck Swiger
Tuc wrote:
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
LBA=11291
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
LBA=112977803
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
LBA=112977835
[ ...and SMART status... ]
	So is there something I should do?
Get a new hard drive, this one is not going to live much longer.
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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread Tuc
> ### Test 1:
> # smartctl -a ad0 | more
> 
> ### Test 2:
> # smartctl -t offline ad0
> 
> # smartctl -a ad0 | more
> 
> ### Test 3:
> # smartctl -t long ad0
> 
> # smartctl -a ad0 | more
> 
Ok, done. (Oh, BTW, I was having errors like :

ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
LBA=11291
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
LBA=112977803
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 
LBA=112977835


so thought I'd do this too So now I see :

Self-test execution status:  ( 119)   The previous self-test completed having
  the read element of the test failed.

and


SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA
_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   70%  4934 259
34873

So is there something I should do?

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread cpghost
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:18:29PM -0500, David Fleck wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:26:27PM -0500, David Fleck wrote:
> >>Is this likely a one-time thing, or a symptom of creeping disk death?
> >>  (The 'hard error' messages only started after the reboot.)
> >
> >You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools to run S.M.A.R.T.
> >selftests on the drive.
> 
> Thanks - unfortunately, that port is marked IGNORE for my version (4.9). 
> Apparently I need 'ATAng', not sure if I can get that in the 4.x series... 
> I suppose I could try moving to 5.2.x, but I was hoping to put that off a 
> little longer - and I'd like to know my hardware is reliable first, 
> really.

Ouch, sorry. I should've checked that this port worked with 4.x before
writing. My mistake.

You could try your luck with FreeSBIE Live-CD:
  http://www.freesbie.org/
I didn't try it, but AFAICS, it's 5.x-based,
so you should be able to install smartmontools
in the memory-based filesystem that FreeSBIE
creates and then check your disk from that.

Just give it a try. it *may* even work.

> David Fleck
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Regards,
-cpghost.

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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread David Fleck
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:26:27PM -0500, David Fleck wrote:
Is this likely a one-time thing, or a symptom of creeping disk death?
  (The 'hard error' messages only started after the reboot.)
You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools to run S.M.A.R.T.
selftests on the drive.
Thanks - unfortunately, that port is marked IGNORE for my version (4.9). 
Apparently I need 'ATAng', not sure if I can get that in the 4.x series... 
I suppose I could try moving to 5.2.x, but I was hoping to put that off a 
little longer - and I'd like to know my hardware is reliable first, 
really.

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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread cpghost
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:26:27PM -0500, David Fleck wrote:
>  Oct 23 16:58:12 grond /kernel: ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 29926527 of 
>  9843232-9843263 (ad0s1 bn 29926527; cn 1862 tn 214 sn 15) status=59 
>  error=40
> 
> Is this likely a one-time thing, or a symptom of creeping disk death?
>   (The 'hard error' messages only started after the reboot.)
> 

You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools to run S.M.A.R.T.
selftests on the drive.

Try things like this:

### Test 1:
# smartctl -a ad0 | more

### Test 2:
# smartctl -t offline ad0

# smartctl -a ad0 | more

### Test 3:
# smartctl -t long ad0

# smartctl -a ad0 | more

Regards,
-cpghost.

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IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-23 Thread David Fleck
4.9-RELEASE-p11 system.
Experimenting with cdda2wav this morning, I managed to get my system into 
a completely non-responsive state- no keyboard, mouse, or console 
activity; the machine responded to about 20% of ping packets, with 
many-second delays; attempts to ssh into the box failed.  So I 
power-cycled the machine.

After an apparently normal reboot, I noticed I could no longer access 
certain files:

 dcf>$ ls .mozilla/firefox/dcf/bookmarks.html
 ls: .mozilla/firefox/dcf/bookmarks.html: Input/output error
and these errors were accompanied by kernel warnings:
 Oct 23 16:58:12 grond /kernel: ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 29926527 of 
9843232-9843263 (ad0s1 bn 29926527; cn 1862 tn 214 sn 15) status=59 error=40
Other files in /home/dcf were affected, also - many seemed to be related 
to firefox, which had been running when the system froze/was rebooted.

I dropped to single user mode and started fsck - and got the following:
** /dev/ad0s1e
** Last Mounted on /home
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CONTINUE? [yn]
THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 9843232, 
9843233, 9843234, 9843235, 9843236, 9843237, 9843238, 9843239, 9843240, 
9843241, 9843242, 9843243, 9843244, 9843245, 9843246, 9843247, 9843248, 
9843249, 9843250, 9843251, 9843252, 9843253, 9843254, 9843255, 9843256, 
9843257, 9843258, 9843259, 9843260, 9843261, 9843262, 9843263, 9843264, 
9843265, 9843266, 9843267, 9843268, 9843269, 9843270, 9843271, 9843272, 
9843273, 9843274, 9843275, 9843276, 9843277, 9843278, 9843279, 9843280, 
9843281, 9843282, 9843283, 9843284, 9843285, 9843286, 9843287, 9843288, 
9843289, 9843290, 9843291, 9843292, 9843293, 9843294, 9843295,

CONTINUE? [yn]
...many, many times, interspersed with as many kernel errors:
ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 9843238 (ad0s1 bn 9843238; cn 612 tn 181 sn 55) 
status=59 error=40
ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 9843239 (ad0s1 bn 9843239; cn 612 tn 181 sn 56) 
status=59 error=40
ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 9843240 (ad0s1 bn 9843240; cn 612 tn 181 sn 57) 
status=59 error=40
ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 9843241 (ad0s1 bn 9843241; cn 612 tn 181 sn 58) 
status=59 error=40
ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 9843242 (ad0s1 bn 9843242; cn 612 tn 181 sn 59) 
status=59 error=40
ad0s1e: hard error reading fsbn 9843243 (ad0s1 bn 9843243; cn 612 tn 181 sn 60) 
status=59 error=40
...etc.
So I figure somehow I suffered hard drive damage in the system freeze or 
my reboot.  My questions, now, are:

Is this likely a one-time thing, or a symptom of creeping disk death?
  (The 'hard error' messages only started after the reboot.)
If it's one-time, is the disk still usable?  Can I flag the affected 
sectors as bad, and work around them?

How can I best determine the extent of the damage? I'd rather not do a 
manual fsck for a whole afternoon if I can help it.

How best can I recover from the damage?  Many of the affected files appear 
to be in my home directory.  Can I just blow away the entire /home/dcf and 
restore from backup (I think I have those...)?

Thanks in advance for any advice you might have -
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