Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread sroberts


Thanks for the explanation of the points I raised. For this point you've made:
> The important thing to remember is the -R and -r switches which
> distinguish the entire portupgrade system from make install.  With the
> -R switch, everything that the port depends on will be upgraded *before*
> the port is upgraded.  This solves many problems with meta-ports like
> gnome2.  The problem with make install in a meta-port is that the make
> system is not smart enough to do the portupgrade -R function.

To get this clear (taking for granted that you've written this as you really 
meant), whilst I understand what portupgrade -R does (this has been my 
preferred method of upgrading ports), what effect does portinstall have for 
attempts to install new apps, as against running make install?

Thanks for taking the time.

Stacey


Quoting Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 12:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I'll answer for each point here, if its okay:
> > 
> > > Step 0.  cvsup your ports tree.
> > Ports tree already cvsup'd (three times since yesterday morning)
> > 
> > > Step 0.5  Install portupgrade from /usr/ports/portupgrade.  Learn
> how to
> > > properly use the new tools, especially the -R and -r flags to
> > > portinstall/portupgrade.
> > Portupgrade is already installed ( and I can't upgrade something that
> isn't 
> > already installed, or am I wrong?)
> > 
> > I haven't tried portinstall.., how is this different to running "make
> && make 
> > install clean in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2?
> 
> portinstall and portupgrade are virtually the same thing relative to the
> install first time/upgrade already installed ports.
> 
> The important thing to remember is the -R and -r switches which
> distinguish the entire portupgrade system from make install.  With the
> -R switch, everything that the port depends on will be upgraded *before*
> the port is upgraded.  This solves many problems with meta-ports like
> gnome2.  The problem with make install in a meta-port is that the make
> system is not smart enough to do the portupgrade -R function.
> 
> Embrace portupgrade and all of its attendant stuff like pkgdb,
> pkg_delete, ports_glob and pkg_glob.
> 
> The make system is not good enough.  make deinstall in the make system
> *will not* remove installed executables if you have already done a
> cvsup!  makedeinstall fails more times than it succeeds.  pkg_delete
> works off the /var/db/pkg area.  make deinstall works off the /usr/ports
> area.  There is a difference.  Do not rely on make deinstall.
> 
> That is why I recommended that you read the portupgrade man page and all
> related man pages in order to learn what the entire system of ruby tools
> can do for you.
> 
> /Joe
> 
>  
> > > portinstall -R gnome2
> > Again, I've not tried portinstall for gnome2 either.
> > 
> > Seeing that gnome2 flaked out on the gle error, would "make distclean"
> be 
> > sufficient for removing the bins that got downloaded for this failed
> install?
> > 
> > Thanks for the information here.
> > 
> > Stacey
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > Step 0.  cvsup your ports tree.
> > > 
> > > Step 0.5  Install portupgrade from /usr/ports/portupgrade.  Learn
> how to
> > > properly use the new tools, especially the -R and -r flags to
> > > portinstall/portupgrade.
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 12:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > >Okay.., I'm at the point of considering rebuilding the box
> here.
> > > > 
> > > > Before I do, I'd appreciate though, frank answers to two scenarios
> if
> > > you can..,
> > > > 
> > > > 1] Stop the current re-install of XFree86-4 (with the constant
> > > failings due to 
> > > > components being already installed:-
> > > > 
> > > > Can I stop this re-install?
> > > 
> > > You can stop any re-install at any point.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Is there a procedure for then ensuring that I *copmpletely* wipe
> all
> > > instances 
> > > > of XFree- from the system, before attempting installing
> via
> > > a package?
> > > 
> > > pkg_delete -f 'XFree*'
> > > 
> > > > 2] Seeing that this whole situation is all about my initial failed
> > > attempts to 
> > > > install gnome2,:
> > > > 
> > > > After completion of the XFree86-4 install (via ports or packages),
> > > should I 
> > > > proceed on from the point where the gnome2 install fails (at the
> gle
> > > error)?
> > > 
> > > portinstall -R gnome2
> > > 
> > > > If not, and I have to re-fetch fresh gnome2 sources, is there a
> > > procedure for 
> > > > *completely* removing ALL instances of gnome from the system?
> > > > 
> > > > For both scenarios above, how do I ensure that I get the latest
> > > (hopefully 
> > > > correct) binaries for installation?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again Kevin., Please don't think that I mean to place you
> in a
> > > spot or 
> > > > anything., you're just the *only* person that's bothered to reply
> to
> > > my post on 
> > > > this list.
> > > > 

Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread Kent Stewart



Joe Kelsey wrote:

> Step 0.  cvsup your ports tree.


Don't forget that 0.1 is portsdb -uU after the cvsup.

Kent


> 
> Step 0.5  Install portupgrade from /usr/ports/portupgrade.  Learn how to
> properly use the new tools, especially the -R and -r flags to
> portinstall/portupgrade.
> 
> On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 12:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>Hi Kevin,
>>   Okay.., I'm at the point of considering rebuilding the box here.
>>
>>Before I do, I'd appreciate though, frank answers to two scenarios if you can..,
>>
>>1] Stop the current re-install of XFree86-4 (with the constant failings due to 
>>components being already installed:-
>>
>>Can I stop this re-install?
>>
> 
> You can stop any re-install at any point.
> 
> 
> 
>>Is there a procedure for then ensuring that I *copmpletely* wipe all instances 
>>of XFree- from the system, before attempting installing via a package?
>>
> 
> pkg_delete -f 'XFree*'
> 
> 
>>2] Seeing that this whole situation is all about my initial failed attempts to 
>>install gnome2,:
>>
>>After completion of the XFree86-4 install (via ports or packages), should I 
>>proceed on from the point where the gnome2 install fails (at the gle error)?
>>
> 
> portinstall -R gnome2
> 
> 
>>If not, and I have to re-fetch fresh gnome2 sources, is there a procedure for 
>>*completely* removing ALL instances of gnome from the system?
>>
>>For both scenarios above, how do I ensure that I get the latest (hopefully 
>>correct) binaries for installation?
>>
>>Thanks again Kevin., Please don't think that I mean to place you in a spot or 
>>anything., you're just the *only* person that's bothered to reply to my post on 
>>this list.
>>
>>Stacey
>>
>>Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>
>>>Someone, quite probably , once wrote:
>>>
I'm actually running the re-install of XFree86-4 at the moment wihtout

>>>having 
>>>
done a make distclean. Is this the reason why for each component, it

>>>fails 
>>>
with "error: XFree86-4 already installed, perhaps an older 
version..,"?

Would it be in my interest then to stop this and restart from the

>>>beginning?
>>>
>>>It sounds like everything wasn't quite removed when you deinstalled.
>>>
>>>ls /var/db/pkg | grep -i xfree
>>>
>>>That should show up a few things that might need removing.  Else make
>>>sure your ports tree is fully up to date and then run:
>>>
>>>portversion -L =
>>>
>>>That may show up a few out of date things that could be worth upgrading.
>>>
>>>portupgrade -rR XFree86-4
>>>
>>>The above might resolve a few issues if you are out of date.  Else it
>>>might be worth thinking about packages this time: 
>>>
>>>pkg_add -r XFree86-4
>>>
>>>Will get the latest binary and hopefully get you back to a working
>>>state.  Then you could probably track X using portupgrade to reduce
>>>hassle.
>>>
>>>Kevin
>>>
>>>
Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


>Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
>
>>1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post concerning the
>>
>gnome2 
>
>>install failure, it appear that I have to re-install XFree86-4.2.0.
>>
>>>Why
>>>
>is that 
>
>>after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go out and
>>
>get a 
>
>>fresh set of files for the re-install?
>>
>>Am I missing something about the make process here? Presumably there
>>
>was 
>
>>something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday when I
>>
>installed it, 
>
>>so I would have thought it logical that I should be obtaining a
>>
>>>fresh
>>>
>set of 
>
>>source files for the new install.
>>
>To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
>/usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or
>
>>>just
>>>
>run "make distclean" before "make".
>
>It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to
>
>>>install
>>>
>a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for that
>
>>>port
>>>
>(although not dependencies).
>
>
>>2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was pkg_delete
>>
>>>of
>>>
>XFree86-
>
>>3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing /etc/make.conf
>>
>>>to
>>>
>reflect 
>
>>that the XFree version is now 4
>>
>Since 4.6 I believe the default X has been 4 making such a config
>redundant.  It might be worth running through /etc/defaults/make.conf
>and seeing if you need to change anything else.  If you're not using
>
>>>4.6
>>>
>then don't worry about it.
>
>Kevin
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Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread Kevin Golding

Someone, quite probably S Roberts, once wrote:

>Seeing that gnome2 flaked out on the gle error, would "make distclean" be 
>sufficient for removing the bins that got downloaded for this failed install?

You have to "make deinstall" to remove the binaries you have installed,
"make clean" tidies up the port you're in and "make distclean" tidies up
/usr/ports/distfiles too.

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Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread sroberts
; > > > > 
> > > > > That may show up a few out of date things that could be worth
> > > upgrading.
> > > > > 
> > > > > portupgrade -rR XFree86-4
> > > > > 
> > > > > The above might resolve a few issues if you are out of date. 
> Else
> > > it
> > > > > might be worth thinking about packages this time: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > pkg_add -r XFree86-4
> > > > > 
> > > > > Will get the latest binary and hopefully get you back to a
> working
> > > > > state.  Then you could probably track X using portupgrade to
> reduce
> > > > > hassle.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > > 
> > > > > >Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
> > > > > >> >1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post
> concerning
> > > the
> > > > > >> gnome2 
> > > > > >> >install failure, it appear that I have to re-install
> > > XFree86-4.2.0.
> > > > > Why
> > > > > >> is that 
> > > > > >> >after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go
> out
> > > and
> > > > > >> get a 
> > > > > >> >fresh set of files for the re-install?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Am I missing something about the make process here?
> Presumably
> > > there
> > > > > >> was 
> > > > > >> >something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday
> when
> > > I
> > > > > >> installed it, 
> > > > > >> >so I would have thought it logical that I should be
> obtaining a
> > > > > fresh
> > > > > >> set of 
> > > > > >> >source files for the new install.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
> > > > > >> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each
> tarball or
> > > > > just
> > > > > >> run "make distclean" before "make".
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step
> to
> > > > > install
> > > > > >> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for
> > > that
> > > > > port
> > > > > >> (although not dependencies).
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> >2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was
> > > pkg_delete
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> XFree86-
> > > > > >> >3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing
> > > /etc/make.conf
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> reflect 
> > > > > >> >that the XFree version is now 4
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Since 4.6 I believe the default X has been 4 making such a
> config
> > > > > >> redundant.  It might be worth running through
> > > /etc/defaults/make.conf
> > > > > >> and seeing if you need to change anything else.  If you're
> not
> > > using
> > > > > 4.6
> > > > > >> then don't worry about it.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Kevin
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Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread sroberts


I'll answer for each point here, if its okay:

> Step 0.  cvsup your ports tree.
Ports tree already cvsup'd (three times since yesterday morning)

> Step 0.5  Install portupgrade from /usr/ports/portupgrade.  Learn how to
> properly use the new tools, especially the -R and -r flags to
> portinstall/portupgrade.
Portupgrade is already installed ( and I can't upgrade something that isn't 
already installed, or am I wrong?)

I haven't tried portinstall.., how is this different to running "make && make 
install clean in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2?

> portinstall -R gnome2
Again, I've not tried portinstall for gnome2 either.

Seeing that gnome2 flaked out on the gle error, would "make distclean" be 
sufficient for removing the bins that got downloaded for this failed install?

Thanks for the information here.

Stacey


Quoting Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Step 0.  cvsup your ports tree.
> 
> Step 0.5  Install portupgrade from /usr/ports/portupgrade.  Learn how to
> properly use the new tools, especially the -R and -r flags to
> portinstall/portupgrade.
> 
> On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 12:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Kevin,
> >Okay.., I'm at the point of considering rebuilding the box here.
> > 
> > Before I do, I'd appreciate though, frank answers to two scenarios if
> you can..,
> > 
> > 1] Stop the current re-install of XFree86-4 (with the constant
> failings due to 
> > components being already installed:-
> > 
> > Can I stop this re-install?
> 
> You can stop any re-install at any point.
> 
> 
> > Is there a procedure for then ensuring that I *copmpletely* wipe all
> instances 
> > of XFree- from the system, before attempting installing via
> a package?
> 
> pkg_delete -f 'XFree*'
> 
> > 2] Seeing that this whole situation is all about my initial failed
> attempts to 
> > install gnome2,:
> > 
> > After completion of the XFree86-4 install (via ports or packages),
> should I 
> > proceed on from the point where the gnome2 install fails (at the gle
> error)?
> 
> portinstall -R gnome2
> 
> > If not, and I have to re-fetch fresh gnome2 sources, is there a
> procedure for 
> > *completely* removing ALL instances of gnome from the system?
> > 
> > For both scenarios above, how do I ensure that I get the latest
> (hopefully 
> > correct) binaries for installation?
> > 
> > Thanks again Kevin., Please don't think that I mean to place you in a
> spot or 
> > anything., you're just the *only* person that's bothered to reply to
> my post on 
> > this list.
> > 
> > Stacey
> > 
> > Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > Someone, quite probably , once wrote:
> > > >I'm actually running the re-install of XFree86-4 at the moment
> wihtout
> > > having 
> > > >done a make distclean. Is this the reason why for each component,
> it
> > > fails 
> > > >with "error: XFree86-4 already installed, perhaps an
> older 
> > > >version..,"?
> > > >
> > > >Would it be in my interest then to stop this and restart from the
> > > beginning?
> > > 
> > > It sounds like everything wasn't quite removed when you deinstalled.
> > > 
> > > ls /var/db/pkg | grep -i xfree
> > > 
> > > That should show up a few things that might need removing.  Else
> make
> > > sure your ports tree is fully up to date and then run:
> > > 
> > > portversion -L =
> > > 
> > > That may show up a few out of date things that could be worth
> upgrading.
> > > 
> > > portupgrade -rR XFree86-4
> > > 
> > > The above might resolve a few issues if you are out of date.  Else
> it
> > > might be worth thinking about packages this time: 
> > > 
> > > pkg_add -r XFree86-4
> > > 
> > > Will get the latest binary and hopefully get you back to a working
> > > state.  Then you could probably track X using portupgrade to reduce
> > > hassle.
> > > 
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > >Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > >> Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
> > > >> >1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post concerning
> the
> > > >> gnome2 
> > > >> >install failure, it appear that I have to re-install
> XFree86-4.2.0.
> > > Why
> > > >> is that 
> > > >> >after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go out
> and
> > > >> get a 
> > > >> >fresh set of files for the re-install?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Am I missing something about the make process here? Presumably
> there
> > > >> was 
> > > >> >something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday when
> I
> > > >> installed it, 
> > > >> >so I would have thought it logical that I should be obtaining a
> > > fresh
> > > >> set of 
> > > >> >source files for the new install.
> > > >> 
> > > >> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
> > > >> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or
> > > just
> > > >> run "make distclean" before "make".
> > > >> 
> > > >> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to
> > > install
> > > >> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for
> that
>

Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Weinberger
lding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
> > > > >> >1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post concerning
> > the
> > > > >> gnome2 
> > > > >> >install failure, it appear that I have to re-install
> > XFree86-4.2.0.
> > > > Why
> > > > >> is that 
> > > > >> >after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go out
> > and
> > > > >> get a 
> > > > >> >fresh set of files for the re-install?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Am I missing something about the make process here? Presumably
> > there
> > > > >> was 
> > > > >> >something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday when
> > I
> > > > >> installed it, 
> > > > >> >so I would have thought it logical that I should be obtaining a
> > > > fresh
> > > > >> set of 
> > > > >> >source files for the new install.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
> > > > >> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or
> > > > just
> > > > >> run "make distclean" before "make".
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to
> > > > install
> > > > >> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for
> > that
> > > > port
> > > > >> (although not dependencies).
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> >2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was
> > pkg_delete
> > > > of
> > > > >> XFree86-
> > > > >> >3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing
> > /etc/make.conf
> > > > to
> > > > >> reflect 
> > > > >> >that the XFree version is now 4
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Since 4.6 I believe the default X has been 4 making such a config
> > > > >> redundant.  It might be worth running through
> > /etc/defaults/make.conf
> > > > >> and seeing if you need to change anything else.  If you're not
> > using
> > > > 4.6
> > > > >> then don't worry about it.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Kevin
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Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread sroberts
> > > fresh
> > > >> set of 
> > > >> >source files for the new install.
> > > >> 
> > > >> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
> > > >> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or
> > > just
> > > >> run "make distclean" before "make".
> > > >> 
> > > >> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to
> > > install
> > > >> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for
> that
> > > port
> > > >> (although not dependencies).
> > > >> 
> > > >> >2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was
> pkg_delete
> > > of
> > > >> XFree86-
> > > >> >3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing
> /etc/make.conf
> > > to
> > > >> reflect 
> > > >> >that the XFree version is now 4
> > > >> 
> > > >> Since 4.6 I believe the default X has been 4 making such a config
> > > >> redundant.  It might be worth running through
> /etc/defaults/make.conf
> > > >> and seeing if you need to change anything else.  If you're not
> using
> > > 4.6
> > > >> then don't worry about it.
> > > >> 
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Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Weinberger

if you have sysutils/portupgrade installed, do

~/#  pkg_deinstall -r gnome\*

that will delete anything gnome, and everything built that depends on
it.

-Adam


>> (07.21.2002 @ 1214 PST): [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, in 4.2K: <<
> 
> Hi Kevin,
>Okay.., I'm at the point of considering rebuilding the box here.
> 
> Before I do, I'd appreciate though, frank answers to two scenarios if you can..,
> 
> 1] Stop the current re-install of XFree86-4 (with the constant failings due to 
> components being already installed:-
> 
> Can I stop this re-install?
> Is there a procedure for then ensuring that I *copmpletely* wipe all instances 
> of XFree- from the system, before attempting installing via a package?
> 
> 2] Seeing that this whole situation is all about my initial failed attempts to 
> install gnome2,:
> 
> After completion of the XFree86-4 install (via ports or packages), should I 
> proceed on from the point where the gnome2 install fails (at the gle error)?
> 
> If not, and I have to re-fetch fresh gnome2 sources, is there a procedure for 
> *completely* removing ALL instances of gnome from the system?
> 
> For both scenarios above, how do I ensure that I get the latest (hopefully 
> correct) binaries for installation?
> 
> Thanks again Kevin., Please don't think that I mean to place you in a spot or 
> anything., you're just the *only* person that's bothered to reply to my post on 
> this list.
> 
> Stacey
> 
> Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Someone, quite probably , once wrote:
> > >I'm actually running the re-install of XFree86-4 at the moment wihtout
> > having 
> > >done a make distclean. Is this the reason why for each component, it
> > fails 
> > >with "error: XFree86-4 already installed, perhaps an older 
> > >version..,"?
> > >
> > >Would it be in my interest then to stop this and restart from the
> > beginning?
> > 
> > It sounds like everything wasn't quite removed when you deinstalled.
> > 
> > ls /var/db/pkg | grep -i xfree
> > 
> > That should show up a few things that might need removing.  Else make
> > sure your ports tree is fully up to date and then run:
> > 
> > portversion -L =
> > 
> > That may show up a few out of date things that could be worth upgrading.
> > 
> > portupgrade -rR XFree86-4
> > 
> > The above might resolve a few issues if you are out of date.  Else it
> > might be worth thinking about packages this time: 
> > 
> > pkg_add -r XFree86-4
> > 
> > Will get the latest binary and hopefully get you back to a working
> > state.  Then you could probably track X using portupgrade to reduce
> > hassle.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > >Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >> Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
> > >> >1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post concerning the
> > >> gnome2 
> > >> >install failure, it appear that I have to re-install XFree86-4.2.0.
> > Why
> > >> is that 
> > >> >after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go out and
> > >> get a 
> > >> >fresh set of files for the re-install?
> > >> >
> > >> >Am I missing something about the make process here? Presumably there
> > >> was 
> > >> >something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday when I
> > >> installed it, 
> > >> >so I would have thought it logical that I should be obtaining a
> > fresh
> > >> set of 
> > >> >source files for the new install.
> > >> 
> > >> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
> > >> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or
> > just
> > >> run "make distclean" before "make".
> > >> 
> > >> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to
> > install
> > >> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for that
> > port
> > >> (although not dependencies).
> > >> 
> > >> >2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was pkg_delete
> > of
> > >> XFree86-
> > >> >3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing /etc/make.conf
> > to
> > >> reflect 
> > >> >that the XFree version is now 4
> > >> 
> > >> Sinc

Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread sroberts


Hi Kevin,
   Okay.., I'm at the point of considering rebuilding the box here.

Before I do, I'd appreciate though, frank answers to two scenarios if you can..,

1] Stop the current re-install of XFree86-4 (with the constant failings due to 
components being already installed:-

Can I stop this re-install?
Is there a procedure for then ensuring that I *copmpletely* wipe all instances 
of XFree- from the system, before attempting installing via a package?

2] Seeing that this whole situation is all about my initial failed attempts to 
install gnome2,:

After completion of the XFree86-4 install (via ports or packages), should I 
proceed on from the point where the gnome2 install fails (at the gle error)?

If not, and I have to re-fetch fresh gnome2 sources, is there a procedure for 
*completely* removing ALL instances of gnome from the system?

For both scenarios above, how do I ensure that I get the latest (hopefully 
correct) binaries for installation?

Thanks again Kevin., Please don't think that I mean to place you in a spot or 
anything., you're just the *only* person that's bothered to reply to my post on 
this list.

Stacey

Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Someone, quite probably , once wrote:
> >I'm actually running the re-install of XFree86-4 at the moment wihtout
> having 
> >done a make distclean. Is this the reason why for each component, it
> fails 
> >with "error: XFree86-4 already installed, perhaps an older 
> >version..,"?
> >
> >Would it be in my interest then to stop this and restart from the
> beginning?
> 
> It sounds like everything wasn't quite removed when you deinstalled.
> 
> ls /var/db/pkg | grep -i xfree
> 
> That should show up a few things that might need removing.  Else make
> sure your ports tree is fully up to date and then run:
> 
> portversion -L =
> 
> That may show up a few out of date things that could be worth upgrading.
> 
> portupgrade -rR XFree86-4
> 
> The above might resolve a few issues if you are out of date.  Else it
> might be worth thinking about packages this time: 
> 
> pkg_add -r XFree86-4
> 
> Will get the latest binary and hopefully get you back to a working
> state.  Then you could probably track X using portupgrade to reduce
> hassle.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> >Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
> >> >1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post concerning the
> >> gnome2 
> >> >install failure, it appear that I have to re-install XFree86-4.2.0.
> Why
> >> is that 
> >> >after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go out and
> >> get a 
> >> >fresh set of files for the re-install?
> >> >
> >> >Am I missing something about the make process here? Presumably there
> >> was 
> >> >something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday when I
> >> installed it, 
> >> >so I would have thought it logical that I should be obtaining a
> fresh
> >> set of 
> >> >source files for the new install.
> >> 
> >> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
> >> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or
> just
> >> run "make distclean" before "make".
> >> 
> >> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to
> install
> >> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for that
> port
> >> (although not dependencies).
> >> 
> >> >2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was pkg_delete
> of
> >> XFree86-
> >> >3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing /etc/make.conf
> to
> >> reflect 
> >> >that the XFree version is now 4
> >> 
> >> Since 4.6 I believe the default X has been 4 making such a config
> >> redundant.  It might be worth running through /etc/defaults/make.conf
> >> and seeing if you need to change anything else.  If you're not using
> 4.6
> >> then don't worry about it.
> >> 
> >> Kevin
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Re: Installing gnome2 with XFree86-4 - Why is this so difficilt?????

2002-07-21 Thread Kevin Golding

Someone, quite probably , once wrote:
>I'm actually running the re-install of XFree86-4 at the moment wihtout having 
>done a make distclean. Is this the reason why for each component, it fails 
>with "error: XFree86-4 already installed, perhaps an older 
>version..,"?
>
>Would it be in my interest then to stop this and restart from the beginning?

It sounds like everything wasn't quite removed when you deinstalled.

ls /var/db/pkg | grep -i xfree

That should show up a few things that might need removing.  Else make
sure your ports tree is fully up to date and then run:

portversion -L =

That may show up a few out of date things that could be worth upgrading.

portupgrade -rR XFree86-4

The above might resolve a few issues if you are out of date.  Else it
might be worth thinking about packages this time: 

pkg_add -r XFree86-4

Will get the latest binary and hopefully get you back to a working
state.  Then you could probably track X using portupgrade to reduce
hassle.

Kevin

>Quoting Kevin Golding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Someone, quite probably Stacey Roberts, once wrote:
>> >1] From the *one* reply I've had to my earlier post concerning the
>> gnome2 
>> >install failure, it appear that I have to re-install XFree86-4.2.0. Why
>> is that 
>> >after running pkg_delete on XFree86-4.0.2, "make" doesn't go out and
>> get a 
>> >fresh set of files for the re-install?
>> >
>> >Am I missing something about the make process here? Presumably there
>> was 
>> >something wrong with the XFree86-4 sources I got yesterday when I
>> installed it, 
>> >so I would have thought it logical that I should be obtaining a fresh
>> set of 
>> >source files for the new install.
>> 
>> To fetch new sources you need to remove the old ones from
>> /usr/ports/distfiles.  You can either manually rm each tarball or just
>> run "make distclean" before "make".
>> 
>> It can also be worth running "make fetch" as your first step to install
>> a port as that simply downloads any files you are missing for that port
>> (although not dependencies).
>> 
>> >2] To do the install of XFree86-4 anyways, what I did was pkg_delete of
>> XFree86-
>> >3 in /var/db/pkg; rm -rf /usr/X11R6/*, then editing /etc/make.conf to
>> reflect 
>> >that the XFree version is now 4
>> 
>> Since 4.6 I believe the default X has been 4 making such a config
>> redundant.  It might be worth running through /etc/defaults/make.conf
>> and seeing if you need to change anything else.  If you're not using 4.6
>> then don't worry about it.
>> 
>> Kevin
>> -- 
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