Re: Incorrect geometry

2005-03-14 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:20:25AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:32:19PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote:
  Kevin Kinsey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mike Loiterman wrote:
   When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying
   the drive geometry is incorrect.  In the next screen, I put in the
   correct geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get
   the same error. 
   
   The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate.  The geometry FreeBSD
   suggests yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly.
   I'm plannning on reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but
   do I need to be conserned about the error? 
   
   Isn't the rest of the error message using a more likely geometry?
   
   IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find
   the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use
   its own.  This would explain the effect you see in the second
   sentence above. 
   
   As yield, slice, and function seems OK, I think go for it!
   is perfectly good advice in this instance.  I've seen the error
   several times, too, and so far so good.
  
  It does say, using a more likely geometry.  The numbers are vastly
  different then what the BIOS says, but as I said, the capacity seems
  correct and it functions normally.
  
  I just don't want to have any trouble down the road...
 
 It shouldn't be a problem.  Geometries nowdays aren't as useful as they
 used to be and aren't really used much, LBA alleviates most of that.
 The geometries that FreeBSD uses aren't the same that the drive
 internally uses.  In fact, using geometries has been the cause of an old
 8 gig limit on hard drives, a newer 137 gig limit, and an old boot
 loader problem booting anything over cylinder 1023.
 
 As for the missing 8 gigs, that's probably because your hard drive
 manufacture used SI units (10^3=1000) instead of the standard units
 (2^10=1024) just to make the number look bigger.  My 250 gig drive is
 only 238 gig in reality.

Back when I installed 5.2 I to got this error. I went along with it, but
this seemed to cause the system to not be able to reboot. This is
proberbly the worst that can happen to you. Somehow I was able to
install it with the orignal setting. Afther this it would reboot.

No when running FDISK Partition Editor from /stand/sysinstall it says:
A geometry of 484521/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect.

But when running fdisk off the shell it says:
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

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Re: Incorrect geometry

2005-03-13 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:32:19PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote:
  
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  When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying
  the drive geometry is incorrect.  In the next screen, I put in the
  correct geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get
  the same error. 
  
  The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate.  The geometry FreeBSD
  suggests yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly.
  I'm plannning on reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but
  do I need to be conserned about the error? 
  
  
  
  Isn't the rest of the error message using a more likely geometry?
  
  IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find
  the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use
  its own.  This would explain the effect you see in the second
  sentence above. 
  
  As yield, slice, and function seems OK, I think go for it!
  is perfectly good advice in this instance.  I've seen the error
  several times, too, and so far so good.
  
  I am willing to be corrected by my betters, though, of course.
  
  Kevin Kinsey
 
 It does say, using a more likely geometry.  The numbers are vastly
 different then what the BIOS says, but as I said, the capacity seems
 correct and it functions normally.
 
 I just don't want to have any trouble down the road...

It shouldn't be a problem.  Geometries nowdays aren't as useful as they
used to be and aren't really used much, LBA alleviates most of that.
The geometries that FreeBSD uses aren't the same that the drive
internally uses.  In fact, using geometries has been the cause of an old
8 gig limit on hard drives, a newer 137 gig limit, and an old boot
loader problem booting anything over cylinder 1023.

As for the missing 8 gigs, that's probably because your hard drive
manufacture used SI units (10^3=1000) instead of the standard units
(2^10=1024) just to make the number look bigger.  My 250 gig drive is
only 238 gig in reality.

 
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Incorrect geometry

2005-03-11 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying the
drive geometry is incorrect.  In the next screen, I put in the correct
geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get the same error.

The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate.  The geometry FreeBSD suggests
yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly.  I'm plannning on
reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but do I need to be
conserned about the error?

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Re: Incorrect geometry

2005-03-11 Thread Kevin Kinsey
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When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying the
drive geometry is incorrect.  In the next screen, I put in the correct
geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get the same error.
The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate.  The geometry FreeBSD suggests
yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly.  I'm plannning on
reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but do I need to be
conserned about the error?
 

Isn't the rest of the error message using a more likely geometry?
IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find
the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use
its own.  This would explain the effect you see in the second
sentence above.
As yield, slice, and function seems OK, I think go for it!
is perfectly good advice in this instance.  I've seen the error
several times, too, and so far so good.
I am willing to be corrected by my betters, though, of course.
Kevin Kinsey
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RE: Incorrect geometry

2005-03-11 Thread Mike Loiterman
 
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 When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying
 the drive geometry is incorrect.  In the next screen, I put in the
 correct geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get
 the same error. 
 
 The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate.  The geometry FreeBSD
 suggests yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly.
 I'm plannning on reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but
 do I need to be conserned about the error? 
 
 
 
 Isn't the rest of the error message using a more likely geometry?
 
 IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find
 the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use
 its own.  This would explain the effect you see in the second
 sentence above. 
 
 As yield, slice, and function seems OK, I think go for it!
 is perfectly good advice in this instance.  I've seen the error
 several times, too, and so far so good.
 
 I am willing to be corrected by my betters, though, of course.
 
 Kevin Kinsey

It does say, using a more likely geometry.  The numbers are vastly
different then what the BIOS says, but as I said, the capacity seems
correct and it functions normally.

I just don't want to have any trouble down the road...

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