Re: Is my computer under spec?
I've managed to use PC133 ram in an older system with no problems, except I couldn't mix'n'match with the PC100 ram that was already in there as it caused some interesting instabilities. pc133 will clock down with no instability if both chips are of decent manufacture(kingston, micron, samsung) you can get into problems if you're trying to run pc100 at 133 but even then if you use corsair or mushkin, which are designed to be overclocked you can get by. i have many systems that are thrown together running a mix of pc100, 133, and even ecc 133 and they all run stable, although i'm not overclocking any of the 100, just underclocking the 133(and of course, not using ecc) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my computer under spec?
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 00:35, Loren M. Lang wrote: I have been having performance problems with my computer for months, ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1. I thought the situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight improvements. I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer, mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow. At some point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap space. I have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30 gig hd, 256 oh the inhumanity!! This is why you system sucks. It's swapping like mad. Xorg (on my system) weighs in a 50-70 MB, Mozilla will tip the scales in that range easily as well. Xterm-static comes in at 3-5MB each. If programs get killed because of swap space, more ram will save the day. Or more swap space, but in your case I say more ram. Note that X maps the memory of your graphics cards, which means it shows up as using more RAM that it really is. I still have a system with 128 megs of ram, 256 swap, and the only time I've hard problems is when I was running two different versions of KDE. (as in KDE stable on vt 8, and kde-CVS on vt9 while doing compilers and other work) More swap would help. Konqueror seems a little more light weight to me, but you would have to try it to see if it helps for your usage. You can add more ram, but considering the age of that system it really isn't worth the cost. I don't know what that system takes, but in many cases old RAM isn't made anymore, so when you can buy it (supply and demand) you pay far more than it is worth. Either see if someone else has an old system who can send you ram, or spend your money on a new computer. A cheap clearance system may come in at not much more if you shop around. I'd recommend saving my money for the new system. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my computer under spec?
On Monday 01 November 2004 13:33, Henry Miller wrote: You can add more ram, but considering the age of that system it really isn't worth the cost. I don't know what that system takes, but in many cases old RAM isn't made anymore, so when you can buy it (supply and demand) you pay far more than it is worth. Either see if someone else has an old system who can send you ram, or spend your money on a new computer. A cheap clearance system may come in at not much more if you shop around. I'd recommend saving my money for the new system. It depends on the memory, it's probably PC100 or PC133. PC133 is still widely available and an extra 256MB would make a considerable difference. I have a 700MHz P3 with 512 MB, and it's fine for ordinary desktop use. PC100 is harder to find and more expensive. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my computer under spec?
In the immortal words of R. W. [EMAIL PROTECTED]... It depends on the memory, it's probably PC100 or PC133. PC133 is still widely available and an extra 256MB would make a considerable difference. I have a 700MHz P3 with 512 MB, and it's fine for ordinary desktop use. PC100 is harder to find and more expensive. I've managed to use PC133 ram in an older system with no problems, except I couldn't mix'n'match with the PC100 ram that was already in there as it caused some interesting instabilities. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is my computer under spec?
I have been having performance problems with my computer for months, ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1. I thought the situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight improvements. I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer, mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow. At some point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap space. I have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30 gig hd, 256 meg swap. Is my system just under spec for freebsd 5.x or is something else wrong? I didn't really think this should push a system like this that hard. I might try running linux on it in a similar configuration to compare and maybe think about some more ram if it also has problems. -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C pgpKwL6k65Flk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is my computer under spec?
In the immortal words of Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have been having performance problems with my computer for months, ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1. I thought the situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight improvements. I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer, mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow. At some point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap space. I have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30 gig hd, 256 meg swap. Is my system just under spec for freebsd 5.x or is something else wrong? First thing to check is how much ram is being used by the system. the Top command is your best friend in this case, check to see what kind of memory usage each program has. It will also show how much CPU usage they are using. I didn't really think this should push a system like this that hard. I might try running linux on it in a similar configuration to compare and maybe think about some more ram if it also has problems. I would be suspecting RAM is your main bottleneck. Does your hard drive seem to be constantly working? I have 512Mb of ram installed and I'm still using some swap (33%) but I also have quite a number of programs running continuously (firefox, sylpheed-claws, several aterms, xmms,wmweather+, fluxbox-devel and a few other odda sods). I could probably optimise this, but the actual swap appears to be reasonably well managed and doesn't thrash my hard drives. I think you will find the machine is fine, for most things, just needs a little more RAM. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my computer under spec?
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 00:35, Loren M. Lang wrote: I have been having performance problems with my computer for months, ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1. I thought the situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight improvements. I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer, mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow. At some point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap space. I have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30 gig hd, 256 oh the inhumanity!! This is why you system sucks. It's swapping like mad. Xorg (on my system) weighs in a 50-70 MB, Mozilla will tip the scales in that range easily as well. Xterm-static comes in at 3-5MB each. If programs get killed because of swap space, more ram will save the day. Or more swap space, but in your case I say more ram. Is my system just under spec for freebsd 5.x or is something else wrong? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
