IDE hard disk recoms
dear list, does someone have some recommondations for IDE hard disks to use in a small server? TIA zheyu -- Sie haben neue Mails! - Die GMX Toolbar informiert Sie beim Surfen! Jetzt aktivieren unter http://www.gmx.net/info ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE hard disk recoms
freebsd_daemon wrote: does someone have some recommondations for IDE hard disks to use in a small server? Sure. I'd pick up a 7200 RPM ATA drive with 8MB of cache, such as the Western Digital WD1200JB. Pick another size (40GB, 80GB, probably through 200GB) if you like. Seagate and Maxtor are also pretty good names; the former tends to be more expensive and higher performing, the latter are quiet, a little slow, but generally reliable and cheap. The IBM UltraStar models are quite good, whereas the DeskStars have dubious reliability, and Quantum made the term stiction famous more than a decade ago with the Q105 SCSI drives that wouldn't spin up, so I wouldn't rely on that vendor either. -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE hard disk recoms
Chuck Swiger wrote: Sure. I'd pick up a 7200 RPM ATA drive with 8MB of cache, such as the Western Digital WD1200JB. Pick another size (40GB, 80GB, probably through 200GB) if you like. Seconded, but id get the sata version and a caddy for a server, makes like easier with changes etc and caddies can be had with extra cooling fans installed which should help lengthen the life of the drive. Seagate and Maxtor are also pretty good names; the former tends to be more expensive and higher performing, the latter are quiet, a little slow, but generally reliable and cheap. I dont know about today but seagate drives used to have real longevity problems years ago (back in my amiga days :)) The IBM UltraStar models are quite good, whereas the DeskStars have dubious reliability, and Quantum made the term stiction famous more than a decade ago with the Q105 SCSI drives that wouldn't spin up, so I wouldn't rely on that vendor either. IBM fixed the problems with the deskstars long ago (with the gxp120) and all the drives since have been known to be reliable drives with good preformance for a nice price, also hitachi own the deskstars now. As for quantum, you've recomended them above :) Maxtor bought quantums hard dive division years ago and most maxtor drives since are basicly quantum designs or derivertives off them :) Mike Woods IT Technician ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE hard disk recoms
Mike Woods wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: Sure. I'd pick up a 7200 RPM ATA drive with 8MB of cache, such as the Western Digital WD1200JB. Pick another size (40GB, 80GB, probably through 200GB) if you like. Seconded, but id get the sata version and a caddy for a server, makes like easier with changes etc and caddies can be had with extra cooling fans installed which should help lengthen the life of the drive. If the original poster has SATA hardware support, definitely, he should take advantage of it. I suspect that he has parallel ATA, though. Also, your comments with regard to extra cooling are well-taken: IBM did some research on drive failure rates, and found that a 10C increase in the temperature of the drive enclosure basicly doubled the number of drive failures experienced after 3 years, or something close to that. Seagate and Maxtor are also pretty good names; the former tends to be more expensive and higher performing, the latter are quiet, a little slow, but generally reliable and cheap. I dont know about today but seagate drives used to have real longevity problems years ago (back in my amiga days :)) Yes, Seagates generally go for three or four years or so and then start showing gradual failures (ie, uncorrectable data errors from bad sectors) which accelerate in frequency until the drive becomes unusable. I've still got a 1GB Micropolis 2112 from 1990 that's in pretty good shape, I wish they were still around. The IBM UltraStar models are quite good, whereas the DeskStars have dubious reliability, and Quantum made the term stiction famous more than a decade ago with the Q105 SCSI drives that wouldn't spin up, so I wouldn't rely on that vendor either. IBM fixed the problems with the deskstars long ago (with the gxp120) and all the drives since have been known to be reliable drives with good preformance for a nice price, also hitachi own the deskstars now. I'd heard about IBM and Hitachi partnering on drives, but I (obviously :-) forgot some of the details. As for quantum, you've recomended them above :) Maxtor bought quantums hard dive division years ago and most maxtor drives since are basicly quantum designs or derivertives off them :) I remember a little about that as well, which was why I was dubious about WD drives two or three years ago when I first started experimenting with their new SE/JB line, but they've proven to be pretty solid devices since. I still wouldn't get a drive with the Quantum brand name on it today, however... -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE hard disk recoms
On Jun 16, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: I still wouldn't get a drive with the Quantum brand name on it today, however... Besides the fact that Quantum got bought by Maxtor, Quantum had several lines, some of which were quite good and some of which were not so good. Quantum had bought DECs drive technology business and their high end drives were basically DEC technology based... I believe that Maxtors, at least the high end SCSI drives, still continue that legacy Chad ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE hard disk recoms
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:40:06 +0100, Mike Woods wrote: I dont know about today but seagate drives used to have real longevity problems years ago (back in my amiga days :)) That was probably before Seagate bought the small disk product line from Imprimis/MPI/CDC. For a while after that it was pretty obvious which Seagate drives had which heritage. My sample space is pretty small. I have bought only a handfull of disk drives in recent years. About half were Maxtor and half were Seagate. My only failure was a Maxtor drive and since it was still under warranty Maxtor FedExed me a replacement within a day or so. I feel pretty good about either brand. I would tend to favor Seagate. (As an aside: I remember when Imprimis announced it was dropping its 8 product line. I asked a salesman why they did that. He explained that data densities were getting too high and asked, Why would anyone want 5 GB on a single spindle?) Dan Strick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
