Voice Mail required QuickTime
I have a voice mail account with Time Warner Cable. I can access the account from my home telephone, Windows PC, etcetera, but not from my FreeBSD machine. This error message pops up when I try to play the recording on the web site: To play audio online, you must have QuickTime Player installed. How can I make this work from my FreeBSD machine? -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Voice Mail required QuickTime
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:54:34 -0400, Carmel wrote: I have a voice mail account with Time Warner Cable. I can access the account from my home telephone, Windows PC, etcetera, but not from my FreeBSD machine. This error message pops up when I try to play the recording on the web site: To play audio online, you must have QuickTime Player installed. How can I make this work from my FreeBSD machine? Without any experience with the service you've mentioned, I'd suggest using mplayer, because mplayer plays everything. As far as I know, there's also an mplayer plugin for web browsers (probably Firefox) that can be used to play QT content embedded in web pages. Note that this might involve recompiling mplayer with the proper options set, as QT is probably not part of the defaults. (By the way, it's strange that QT is used for this purpose, I would have assumed that the codec of choice would still be MP3...) There's also the libquicktime and openquicktime libraries in ports which _maybe_ allow a better in-browser experience to handle that proprietary format. If the web page to access the service is really that backward oriented that it _requires_ the actual QT player, then I'd say that Time Warner Cable needs a friendly reminder to make the transition to _standard_ HTML-compatible formats that have less restrictions in your rights to use _your_ voice mail - even if it's just a stupid MP3 download or something comparable. Everyone else on the planet can already play audio data via web pages without QT for decades. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Voice Mail required QuickTime
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 01:54:34PM -0400, Carmel wrote: I have a voice mail account with Time Warner Cable. I can access the account from my home telephone, Windows PC, etcetera, but not from my FreeBSD machine. This error message pops up when I try to play the recording on the web site: To play audio online, you must have QuickTime Player installed. How can I make this work from my FreeBSD machine? The chromium browser (/usr/ports/www/chromium) has better multimedia capabilities out of the box. But if you want to keep using firefox, re-build it with the gstreamer option enabled. That will give firefox more capability in handling multimedia. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpZNKJwT1Tvr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: your mail
See http://www.nber.org/prefs/ On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, Upali Kulasekara wrote: Thank you very much for subscribing me for your mailing list. Upali ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail from Charlie
Hi all :-) I use 9.1... I don't known why, from yesterday I didn't received any mail from Charlie :-/ postfix runs perfectly and I don't known how investigate about this problem... Also portaudit should be send an email? thanks for help! Pol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mail from Charlie
On 06/13/2013 11:36 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: Hi all :-) Wow: the combination of your domain name and the subject you chose really made this message look like spam. I use 9.1... I don't known why, from yesterday I didn't received any mail from Charlie :-/ Check that periodic has completed: sometimes it gets stuck when disks fail or filesystems disappear unexpectedly during a security scan or what have you, and the periodic process will hang around in ps forever. postfix runs perfectly and I don't known how investigate about this problem... Check the postfix mail log. I think it defaults to /var/log/maillog ; that will tell you if anything even attempted to send mail. Unless you changed the defaults, cron will kick off periodic daily at 03:00 local time. Also portaudit should be send an email? This should be included in the security run email. thanks for help! Hope this helps! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net cyber...@cyberleo.net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mail from Charlie
The name Charlie is for Charlie Root, i.e. root. Generally it will just be cron messages, unless you get hacked and someone's nice. On 6/13/2013 11:36 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: Hi all :-) I use 9.1... I don't known why, from yesterday I didn't received any mail from Charlie :-/ postfix runs perfectly and I don't known how investigate about this problem... Also portaudit should be send an email? thanks for help! Pol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mail/claws-mail: exporting mail filters?
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 10:11:52 +0200 Herbert J. Skuhra hsku...@eumx.net wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:04:12 +0200 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Since I use on several boxes private and in the deprtment the same email accounts, I'd like to export the mail filters I created and import them to other boxes. I didn't figure out yet how to perform this task on claws-mail. I realized that this is still a point still under construction on close to every platform I used for mailing. Does anyone has an idea? 1. Ask on the claws mailing list? 2. Use a search engine? 3. Search the claws mailing list archive on gmane? 4. Read the claws-mail man page? 5. Copy ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc? Thanks. O. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
mail/claws-mail: exporting mail filters?
I switched from Thunderbird to evolution and have now claws-mail on FreeBSD (Thunderbird coredumps on our OpenLDAP installation since years for now). Since I use on several boxes private and in the deprtment the same email accounts, I'd like to export the mail filters I created and import them to other boxes. I didn't figure out yet how to perform this task on claws-mail. I realized that this is still a point still under construction on close to every platform I used for mailing. Does anyone has an idea? Please CC me, I'm not subscribing this list. Regards, Oliver signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: mail/claws-mail: exporting mail filters?
On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:04:12 +0200 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote: Since I use on several boxes private and in the deprtment the same email accounts, I'd like to export the mail filters I created and import them to other boxes. I didn't figure out yet how to perform this task on claws-mail. I realized that this is still a point still under construction on close to every platform I used for mailing. Does anyone has an idea? 1. Ask on the claws mailing list? 2. Use a search engine? 3. Search the claws mailing list archive on gmane? 4. Read the claws-mail man page? 5. Copy ~/.claws-mail/matcherrc? -- Herbert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail/claws-mail: INBOX shows still moved or deleted mails, filtering not working properly
After a struggle with OpenLDAP and Thunderbird (core dumps all over the place when using Thunderbird with OpenLDAP backed users), I moved to Evolution, which is unsatisfying, since calendar function immediately makes Evolution crahs on all tested FreeBSD platforms (9.1-STABLE, 10.0-CURRENT). I tried mail/claws-mail for now and I'm surprised how cryptic and fast an email client can be, but I also have serious struggles with this email client. When fetch and filtering Emails from the account of our computer center's IMPA4 mail servers, the moved and even deleted emails remain visible (but greyished) in the INBOX or any other folder and marked deleted. Filtered and filter induced moves of mails also are greyed, still visible in the main INBOX of the email account but marked with the flag for new mail in INBOX. I can not delete them from INBOX. This behaviour is odd. I searched Grand Master Google for that and found relatively old bug reports about such behaviour, but that should be solved. I exclude misconfigurations, since I already configured those immediate actions as recommended. Nor Evolution nor thunderbird show that weird behaviour and they operate as expected on all mail actions. Maybe someone could give me a hint what to check. Personally, I consider this behaviour a bug and renders another email client unusable on FreeBSD, but I might be terribly wrong here and still suffer from a configuration inconvenience. Please CC me, I'm no subscriber of both lists. Thanks in advance, Oliver Hartmann ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mail/claws-mail: INBOX shows still moved or deleted mails, filtering not working properly
On Tue, 28 May 2013 09:17:55 +0200 O. Hartmann wrote: I tried mail/claws-mail for now and I'm surprised how cryptic and fast an email client can be, but I also have serious struggles with this email client. When fetch and filtering Emails from the account of our computer center's IMPA4 mail servers, the moved and even deleted emails remain visible (but greyished) in the INBOX or any other folder and marked deleted. ... Nor Evolution nor thunderbird show that weird behaviour and they operate as expected on all mail actions. This is how a traditional IMAP client works, you mark as deleted and manually expunge - and move is done through copy,delete and expunge. In the advanced section of the per account preferences there is a setting that starts Move deleted mails to trash ..., check that you haven't unset that. BTW please don't cross post without a very good reason. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[OT] What's the http://localhost/phpmyadmin mail about?
Many apologies for the off topic post, but my curiosity has got the better of me. Every once in a while we get a post with a subject of http://localhost/phpmyadmin; and no body. What is the point of this - borked mailer, existentialist spam, hacking attempt by a wannabe script kiddie even more clueless than usual, first contact with aliens evolved from web servers? I'm baffled. -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: periodic security always sends output mail
On 03/10/13 03:26, Steve Rikli wrote: I would like to configure periodic on my FreeBSD servers to only send daily/weekly/monthly/security mails (or logs) when there is something important to report. I'm close, but periodic security seems to _always_ send mail, even when there is nothing to report. I suspect the logic is that by always sending a mail, even if it contains nothing important, it means that when you don't get mail you should check to see what happened. Otherwise an attacker could simply prevent periodic security checks to cover up any changes made and you'd just think there was nothing important to report. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: periodic security always sends output mail
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:43:54PM +, Arthur Chance wrote: On 03/10/13 03:26, Steve Rikli wrote: I would like to configure periodic on my FreeBSD servers to only send daily/weekly/monthly/security mails (or logs) when there is something important to report. I'm close, but periodic security seems to _always_ send mail, even when there is nothing to report. I suspect the logic is that by always sending a mail, even if it contains nothing important, it means that when you don't get mail you should check to see what happened. Otherwise an attacker could simply prevent periodic security checks to cover up any changes made and you'd just think there was nothing important to report. You may be correct. It may also be nothing more complicated than security is important, which is hard to argue with. :-) However it appears the logic has changed somewhat in FreeBSD-9 (my 1st example was from an 8.3 server), where the 450.status-security script now sets and resets rc= conditionally, and it seems to behave more closely to my desired behavior, though I need to test a bit. One undesireable thing in the FreeBSD-9 scripts is it appears that if you have daily_status_security_inline enabled, and mask away the daily success info results, the security results are also masked away regardless of security success,info settings. E.g. this config on a FreeBSD 9.1 system: daily_show_success=NO security_show_success=NO daily_show_info=NO security_show_info=YES daily_status_security_inline=YES apparently won't include security info events either, though I'm not sure why not. I'm still tuning and testing to get it set the way I want. Cheers, sr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
periodic security always sends output mail
I would like to configure periodic on my FreeBSD servers to only send daily/weekly/monthly/security mails (or logs) when there is something important to report. I'm close, but periodic security seems to _always_ send mail, even when there is nothing to report. My periodic.conf.local has these pertinent lines (ignore weekly and monthly for now): daily_show_success=NO security_show_success=NO daily_show_info=NO security_show_info=NO This has the desired effect on daily -- no mail unless something has happened. And it _almost_ works for security, but it still sends a nearly-empty report with only this: Security check: -- End of daily output -- That behavior is the same whether security is a separate report or included into daily using daily_status_security_inline=YES. I think the reason is /etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security sets rc=3 after running 'periodic security', and so there's no way to mask the output. Is there some other (preferably supported) means of achieving the goal of no mail or log unless there's something to report? Thanks, sr. -- || Steve Rikli ||| Well, we've stared at it... that oughta || || Systems Administrator ||| fix it! Let's get outta here. || || Genyosha Networks ||| || || s...@genyosha.net ||| - Crow, MST3K || ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
daily otput: rejected mail hosts?
I see in the daily output: Checking for rejected mail hosts: 172 553 check_mail system.mail exist 129 553 check_mail tsvpt014.vpt.co.uk exist 43 553 check_mail unix.dedicated.com.tr exist 43 553 check_mail ubs.net exist 43 553 check_mail localhost.localdomain exist 43 553 check_mail journal-cfp.org exist 43 553 check_mail italiasito.it exist What is that about? Is this described somewhere in sendmail manuals? Thanks Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re-sending selected e-mail messages
I need a way to automatically re-sent stored e-mail messages according to some criteria and like to ask for advice or suggestions for an already existing solution before I start reinventing the wheel. :-) The messages in question are stored in MH format. This is a tree where a mailbox equals a directory, and the individual files in that directory equal the messages. They are numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., and so on. Each message is in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit or maybe even Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit text format. Some of them might contain an attachment, which is included in the file with something like --Multipart=... Content-Type: ...; name=... Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=... Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 --Multipart=...--- Some messages are fully multipart. So when iterating on ~/Mail/sent/1,2,3,4,5,... I get all the messages. Each third line, To:, is the criteria to look at. If it matches a given recipient, the mail should be sent again. This can easily be done by the system's mailer which is properly configured (and uses ISP's MX), so | mail -s maybe new subject is possible. The message should already be properly pre-composed. What is the easiest way to do this without reinventing the wheel, or should I? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re-sending selected e-mail messages
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I need a way to automatically re-sent stored e-mail messages according to some criteria and like to ask for advice or suggestions for an already existing solution before I start reinventing the wheel. :-) The messages in question are stored in MH format. This is a tree where a mailbox equals a directory, and the individual files in that directory equal the messages. They are numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., and so on. Each message is in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit or maybe even Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit text format. Some of them might contain an attachment, which is included in the file with something like --Multipart=... Content-Type: ...; name=... Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=... Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 --Multipart=...--- Some messages are fully multipart. So when iterating on ~/Mail/sent/1,2,3,4,5,... I get all the messages. Each third line, To:, is the criteria to look at. If it matches a given recipient, the mail should be sent again. This can easily be done by the system's mailer which is properly configured (and uses ISP's MX), so | mail -s maybe new subject is possible. The message should already be properly pre-composed. What is the easiest way to do this without reinventing the wheel, or should I? :-) Perhaps mini_sendmail? Seems fairly capable, and scriptable. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re-sending selected e-mail messages
Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I need a way to automatically re-sent stored e-mail messages according to some criteria and like to ask for advice or suggestions for an already existing solution before I start reinventing the wheel. :-) [...] Perhaps mini_sendmail? Seems fairly capable, and scriptable. Or maybe procmail's tools (I'm thinking in particular of procmail, although there are some other bits and bobs that might relate also) would serve the particular selection criteria? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re-sending selected e-mail messages
On Feb 13, 2013 3:49 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I need a way to automatically re-sent stored e-mail messages according to some criteria and like to ask for advice or suggestions for an already existing solution before I start reinventing the wheel. :-) The messages in question are stored in MH format. This is a tree where a mailbox equals a directory, and the individual files in that directory equal the messages. They are numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., and so on. Each message is in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit or maybe even Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit text format. Some of them might contain an attachment, which is included in the file with something like --Multipart=... Content-Type: ...; name=... Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=... Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 --Multipart=...--- Some messages are fully multipart. So when iterating on ~/Mail/sent/1,2,3,4,5,... I get all the messages. Each third line, To:, is the criteria to look at. If it matches a given recipient, the mail should be sent again. This can easily be done by the system's mailer which is properly configured (and uses ISP's MX), so | mail -s maybe new subject is possible. The message should already be properly pre-composed. What is the easiest way to do this without reinventing the wheel, or should I? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I'm working on an email related project, you might hack it to work for you. https://github.com/waitman/elmboxo check out pmess.c it can do a single message. (the easy way to feed pmess a single message is actually to feed the single message to elmboxo as it is coded) anyway its built to stuff them in a mongodb db, but I.m working on a free nosql solution that works for my project. you can just chuck all those bits. an idea. Waitman Gobble San Jose California ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re-sending selected e-mail messages
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:49:13 +0100
From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re-sending selected e-mail messages
I need a way to automatically re-sent stored e-mail messages
according to some criteria and like to ask for advice or
suggestions for an already existing solution before I start
reinventing the wheel. :-)
The messages in question are stored in MH format.
What is the easiest way to do this without reinventing the wheel,
or should I? :-)
procmail is your friend.
cat ~/sent* |procmail -f resendrc
where resendrc is:
emailaddr=f...@bar.baz
:0
*^To: *${emailaddr}
*^Subject:\/.*$
| formail -I Subject: {resend} ${MATCH} | $SENDMAIL -oi -t
Delete the 'formail' if you want the Subject: unmolested.
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How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
Hello, given there is a FreeBSD system with users in the wheel group, what is the best practise to send out a notification via E-Mail if one of them becomes root via su? In an ideal case the E-Mail would contain the user name and the time. I thought about using sudo but this is not in the base system which I would prefer. Kind regards, Matthias -- Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:24:52 +0100, Matthias Petermann wrote: Hello, given there is a FreeBSD system with users in the wheel group, what is the best practise to send out a notification via E-Mail if one of them becomes root via su? In an ideal case the E-Mail would contain the user name and the time. I thought about using sudo but this is not in the base system which I would prefer. I'm not sure if there already is a solution (provided in the base system) that offers this functionality, but the fact of a user having used su to su root is logged by the system. The line is appended to /var/log/messages: Feb 12 14:40:57 r56 su: poly to root on /dev/pts/2 The information you want is in there, and you could either use the whole line, or apply some sed, awk or even perl to form a message with less information (only date and user). A scripted solution could monitor /var/log/messages for changes and use the system's builtin mailer to deliver the message. Tools like tail -f, grep and | mail could be involved. It should be quite trivial to implement this and add a custom rc.d-style script (or even few lines in ye olde /etc/rc.local). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
Polytropon writes: given there is a FreeBSD system with users in the wheel group, what is the best practise to send out a notification via E-Mail if one of them becomes root via su? In an ideal case the E-Mail would contain the user name and the time. I'm not sure if there already is a solution (provided in the base system) that offers this functionality, but the fact of a user having used su to su root is logged by the system. The line is appended to /var/log/messages: Feb 12 14:40:57 r56 su: poly to root on /dev/pts/2 The information you want is in there, and you could either use the whole line, or apply some sed, awk or even perl to form a message with less information (only date and user). A scripted solution could monitor /var/log/messages for changes and use the system's builtin mailer to deliver the message. Tools like tail -f, grep and | mail could be involved. It should be quite trivial to implement this and add a custom rc.d-style script (or even few lines in ye olde /etc/rc.local). Take a look at the -p option of split. The bigger question is how quickly do you need to know - instantly? once an hour? once a day? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com writes: Polytropon writes: given there is a FreeBSD system with users in the wheel group, what is the best practise to send out a notification via E-Mail if one of them becomes root via su? In an ideal case the E-Mail would contain the user name and the time. I'm not sure if there already is a solution (provided in the base system) that offers this functionality, but the fact of a user having used su to su root is logged by the system. The line is appended to /var/log/messages: Feb 12 14:40:57 r56 su: poly to root on /dev/pts/2 The information you want is in there, and you could either use the whole line, or apply some sed, awk or even perl to form a message with less information (only date and user). A scripted solution could monitor /var/log/messages for changes and use the system's builtin mailer to deliver the message. Tools like tail -f, grep and | mail could be involved. It should be quite trivial to implement this and add a custom rc.d-style script (or even few lines in ye olde /etc/rc.local). Take a look at the -p option of split. The bigger question is how quickly do you need to know - instantly? once an hour? once a day? Robert Huff I don't think anything other than instantly makes sense. If it would be a batch thing sent once an hour/day/whatever then an attacker could simply prevent the mail being sent, and/or remove her entry from the log. Furthermore, one should realize that any setup would only be guaranteed to report the first breach/login. In other words: after the first notice that someone logged in as root you can no longer trust that you will get further notices (assuming that the emails safely arrive once they have actually left the system in the first place). Unless you can somehow verify that your notification system/setup was untouched by the person who logged in (e.g. since you were the one that actually logged in as root). Regards, -- - Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
Hi, Allow sudo bash only. Modify .bashrc to mail last entry from the log http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/sample-bashrc.html So you will get alert instantly :-) Peter On 12/02/2013 16:31, Robert Huff wrote: Polytropon writes: given there is a FreeBSD system with users in the wheel group, what is the best practise to send out a notification via E-Mail if one of them becomes root via su? In an ideal case the E-Mail would contain the user name and the time. I'm not sure if there already is a solution (provided in the base system) that offers this functionality, but the fact of a user having used su to su root is logged by the system. The line is appended to /var/log/messages: Feb 12 14:40:57 r56 su: poly to root on /dev/pts/2 The information you want is in there, and you could either use the whole line, or apply some sed, awk or even perl to form a message with less information (only date and user). A scripted solution could monitor /var/log/messages for changes and use the system's builtin mailer to deliver the message. Tools like tail -f, grep and | mail could be involved. It should be quite trivial to implement this and add a custom rc.d-style script (or even few lines in ye olde /etc/rc.local). Take a look at the -p option of split. The bigger question is how quickly do you need to know - instantly? once an hour? once a day? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com writes:
R The bigger question is how quickly do you need to know - instantly?
R once an hour? once a day?
On 12 Feb 2013 15:39:56 +0100, Frank Staals fr...@fstaals.net said:
F I don't think anything other than instantly makes sense. If it would be
F a batch thing sent once an hour/day/whatever then an attacker could
F simply prevent the mail being sent, and/or remove her entry from the
F log. Furthermore, one should realize that any setup would only be
F guaranteed to report the first breach/login.
Yup. I can see two ways around this, and the first one is ugly.
1. Rename su and make it executable only by root, so you can't bypass
the part that handles the email alert:
# mv /usr/bin/su /usr/bin/sulocal
# chmod 700 /usr/bin/sulocal
2. Create a script in a directory accessible only by root:
# cat /root/bin/emailalert
#!/bin/sh
echo root login by `/usr/bin/id -un` | exec /path/to/sendmail -t
exit 1
3. Replace /usr/bin/su with a small setuid C program to call the
script and then run the real su, something like:
main(int argc, char **argv, char **envp) {
system(/root/bin/emailalert);
execve(/usr/bin/sulocal, argv, envp);
exit(1);
}
The second (better) way is to have your logs immediately forwarded to
another host specifically set up for intrusion detection, install a
log-monitoring system there, and send the message from there. This way,
the original logs are more likely to be intact when you investigate.
--
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Some guy just yelled at me for texting and driving. I told him to
get off my hood and mind his own business.
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Re: How to achieve E-Mail Notification on root login?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: Allow sudo bash only. The OP didn't want to use sudo because it's not in the base system. I would guess he also doesn't want to use bash, since it too is not in the base system. [ snip ] -- Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging / ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 10:51 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and yeah, what source tree? It seems that you do not have one. # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade This is very much a binary upgrade. You might have a source tree for 8.3 which is not very helpful now. I do not know if this program is able to fix your problem. I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. I think that you simply do not have one. At least not a current one. Read the handbook how you can get the source tree and then download and compile it. I believe that all other options will end in a re-installation. IIUC I can use mtree to fix the owner for world, I only need to find the smartest solution to fix the owner for software from the ports. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 23:57 -0500, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:24:06AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:24 -0500, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: You can use mtree against the spec files in /etc/mtree/ to check for and fix incorrect permissions and owners on base system files. It won't help with /usr/local, but at least you can get the base straight. As root, from the root directory, something like this: mtree -U -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist There are other spec files in that directory. Poke around. So mtree can't fix /usr/local and poking around without knowledge is asking for trouble :(. /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist is for the whole base? Darn. I just looked and it looks like the stock mtree files just give the permissions of _directories_. They don't give the permissions (and owners) of files. Well, one thing you can do is unpack the OS distribution somewhere else and then use mtree to create a manifest from that. That will also give you a single manifest instead of the multiple ones from /etc/mtree. That's more work than I was hoping but still less than a full reinstall. I've to search the emails, but IIRC there was an option to get the owner from a dump backup. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:51:21 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and yeah, what source tree? It seems that you do not have one. It's rather untypical to check out _only_ kernel sources without the top level content. The tree will probably be complete, but if it hasn't been used yet to create world (and kernel), the /usr/obj cache will be empty, so no quick re-installation for modified binaries (modified in permissions, not in context). # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade This is very much a binary upgrade. You might have a source tree for 8.3 which is not very helpful now. Except freebsd-update also updates the src/ subtree, usually if the default Components src world kernel is kept. So it will probably be the corresponding RELEASE tree. I do not know if this program is able to fix your problem. Probably not, except by a binary update to the same version which can be considered a re-install. I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. I think that you simply do not have one. At least not a current one. Read the handbook how you can get the source tree and then download and compile it. I believe that all other options will end in a re-installation. If this is also to be considered for installed ports, that will probably be the easiest solution. On the other hand, if the amount of work is justified, tracking down the individual defective permissions and manually fixing them could be an option not to go that way, as it will definitely take some time. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:25 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: It's rather untypical to check out _only_ kernel sources without the top level content. For the update from 8.x to 9.1 I even didn't check out the kernel source, this is something I did much later ;). I simply followed the FreeBSD instructions. Perhaps it were binaries, but anyway, IIRC a kernel was compiled?!? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:58:05 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:37:25 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: It's rather untypical to check out _only_ kernel sources without the top level content. For the update from 8.x to 9.1 I even didn't check out the kernel source, this is something I did much later ;). I simply followed the FreeBSD instructions. Perhaps it were binaries, but anyway, IIRC a kernel was compiled?!? That would require kernel sources (and some of the top level files). Probably only a binary kernel update has been performed because that's the purpose of freebsd-update (versus installing from source). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Good morning, if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a single question, at least not for dbus. # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea for a script to do it? Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run make installworld only to reinstall world? Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: Good morning, ood morning? The sun is settling soon! if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a single question, at least not for dbus. # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea for a script to do it? Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run make installworld only to reinstall world? No, you just run it as root. It should work afterword except for currently running programs. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: Good morning, ood morning? The sun is settling soon! The sun of the planet of the ood? Or the former Sun of one of the microsystems? :-) if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a single question, at least not for dbus. # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea for a script to do it? Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. With tools like portmaster, this task can easily be automated. If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the bare ports method (make) is probably the easiest way (in case everything else stays definitely consistent). Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run make installworld only to reinstall world? No, you just run it as root. It should work afterword except for currently running programs. The comment header of /usr/src/Makefile suggests installing the world in single user mode (steps 5 - 11). # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) This should be the safest method. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:58:06 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: Good morning, ood morning? The sun is settling soon! The sun of the planet of the ood? Or the former Sun of one of the microsystems? :-) both Suns are gone now. Only one will return tomorrow morning. if I run 'make deinstall reinstall' for a port, it doesn't ask a single question, at least not for dbus. # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 377744 Jan 18 22:44 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon # cd /usr/ports/devel/dbus ; make deinstall reinstall # ls -l /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 377744 Jan 27 08:55 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea for a script to do it? Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. With tools like portmaster, this task can easily be automated. If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the bare ports method (make) is probably the easiest way (in case everything else stays definitely consistent). I would say that - especially in his case - he will get a working system as he does not want to upgrade a single port. Do I have to reboot into single user mode and then to run make installworld only to reinstall world? No, you just run it as root. It should work afterword except for currently running programs. The comment header of /usr/src/Makefile suggests installing the world in single user mode (steps 5 - 11). I think that installing it in multi-user mode without other users having things running, will work in 99.% of the cases. In his special case, it will work 100% as only the permissions should et changed. # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) This should be the safest method. Isn't it the overkill in his situation? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:28:47 +0100, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: I think that installing it in multi-user mode without other users having things running, will work in 99.% of the cases. In his special case, it will work 100% as only the permissions should et changed. I think so, but I asked, because world might be a more serious issue, than Opera and Jack are. Btw. I even run a complete port upgarde during a X session. I didn't launch apps or did hard work, but kept Opera open. Reading mails become impossible, but writing mails and using the browser was possible all the time. Today I take a rest ;). Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and IIRC it's using the /usr/src directory (I'm booted into Linux at the moment), without a subdirectory /kernel. I can delete the kernel source, since it's IMO fishy to have headers of another revision, than the kernel is, but when I asked, I got a reply, that it should be ok for FreeBSD. However, I never used the kernel source. When I updated I did it like that (without subversion or cvs): # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc make install clean # uname -r 8.3-RELEASE # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade make install clean # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update IDS outfile.ids I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and IIRC it's using the /usr/src directory (I'm booted into Linux at the moment), without a subdirectory /kernel. I can delete the kernel source, since it's IMO fishy to have headers of another revision, than the kernel is, but when I asked, I got a reply, that it should be ok for FreeBSD. However, I never used the kernel source. The content of /usr/src does not only contain the kernel. It's the whole OS, except of course you have only installed selected parts of this tree. The file I've mentioned is at the top of this structure: /usr/src/Makefile contains a short instruction of how to install kernel and world (and explains other possible targets). When I updated I did it like that (without subversion or cvs): # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc make install clean # uname -r 8.3-RELEASE # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade make install clean # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update IDS outfile.ids I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. That's the binary way of updating. If you'd update from source, the steps would usually involve first updating /usr/src (by whatever means, CVS no more, SVN or as part of a binary update that also keeps the OS sources current). To take this approach, the sources have to be complete. You can follow a -STABLE and even -CURRENT (-HEAD) branch if you like. My suggestion would have been: If you have already used this method before, and maybe if your current system has been installed that way, you can do it again; if /usr/obj (the result tree for building world and kernel) is still present, only the make installworld steps would have been involved; even better, if you only have to deal with a few system components, a selective make install would have been sufficient. However, it has already been suggested to utilize mtree, because a real re-installation isn't actually needed (as no files have been changed, only their permissions, and that can be checked and corrected using the /etc/mtree reference files). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
PS: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 01:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc make install clean # uname -r 8.3-RELEASE # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade make install clean # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update IDS outfile.ids And I didn't, still don't understand how to set the BATCH-variable to yes, so it didn't run automatically. # setenv BASH yes Is this correct? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:38:38 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:15:09 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: Is there a command to deinstall and reinstall all ports or an idea for a script to do it? Check portupgrade or one of other utilities to handle ports. There is one option to force an upgrade even if it would be a downgrade. With tools like portmaster, this task can easily be automated. If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the bare ports method (make) is probably the easiest way (in case everything else stays definitely consistent). *?* This is how I updated my ports, after I updated FreeBSD: root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --list-origins ~/installed-port-list root@freebsd:/root # portsnap fetch update root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --check-port-dbdir delete? always y root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -Faf root@freebsd:/root # pkg_delete -a root@freebsd:/root # rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg No backup of files in /usr/local, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc needed. root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg total 9424 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db root@freebsd:/root # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster make deinstall install clean root@freebsd:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` I still had to manually answer yes a million times, when I was asked if something should be deleted or not. I stopped by Ctrl + C, add --no-confirm to the command and run it again. I guess I need to add --force-config -G -y -no-confirm ? Compiling 400, from 800 packages needed 2 day. How do I reinstall all ports [1]? Is recompiling everything needed? Isn't it possible to reinstall everything? Isn't there a cache with all the binaries? Resp. the binaries are already installed ;) and could be copied to a cache, tmp. [1] *?* http://howtounix.info/man/FreeBSD/man8/portmaster.8 *?* Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: If you only will have to handle a few ports, using the bare ports method (make) is probably the easiest way (in case everything else stays definitely consistent). What could become inconsistent without upgrading or downgrading? I didn't update again, I e.g. kept the Chromium version with the security risk, since, as you explained, there's no way to really control dependency issues, when installing security updates. If there should be a valid method I understand, to find out what ports have wrong permissions, it would be nice, but I don't understand what to do, the output I already have is hardly comprehensible and understandable. :) Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 01:46 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and IIRC it's using the /usr/src directory (I'm booted into Linux at the moment), without a subdirectory /kernel. I can delete the kernel source, since it's IMO fishy to have headers of another revision, than the kernel is, but when I asked, I got a reply, that it should be ok for FreeBSD. However, I never used the kernel source. The content of /usr/src does not only contain the kernel. It's the whole OS, except of course you have only installed selected parts of this tree. The file I've mentioned is at the top of this structure: /usr/src/Makefile contains a short instruction of how to install kernel and world (and explains other possible targets). Before I checked out the kernel source it was empty. When I updated I did it like that (without subversion or cvs): # cd /usr/ports/misc/mc make install clean # uname -r 8.3-RELEASE # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade make install clean # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update IDS outfile.ids I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. That's the binary way of updating. The kernel definitively was compiled. If you'd update from source, the steps would usually involve first updating /usr/src (by whatever means, CVS no more, SVN or as part of a binary update that also keeps the OS sources current). To take this approach, the sources have to be complete. You can follow a -STABLE and even -CURRENT (-HEAD) branch if you like. My suggestion would have been: If you have already used this method before, and maybe if your current system has been installed that way, you can do it again; if /usr/obj (the result tree for building world and kernel) is still present, only the make installworld steps would have been involved; even better, if you only have to deal with a few system components, a selective make install would have been sufficient. However, it has already been suggested to utilize mtree, because a real re-installation isn't actually needed (as no files have been changed, only their permissions, and that can be checked and corrected using the /etc/mtree reference files). # umount Linux # mtree -U -f /etc/mtree ? Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:24 -0500, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: You can use mtree against the spec files in /etc/mtree/ to check for and fix incorrect permissions and owners on base system files. It won't help with /usr/local, but at least you can get the base straight. As root, from the root directory, something like this: mtree -U -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist There are other spec files in that directory. Poke around. So mtree can't fix /usr/local and poking around without knowledge is asking for trouble :(. /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist is for the whole base? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi, On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:36:36 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 13:58 +0100, Polytropon wrote: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. 4. can be combined by using the kernel target] # 5. `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster'(you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) What source tree? I only checked out the kernel source using svn and yeah, what source tree? It seems that you do not have one. # freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade This is very much a binary upgrade. You might have a source tree for 8.3 which is not very helpful now. I do not know if this program is able to fix your problem. I wanted to run it tonight, but since I don't know where my source tree is, I can't continue. I think that you simply do not have one. At least not a current one. Read the handbook how you can get the source tree and then download and compile it. I believe that all other options will end in a re-installation. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 08:48 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:15:28 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: Ignore /proc, unmount it even. You don't need it on FreeBSD and shouldn't expect it to be there. As far as I know, Gnome (or at least GDM) _requires_ it to be able to show the available user names. I have no idea why. :-) IIUC not GDM does need it, but GNOME. As for the listings in /usr/local they'll need fixed. On my system, almost everything's owned by root. There are a few exceptions when files are owned by a daemon. As I said, re-installing those parts (or even world) should fix this, but maybe it's possible to apply some mtree magic to fix the owner to the proper one (root in most cases). Rebuilding world only shouldn't take that long. The man directories are owned by man, and /usr/local/libexec/polkit-set-default-helper is set as polkit:polkit. That's a good example for the non-root exceptions; there might be others. There are others on my system, so I can't simply run chown -R :(. Regards, Ralf PS: At the moment I'm booted into Linux, I'll take a look at all the hints later today. Thank you all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 08:49 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:22:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:51:55 +0100, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if my original command ended up breaking your system Don't worry, I run dump to backup it, but I'll try to fix it without restoring it from the backup. Maybe you can read the original owners from that backup and just _change them_ accordingly? As the files haven't been altered, there would be no need to rewrite them entirely. I used dump and can't find how to extract something from the dump files. If I would restore from a dump I would lose something, since the dump is some days old and I worked on my FreeBSD. If it would be possible to write a script that does rebuild everything, with the same configs and _without the need of user interaction_ I would rebuild and if needed update (at least Chromium) everything. But last time there were still yes/no (should I delete this file) questions all the times. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:01:18 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 08:48 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:15:28 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: As for the listings in /usr/local they'll need fixed. On my system, almost everything's owned by root. There are a few exceptions when files are owned by a daemon. As I said, re-installing those parts (or even world) should fix this, but maybe it's possible to apply some mtree magic to fix the owner to the proper one (root in most cases). Rebuilding world only shouldn't take that long. If you still have the /usr/obj subtree where you installed world from last time, you only need to make installworld (as explained in /usr/src/Makefile's comment header). There has also been a very good advice on how to use mtree to do this (as the files don't need re-installation per se, because they haven't changed). The man directories are owned by man, and /usr/local/libexec/polkit-set-default-helper is set as polkit:polkit. That's a good example for the non-root exceptions; there might be others. There are others on my system, so I can't simply run chown -R :(. That's correct. If you can spot those irregularities in /usr/local, it seems to be the safest way to re-install the ports those files belong to. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:11:37 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 08:49 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:22:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:51:55 +0100, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if my original command ended up breaking your system Don't worry, I run dump to backup it, but I'll try to fix it without restoring it from the backup. Maybe you can read the original owners from that backup and just _change them_ accordingly? As the files haven't been altered, there would be no need to rewrite them entirely. I used dump and can't find how to extract something from the dump files. If I would restore from a dump I would lose something, since the dump is some days old and I worked on my FreeBSD. Maybe something along restore -t is possible, as you only would want to extract owner information and nothing more. That information could be used to chown the files which need that change. If it would be possible to write a script that does rebuild everything, with the same configs and _without the need of user interaction_ I would rebuild and if needed update (at least Chromium) everything. But last time there were still yes/no (should I delete this file) questions all the times. Maybe you can do a separate check for /usr/local (installed ports) and everything else (and both excluding /home). The one is cured by the mtree magic (or make installworld in worst case), the other by reinstalling ports that need it (or, if only few files are affected, to check the install directives in the Makefile and do it manually). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi :)
after running '# /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -d /etc /etc/master.passwd' (FWIW
there were no messages)
I can now log in to a user X session by GDM.
The user can't become root using Xfce Terminal Emulator or by ttyv1 (Ctrl
+ Alt + F2). This was possible before I switched the uid.
Before the switch PPPoE was enabled automatically, now I have to do it
manually.
$ su
su: not running setuid
$ ls -l `which su`
-r-sr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 16880 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/su
$ ls -l /home/ | grep rocketmouse
drwxr-xr-x 28 rocketmouse rocketmouse 1536 Jan 25 12:17 rocketmouse
$ ls -l /mnt | grep archlinux
drwxrwx--- 21 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux
$ id
uid=1000(rocketmouse) gid=1000(rocketmouse)
groups=1000(rocketmouse),0(wheel)
Ctrl + Alt + F2
'# ppp -ddial alice' does work
'# find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;' no messages
'# find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;' no messages
Ctrl + Alt + F9
Without success I again read some important messages of this thread in the
archive and googled regarding to the suid issue.
Any hints are welcome!
Regards,
Ralf
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi,
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:05:51 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
after running '# /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb
-d /etc /etc/master.passwd' (FWIW there were no messages)
I can now log in to a user X session by GDM.
this sounds so much better.
The user can't become root using Xfce Terminal Emulator or by ttyv1
(Ctrl
+ Alt + F2). This was possible before I switched the uid.
What happens on a normal TTY?
Ctrl + Alt + F2
So, you can switch to them. Can you try a su here?
'# ppp -ddial alice' does work
'# find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;' no messages
'# find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;' no messages
Ctrl + Alt + F9
Without success I again read some important messages of this thread
in the archive and googled regarding to the suid issue.
Der Wald und die Baeume ...
Erich
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:05:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
The user can't become root using Xfce Terminal Emulator or by ttyv1 (Ctrl
+ Alt + F2). This was possible before I switched the uid.
Before the switch PPPoE was enabled automatically, now I have to do it
manually.
$ su
su: not running setuid
$ ls -l `which su`
-r-sr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 16880 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/su
Erm... that looks horribly wrong.
The permissions indicate that setuid is set, but the file
owner is wrong. For comparison:
-r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14604 2011-08-21 20:24:28 /usr/bin/su*
This program has to belong to root. It seems that your
attempt to reflect UID changes in the file permissions
exceeded the scope of this task: Programs of the OS
seem to be affected, which is definitely not good.
$ ls -l /home/ | grep rocketmouse
drwxr-xr-x 28 rocketmouse rocketmouse 1536 Jan 25 12:17 rocketmouse
You can use ls -ld to omit the grep step. :-)
$ id
uid=1000(rocketmouse) gid=1000(rocketmouse)
groups=1000(rocketmouse),0(wheel)
Seems to be okay.
Ctrl + Alt + F2
'# ppp -ddial alice' does work
'# find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;' no messages
'# find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;' no messages
Ctrl + Alt + F9
I think you can now spot a possible mistake for the file owner
change I mentioned above: Only files inside /home should have
been in the initial scope, but somehow -uid 1001 has been
avaluated true for /usr/bin/su, even though I cannot imagine
what should have caused this.
Do you have other files in /usr or even /usr/local that do
belong to rocketmouse (uid == 1000 or 1001) now? That should
not have happened...
Without success I again read some important messages of this thread in the
archive and googled regarding to the suid issue.
Some programs check by whom they are called or who they
belong to; if that's != root when it is _supposed_ to
be root, that can cause problems, especially when it's
not a simple x (execute), but s (setuid) program like
an X display manager.
Any hints are welcome!
Check for defective permissions. In worst case, update
your system from source or binary to fix permissions.
Maybe there's also an mtree trick to do it.
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi Erich :) On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:25:07 +0100, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: What happens on a normal TTY? Ctrl + Alt + F2 So, you can switch to them. Can you try a su here? Ctrl + Alt + F* will open a ttyv* I can log in as root, but if I log in as user, I can't run su successfully. Der Wald und die Baeume ... Quite possibly that I miss the forest for the trees ;). Regards, Ralf PS: Btw. thank you all for your patience and effort. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:39:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi Erich :) On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:25:07 +0100, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: What happens on a normal TTY? Ctrl + Alt + F2 So, you can switch to them. Can you try a su here? Ctrl + Alt + F* will open a ttyv* I can log in as root, but if I log in as user, I can't run su successfully. Because as you quoted, the su binary doesn't have the UID 0, this means it's not owned by root anymore which may have bad influence on its runtime behaviour. :-) You have: -r-sr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 16880 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/su You should have: -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14604 2011-08-21 20:24:28 /usr/bin/su* As I mentioned in my previous message, somehow the UID change had some strange side effects. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi Ralf, On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:39:07 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:25:07 +0100, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: What happens on a normal TTY? Ctrl + Alt + F2 So, you can switch to them. Can you try a su here? Ctrl + Alt + F* will open a ttyv* I can log in as root, but if I log in as user, I can't run su successfully. It all seems that Polytropon's idea is right. The owner of all system files must be root. Try to set this back. Der Wald und die Baeume ... Quite possibly that I miss the forest for the trees ;). Yeah, the old problem if IT. Regards, Ralf PS: Btw. thank you all for your patience and effort. Do not worry. This is the main advantage of FreeBSD over many other operating systems. The chances are very, verhy high that you will find help when needed. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Thank you all :) everything is ok now. I don't mark the thread as solved, since I still didn't set up Evolution. On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:33:46 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: $ ls -l `which su` -r-sr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 16880 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/su Erm... that looks horribly wrong. The permissions indicate that setuid is set, but the file owner is wrong. For comparison: -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14604 2011-08-21 20:24:28 /usr/bin/su* This program has to belong to root. It seems that your attempt to reflect UID changes in the file permissions exceeded the scope of this task: Programs of the OS seem to be affected, which is definitely not good. IMO setuid alone already is a security risk. $ ls -l /home/ | grep rocketmouse drwxr-xr-x 28 rocketmouse rocketmouse 1536 Jan 25 12:17 rocketmouse You can use ls -ld to omit the grep step. :-) $ ls -ld /home/rocketmouse drwxr-xr-x 28 rocketmouse rocketmouse 1536 Jan 25 13:19 /home/rocketmouse :) I was sure that using grep is stupid and should have done a 'man ls', since 'help' wasn't helpful. This issue and 'cat | grep' instead of grep only are common mistakes by many Linux users. Thank you for the hint. I think you can now spot a possible mistake for the file owner change I mentioned above: Only files inside /home should have been in the initial scope, but somehow -uid 1001 has been avaluated true for /usr/bin/su, even though I cannot imagine what should have caused this. In this case /home and /mnt/*, but I understand what you mean. Do you have other files in /usr or even /usr/local that do belong to rocketmouse (uid == 1000 or 1001) now? That should not have happened... /usr/binis ok /usr/includeis ok /usr/include/* seem to be ok, I just checked some folders /usr/lib and /usr/lib/* are ok /usr/libdata and /usr/libdata/* are ok /usr/libexec and /usr/libexec/*/* are ok /usr/ports is ok /usr/ports/*seem to be ok, I just checked some folders /usr/sbin is ok /usr/share is ok /usr/share/*seem to be ok, I just checked some folders /usr/srcis ok /usr/src/*/*seem to be ok, I just checked some folders /usr/local is ok /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/bin/* are ok /usr/local/bootstrap* and [...]/* are ok /usr/local/etc is ok /usr/local/etc/*seem to be ok, at least PolicyKit and ConsoleKit are /usr/local/include is ok [snip] All /usr/local/* are ok and all /usr/local/*/* seem to be ok. Other directories in /usr and /usr/local are empty. OT: /usr/lib32 and /usr/lib32/* belong to the empty folders in /usr. So FreeBSD is multi arch capable? (since there's /usr/ports/astro/google-earth for amd64, I suspect it is) Some programs check by whom they are called or who they belong to; if that's != root when it is _supposed_ to be root, that can cause problems, especially when it's not a simple x (execute), but s (setuid) program like an X display manager. So I guess I only need to correct the owner for /usr/bin/su. $ ls -l /usr/bin/su -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16880 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/su I wonder if setting suid is needed, while the kit family is installed. For sure it's possible to add a rool to some kit config. Restart PPPoE was enabled automagically :). $ su Password: You have mail. root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # :) Ctrl + Alt + F* will switch to ttyv* and su does work too. :) So the switch to uid 1000 seem to be complete now, without any gaps. On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:57:13 +0100, Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote: Do not worry. This is the main advantage of FreeBSD over many other operating systems. The chances are very, verhy high that you will find help when needed. For Linux it depends to the mailing list. it depends not only to the traffic and kind of list, but also to the kind of people who are subscribed. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
automagically :). You probably have the required magic in /etc/rc.conf. :-) $ su Password: You have mail. root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # :) Ctrl + Alt + F* will switch to ttyv* and su does work too. :) Because su will work everywhere it's supposed to work. :-) So the switch to uid 1000 seem to be complete now, without any gaps. Just to make sure, check with the ls | grep command listed above. Nothing surprising should show up in the result. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:04:14 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: % ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse It's better I umount at least Arch Linux. # cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass /dev/ad4s1b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad4s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad4s1e /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s1f /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s1d /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 proc/proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/ada0s8 /mnt/dump ext2fs rw 0 0 /dev/ada0s9 /mnt/archlinux ext2fs rw 0 0 # umount /dev/ada0s8 # umount /dev/ada0s9 There anyway is an issue, it doesn't show the pass, I checked this with $ ls -lR /home/ | grep -v /home after running $ ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse IOW I get tons of files, but don't know to which directory they belong. PPPoE was enabled automagically :). You probably have the required magic in /etc/rc.conf. :-) Yes, but it wasn't started, when the owner for /usr/bin/su wasn't root. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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PS: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:26:23 +0100, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: There anyway is an issue, it doesn't show the pass, I checked this with $ ls -lR /home/ | grep -v /home after running $ ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse IOW I get tons of files, but don't know to which directory they belong. I guess the output is different for user and root and it does remove the path, but anyway display also contend of /home. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:26:23 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:04:14 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
% ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
It's better I umount at least Arch Linux.
True. :-)
There anyway is an issue, it doesn't show the pass, I checked this with
$ ls -lR /home/ | grep -v /home
after running
$ ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
IOW I get tons of files, but don't know to which directory they belong.
Sorry, that was something I didn't take into mind, you're right.
Maybe this command is more efficient:
# find / -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
It may be a good idea to send the output into a temporary file
and check it when the command has finished. As I said, you will
probably see some false positives, but look for anything
strange in /usr.
PPPoE was enabled automagically :).
You probably have the required magic in /etc/rc.conf. :-)
Yes, but it wasn't started, when the owner for /usr/bin/su wasn't root.
That was to be expected. :-)
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:32:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
PS:
I guess the output is different for user and root and it does remove the
path, but anyway display also contend of /home.
Yes, access permissions matter a lot, so the command should be
run as root.
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:12:15 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
find / -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
-r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 32736 Dec 23 18:38 ssh-agent
-r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 32736 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
^C
A lot of stuff from /tmp is shown without a path, however
root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # ls -l /usr/bin/ssh-agent
-r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 32736 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
but without write permission.
I now run
root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # find / -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v
/home | grep rocketmouse find_1000.txt
and will take a look at it tomorrow.
Thank you :).
Regards,
Ralf
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:41:24 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:12:15 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
find / -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
-r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 32736 Dec 23 18:38 ssh-agent
-r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 32736 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
^C
Definitely to be changed.
A lot of stuff from /tmp is shown without a path, however
That will probably be the false-positives I mentioned.
root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # ls -l /usr/bin/ssh-agent
-r-xr-xr-x 1 rocketmouse wheel 32736 Dec 23 18:38 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
but without write permission.
The permissions haven't change (they're correct), just the
owner is wrong.
For comparison:
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 23428 2011-08-21 20:24:03 /usr/bin/ssh-agent*
The program is installed without the w attribute by default.
I now run
root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # find / -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v
/home | grep rocketmouse find_1000.txt
and will take a look at it tomorrow.
That will be an interesting read. :-)
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2175/file - /usr/local/libexec/gconfd-2 lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2173/file - /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2171/file - /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2166/file - /usr/local/libexec/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2165/file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2164/file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2163/file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2162/file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel/wrapper lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/evolution/2.32/evolution-alarm-notify lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2157/file - /usr/local/libexec/evolution/2.32/evolution-alarm-notify lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/gam_server lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2155/file - /usr/local/libexec/gam_server lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2149/file - /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/xfdesktop lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2145/file - /usr/local/bin/xfdesktop lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/xfsettingsd lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2144/file - /usr/local/bin/xfsettingsd lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/xfce4-panel lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2142/file - /usr/local/bin/xfce4-panel lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/xfwm4 lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2141/file - /usr/local/bin/xfwm4 lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/gpg-agent lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2140/file - /usr/local/bin/gpg-agent lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2137/file - /usr/local/lib/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2135/file - /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2134/file - /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/xfce4-session lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2131/file - /usr/local/bin/xfce4-session lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/bin/ssh-agent lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2125/file - /usr/bin/ssh-agent lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon lr--r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2102/file - /usr/local/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon lr--r--r-- 1 root rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 file - /usr/local/libexec/gdm-session-worker lr--r--r-- 1 root rocketmouse 0 Jan 25 21:14 /proc/2091/file - /usr/local/libexec/gdm-session-worker -- Technology doesn't necessarily make you smarter http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2013-January/000172.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On 1/25/2013 9:12 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:26:23 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:04:14 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
% ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
It's better I umount at least Arch Linux.
True. :-)
There anyway is an issue, it doesn't show the pass, I checked this with
$ ls -lR /home/ | grep -v /home
after running
$ ls -lR / | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
IOW I get tons of files, but don't know to which directory they belong.
Sorry, that was something I didn't take into mind, you're right.
Maybe this command is more efficient:
# find / -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v /home | grep rocketmouse
It may be a good idea to send the output into a temporary file
and check it when the command has finished. As I said, you will
probably see some false positives, but look for anything
strange in /usr.
Since there was a comment about cats, you can also use this.
find / -not \( -name home -prune \) -uid 1000 -or -gid 1000 -ls
Sorry if my original command ended up breaking your system, but at least
you're getting to learn how to fix problems without just wiping and
starting over from scratch. I once was in /tmp and ran rm -rf .* to
delete all hidden directories in /tmp. I realized a problem when it
tried to delete files in /usr that aren't deletable without changing
permissions. I was able to recover and reinstall from /usr/src. The rm
had wiped out /boot.
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On 1/25/2013 3:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It still does list directories in /home :(. This file definitively only is in /home: $ grep find_ find_1000.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root rocketmouse 81920 Jan 25 20:52 find_1000.txt $ ls -ld find_1000.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root rocketmouse 513434 Jan 25 21:14 find_1000.txt Others seemingly are from home too, e.g. [1]. Apart from that there are files in /lib and /usr with a wrong owner I missed before :(. I don't have the leisure to check the whole output right now. I'm just curious, so I had a brief look [1]. Regards, Ralf Ignore /proc, unmount it even. You don't need it on FreeBSD and shouldn't expect it to be there. As for the listings in /usr/local they'll need fixed. On my system, almost everything's owned by root. The man directories are owned by man, and /usr/local/libexec/polkit-set-default-helper is set as polkit:polkit. There's a difference between lib directories and libexec directories. Libraries are stored in lib and programs you're not expected to invoke yourself are stored in libexec. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:51:55 +0100, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if my original command ended up breaking your system Don't worry, I run dump to backup it, but I'll try to fix it without restoring it from the backup. -- Technology doesn't necessarily make you smarter http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2013-January/000172.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:22:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:51:55 +0100, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if my original command ended up breaking your system Don't worry, I run dump to backup it, but I'll try to fix it without restoring it from the backup. Maybe you can read the original owners from that backup and just _change them_ accordingly? As the files haven't been altered, there would be no need to rewrite them entirely. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:15:28 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: Ignore /proc, unmount it even. You don't need it on FreeBSD and shouldn't expect it to be there. As far as I know, Gnome (or at least GDM) _requires_ it to be able to show the available user names. I have no idea why. :-) As for the listings in /usr/local they'll need fixed. On my system, almost everything's owned by root. There are a few exceptions when files are owned by a daemon. As I said, re-installing those parts (or even world) should fix this, but maybe it's possible to apply some mtree magic to fix the owner to the proper one (root in most cases). The man directories are owned by man, and /usr/local/libexec/polkit-set-default-helper is set as polkit:polkit. That's a good example for the non-root exceptions; there might be others. There's a difference between lib directories and libexec directories. Libraries are stored in lib and programs you're not expected to invoke yourself are stored in libexec. Correct. That's why my printer filters are in /opt/libexec. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
I was surpriesed, when Evolution from Linux had no permissions anymore to access the mail folder, after drwxrwx--- rocketmouse wheel was stable for FreeBSD I wasn't aware, that even between Linux only, the folders for mount points share the same permissions, once the partition is mounted, since my Linux users usually share the same uid. I tested it some minutes ago. However, I add a group freebsd (1001) to a Linux and chown/chmod most of the pass without -R option and for the mail directory I used the -R option, now everything _should_ work ... $ ls -hAl /mnt drwxrwx--- 21 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Oct 28 19:11 archlinux but at the end of the pass I noticed this: $ ls -hAl /mnt/archlinux/home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution/mail total 28 drwxrwx--- 3 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:37 1323712251.1853.2@archlinux drwxrwx--- 3 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:13 1353406324.3645.4@q drwxrwx--- 3 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:13 1353606434.360.4@q drwx-- 2 1000 1000 4.0k Jan 24 02:37 1358783158.2173.1@precise drwxrwx--- 17 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:37 local drwxrwx--- 4 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:10 trash drwxrwx--- 2 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:37 vfolder I suspect I write-accessed /1358783158.2173.1@precise with a Linux that has no group 1001? I'll add a group or user 1001 to all Linux and I'll add a user or group 1000 to FreeBSD. If I've done that, could I expect still any issues? Regards Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On 1/24/2013 3:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I was surpriesed, when Evolution from Linux had no permissions anymore
to access the mail folder, after
drwxrwx--- rocketmouse wheel was stable for FreeBSD
I wasn't aware, that even between Linux only, the folders for mount
points share the same permissions, once the partition is mounted, since
my Linux users usually share the same uid. I tested it some minutes ago.
However, I add a group freebsd (1001) to a Linux and chown/chmod most of
the pass without -R option and for the mail directory I used the -R
option, now everything _should_ work ...
$ ls -hAl /mnt
drwxrwx--- 21 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Oct 28 19:11 archlinux
but at the end of the pass I noticed this:
$ ls -hAl /mnt/archlinux/home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution/mail
total 28
drwxrwx--- 3 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:37
1323712251.1853.2@archlinux
drwxrwx--- 3 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:13 1353406324.3645.4@q
drwxrwx--- 3 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:13 1353606434.360.4@q
drwx-- 2 1000 1000 4.0k Jan 24 02:37
1358783158.2173.1@precise
drwxrwx--- 17 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:37 local
drwxrwx--- 4 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:10 trash
drwxrwx--- 2 1000 rocketmouse 4.0k Jan 24 02:37 vfolder
I suspect I write-accessed /1358783158.2173.1@precise with a Linux that
has no group 1001?
I'll add a group or user 1001 to all Linux and I'll add a user or group
1000 to FreeBSD.
If I've done that, could I expect still any issues?
Regards
Ralf
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If you're primarily using Linux and toying with FreeBSD, I'd just change
your uid and gid to match what you use on linux. If your Linux uid is
1000 and your FreeBSD uid is 1001 you'll always have a problem.
Your best bet it to open up and edit /etc/passwd, /etc/master.passwd,
and /etc/group and change all the 1001's to 1000. You should be safe
since the uid is so high. Some programs expect certain things to be a
certain uid, but you should be safe with 1000. You'll have to remember
to chown all the files. Files are stored by the number, the name's for
human. I assume running these two commands should do it.
find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;
find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi all, hi Joshua,
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 16:10 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;
find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;
I made one mistake, when I run find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}'
\; for the fist time, I did it without the :. Later I run it without
the typo.
There's a serious problem now, rocketmouse still is 1001.
.login_conf was '1000 1001', after I chown 1001 it, to start X as
user, it became 'rocketmouse 1001', the user rocketmouse still can't run
a X session anymore.
After rebooting this is the output I get:
# id rocketmouse
uid=1001(rocketmouse) gid=1001 groups=1001,0(wheel)
# ls -hAl /home/ | grep rocketmouse
drwxr-xr-x 28 1000 rocketmouse 1.5k Jan 24 18:14 rocketmouse
# grep 100 /etc/group
rocketmouse:*:1000:
musicpd:*:1002:
# grep 100 /etc/passwd
rocketmouse:*:1000:1000:Ralf:/home/rocketmouse:/bin/sh
musicpd:*:1002:1002:Music Player Daemon:/home/musicpd:/usr/sbin/nologin
# grep 100 /etc/master.passwd
rocketmouse:$1$3mMkzcfl
$VuryrlzFZ92LmaC6cUOa/.:1000:1000::0:0:Ralf:/home/rocketmouse:/bin/sh
musicpd:*LOCKED**:1002:1002:daemon:0:0:Music Player
Daemon:/home/musicpd:/usr/sbin/nologin
I repeated both find-chown several times and rebooted, nothing changed,
it doesn't list any files anymore.
Regards,
Ralf
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi,
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:11:27 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
Hi all, hi Joshua,
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 16:10 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;
find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;
I made one mistake, when I run find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000
'{}' \; for the fist time, I did it without the :. Later I run it
without the typo.
There's a serious problem now, rocketmouse still is 1001.
.login_conf was '1000 1001', after I chown 1001 it, to start X as
user, it became 'rocketmouse 1001', the user rocketmouse still can't
run a X session anymore.
After rebooting this is the output I get:
# id rocketmouse
uid=1001(rocketmouse) gid=1001 groups=1001,0(wheel)
# ls -hAl /home/ | grep rocketmouse
drwxr-xr-x 28 1000 rocketmouse 1.5k Jan 24 18:14 rocketmouse
# grep 100 /etc/group
rocketmouse:*:1000:
musicpd:*:1002:
# grep 100 /etc/passwd
rocketmouse:*:1000:1000:Ralf:/home/rocketmouse:/bin/sh
musicpd:*:1002:1002:Music Player
Daemon:/home/musicpd:/usr/sbin/nologin
# grep 100 /etc/master.passwd
rocketmouse:$1$3mMkzcfl
$VuryrlzFZ92LmaC6cUOa/.:1000:1000::0:0:Ralf:/home/rocketmouse:/bin/sh
musicpd:*LOCKED**:1002:1002:daemon:0:0:Music Player
Daemon:/home/musicpd:/usr/sbin/nologin
I repeated both find-chown several times and rebooted, nothing
changed, it doesn't list any files anymore.
did you run something like?
/usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -d/etc /etc/master.passwd
erich
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Thank you Kevin, thank you Erich, On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 21:10 -0500, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: The correct way to edit the password file is with the vipw command. When you are done with your changes it rewrites the password file AND rebuilds the password database. I'm guessing you have a stale password database now. Use 'vipw' to make a trivial change and then save and exit out. Ok, I used mcedit to make the changes before and will try vipw now, resp. ... On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 10:06 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: did you run something like? /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -d/etc /etc/master.passwd No, I didn't. I assume this is what vipw will do, so I can run this instead of using vipw? Once the information has been verified, vipw uses pwd_mkdb(8) to update the user database. This is run in the background, and, at very large sites could take severa minutes. Until this update is completed, the password file is unavailable for other updates and the new information is not available to programs. - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=vipwsektion=8 Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:11:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Hi all, hi Joshua,
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 16:10 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
find / -uid 1001 -exec chown 1000 '{}' \;
find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}' \;
I made one mistake, when I run find / -gid 1001 -exec chown :1000 '{}'
\; for the fist time, I did it without the :. Later I run it without
the typo.
There's a serious problem now, rocketmouse still is 1001.
You should have been reading my advice about changing the
UID:GID in detail. :-)
What you seem to be missing is a rebuild of the database
that reflects the content of the password files (where you
have properly made the changes 1001 - 1000 in /etc/passwd,
/etc/master.passwd and /etc/group).
The command you're searching for is pwd_mkdb.
.login_conf was '1000 1001', after I chown 1001 it, to start X as
user, it became 'rocketmouse 1001', the user rocketmouse still can't run
a X session anymore.
UIDs and GIDs should match here. All files belonging to rocketmouse
should be 1000:1000 _and_ the name rocketmouse should be
associated to those numerical values (see files mentioned
above).
After rebooting this is the output I get:
Rebooting is _not_ the way to make a probem magically
go away. :-)
# id rocketmouse
uid=1001(rocketmouse) gid=1001 groups=1001,0(wheel)
This means the change of 1001 - 1000 has not been fully done,
in _all_ involved files.
# ls -hAl /home/ | grep rocketmouse
drwxr-xr-x 28 1000 rocketmouse 1.5k Jan 24 18:14 rocketmouse
Here, on file system level, the UID has been changed to 1000
properly, but this UID still doesn't have a matching name.
# grep 100 /etc/group
rocketmouse:*:1000:
musicpd:*:1002:
# grep 100 /etc/passwd
rocketmouse:*:1000:1000:Ralf:/home/rocketmouse:/bin/sh
musicpd:*:1002:1002:Music Player Daemon:/home/musicpd:/usr/sbin/nologin
# grep 100 /etc/master.passwd
rocketmouse:$1$3mMkzcfl
$VuryrlzFZ92LmaC6cUOa/.:1000:1000::0:0:Ralf:/home/rocketmouse:/bin/sh
musicpd:*LOCKED**:1002:1002:daemon:0:0:Music Player
Daemon:/home/musicpd:/usr/sbin/nologin
All correct.
But pwd.db and spwd.db (the password databases with encrypted
content) don't reflect those informations!
I repeated both find-chown several times and rebooted, nothing changed,
it doesn't list any files anymore.
No, repeating what has already been done properly and then
rebooting is, as I said, not a way to make problems magically
go away. I don't know a setting where this should work... :-)
So here's what you need to do: Read man pwd_mkdb and rebuild
the databases.
If you would have used the vipw command to make the change
to the passwd (plain text) files, it would have called pwd_mkdb
after the change. But don't worry: Knowing those low level hacks
can be helpful in some worst-case scenario. :-)
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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 08:03 +0100, Polytropon wrote: You should have been reading my advice about changing the UID:GID in detail. :-) I deleted it by accident from the until now _not_ shared mails, IOW I deleted it from the FreeBSD mails only and missed it, when having a brief look at the mailing list archive. UIDs and GIDs should match here. All files belonging to rocketmouse should be 1000:1000 _and_ the name rocketmouse should be associated to those numerical values (see files mentioned above). Yes, but because I missed to update the database X login asked for 1001. But pwd.db and spwd.db (the password databases with encrypted content) don't reflect those informations! So '# /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -d/etc /etc/master.passwd' is ok, regarding to ... man pwd_mkdb and rebuild the databases. -c and -u switches could be used too, but aren't needed, since the entries are correct. If you would have used the vipw command to make the change to the passwd (plain text) files, it would have called pwd_mkdb after the change. But don't worry: Knowing those low level hacks can be helpful in some worst-case scenario. :-) And then I don't need to use vi, if the default text editor still should be vi. Thank you! Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:51:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Thank you Kevin, thank you Erich, On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 21:10 -0500, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: The correct way to edit the password file is with the vipw command. When you are done with your changes it rewrites the password file AND rebuilds the password database. I'm guessing you have a stale password database now. Use 'vipw' to make a trivial change and then save and exit out. Ok, I used mcedit to make the changes before and will try vipw now, resp. ... That won't make any difference. :-) If your $EDITOR points to mcedit, _that_ editor will be used; afterwards pwd_mkdb will be called and the binary database files will be updated - and your changes will be fine. On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 10:06 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: did you run something like? /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -d/etc /etc/master.passwd No, I didn't. I assume this is what vipw will do, so I can run this instead of using vipw? Yes, because vipw can be seen as a chain editor - validate - update database, involving the lower level programs that you can call yourself any time. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 08:32:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 08:03 +0100, Polytropon wrote: UIDs and GIDs should match here. All files belonging to rocketmouse should be 1000:1000 _and_ the name rocketmouse should be associated to those numerical values (see files mentioned above). Yes, but because I missed to update the database X login asked for 1001. Correct - several programs query that database instead of the plain text files. But pwd.db and spwd.db (the password databases with encrypted content) don't reflect those informations! So '# /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -d/etc /etc/master.passwd' is ok, regarding to ... Yes, use that command. man pwd_mkdb and rebuild the databases. -c and -u switches could be used too, but aren't needed, since the entries are correct. It's not needed to make things that complicated (to selectively deal with entries, for example). The simple thing of # cd /etc # pkd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd should do the trick here. If you would have used the vipw command to make the change to the passwd (plain text) files, it would have called pwd_mkdb after the change. But don't worry: Knowing those low level hacks can be helpful in some worst-case scenario. :-) And then I don't need to use vi, if the default text editor still should be vi. The $EDITOR variable will be honored, and as long as the program is available (and the terminal capabilities apply), it will work as expected. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On 1/21/2013 5:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) I'm sharing the same directory for Evolution emails, by several Linux installs. For e.g. Ubuntu Precise it's Evolution 3.2.3 and for e.g. Ubuntu Quantal it's Evolution 3.6.0. I'm doing it by a link: It looks like to me you're asking for long term trouble. You're using multiple versions, so in the future there could be changes that could corrupt your mail. Why not just use an IMAP server instead? It's what I do, so my mail's shared between FreeBSD, Windows, and Android. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:16:42 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: On 1/21/2013 5:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) I'm sharing the same directory for Evolution emails, by several Linux installs. For e.g. Ubuntu Precise it's Evolution 3.2.3 and for e.g. Ubuntu Quantal it's Evolution 3.6.0. I'm doing it by a link: It looks like to me you're asking for long term trouble. You're using multiple versions, so in the future there could be changes that could corrupt your mail. Why not just use an IMAP server instead? It's what I do, so my mail's shared between FreeBSD, Windows, and Android. That might be overhead, but still the approach contains potential for future trouble, as you correctly pointed out. The reason is simple: While you may not have trouble if all programs use the same mechanism for _storing_ mail (e. g. in mbox, MH or Maildir format), they might store other aspects of communication (read / unread, address books, configuration settings) differently. This should happen _independently_ of the mail storage. As long as all involved programs are the same version, it will probably work without any trouble. But if one program of a newer version decides to rewrite the configuration data in a new (and backwards-incompatible) format, the older versions will definitely run into trouble. I've been using a similar approach in the past, having several GUI and TUI mail clients use the same mail _storage_. Still as you suggest, running a (local) IMAP server may prevent trouble, at least on the long run, and it enables you easier testing for mail clients that do not use the same storage format as your old ones do. Still you can have any storage backend you like, so even plain text work (easily done with MH and Maildir) can be done if required (like grepping through messages or processing them automatically in whatever manner). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On 22/01/2013 05:32, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:31:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 08:18 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: I guess it would be possible to change the id for the existing FreeBSD user and then to chown /home/user_name to fit to 1000? Of course, this would work. But then all existing files of the existing FreeBSD would be without owner. The current user is: rocketmouse The uid is : 1001 Isn't it possible to change the uid to 1000? This would cause that the owner wouldn't be rocketmouse anymore, but still 1001. I then could run chown -R for /home/rocketmouse to switch from 1001 to back to rocketmouse = new uid 1000. You would need to do two changes: First in the password database, with chsh (tidy way) or by editing the /etc/passwd, /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group files plus rebuilding the database with pwd_mkdb (untidy way) to assign rocketmouse = 1000 on FreeBSD. Could you do this with pw(8)? # pw usermod rocketmouse -u 1000 checking first there isn't a uid 1000 already. Then chown -R Chris Then you would also have to promote this change to the file system, as all the files still belong to a user with UID 1001. Use chown -R with the new numerical value of 1000. Result: Your user would have the UID 1000 on all systems, so all the low level functions would behave similarly. Or another idea would be to create a new user with the uid 1000 and then to add rocketmouse to the group of this user. I guess this is what you already recommended. Yes, that would also work. You only have to make sure that group permissions are valid, and the access permission is provided in /etc/group properly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
He already mentioned different major versions, and changing to 5.0 in a few years may need the mail migrated for a new feature. Then there could be trouble. Getting storage away from the client is the most stable. A local cache will likely provide all the new fancy features. Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:16:42 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: On 1/21/2013 5:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) I'm sharing the same directory for Evolution emails, by several Linux installs. For e.g. Ubuntu Precise it's Evolution 3.2.3 and for e.g. Ubuntu Quantal it's Evolution 3.6.0. I'm doing it by a link: It looks like to me you're asking for long term trouble. You're using multiple versions, so in the future there could be changes that could corrupt your mail. Why not just use an IMAP server instead? It's what I do, so my mail's shared between FreeBSD, Windows, and Android. That might be overhead, but still the approach contains potential for future trouble, as you correctly pointed out. The reason is simple: While you may not have trouble if all programs use the same mechanism for _storing_ mail (e. g. in mbox, MH or Maildir format), they might store other aspects of communication (read / unread, address books, configuration settings) differently. This should happen _independently_ of the mail storage. As long as all involved programs are the same version, it will probably work without any trouble. But if one program of a newer version decides to rewrite the configuration data in a new (and backwards-incompatible) format, the older versions will definitely run into trouble. I've been using a similar approach in the past, having several GUI and TUI mail clients use the same mail _storage_. Still as you suggest, running a (local) IMAP server may prevent trouble, at least on the long run, and it enables you easier testing for mail clients that do not use the same storage format as your old ones do. Still you can have any storage backend you like, so even plain text work (easily done with MH and Maildir) can be done if required (like grepping through messages or processing them automatically in whatever manner). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:16:42 +0100, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like to me you're asking for long term trouble. You're using multiple versions, so in the future there could be changes that could corrupt your mail. Why not just use an IMAP server instead? It's what I do, so my mail's shared between FreeBSD, Windows, and Android. I'm doing it for a long time and I only link to the mail directory. I experienced IMAP as a PITA, not only that there would be the need to set up IMAP for each install, I only have one computer, it did cause incompatibilities, not seldom thousands of mails get fetched several times. Sync can cause tons of issues. Keeping mails on the servers of the two providers I'm using (Alice and Rocketmail) is no option. I will fetch emails and delete them on their servers. The only issue with sharing the GNOME email folder is, that GNOME 3 is a broken DE and Evolution 3.6 is buggy, but this also is an issue, if I don't share the email folder. Unfortunately the mail dir format can't be shared with other mail dir MUAs. YMMV! Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:26:18 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:16:42 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: On 1/21/2013 5:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) I'm sharing the same directory for Evolution emails, by several Linux installs. For e.g. Ubuntu Precise it's Evolution 3.2.3 and for e.g. Ubuntu Quantal it's Evolution 3.6.0. I'm doing it by a link: It looks like to me you're asking for long term trouble. You're using multiple versions, so in the future there could be changes that could corrupt your mail. Why not just use an IMAP server instead? It's what I do, so my mail's shared between FreeBSD, Windows, and Android. That might be overhead, but still the approach contains potential for future trouble, as you correctly pointed out. The reason is simple: While you may not have trouble if all programs use the same mechanism for _storing_ mail (e. g. in mbox, MH or Maildir format), they might store other aspects of communication (read / unread, address books, configuration settings) differently. This should happen _independently_ of the mail storage. As long as all involved programs are the same version, it will probably work without any trouble. But if one program of a newer version decides to rewrite the configuration data in a new (and backwards-incompatible) format, the older versions will definitely run into trouble. I've been using a similar approach in the past, having several GUI and TUI mail clients use the same mail _storage_. Still as you suggest, running a (local) IMAP server may prevent trouble, at least on the long run, and it enables you easier testing for mail clients that do not use the same storage format as your old ones do. Still you can have any storage backend you like, so even plain text work (easily done with MH and Maildir) can be done if required (like grepping through messages or processing them automatically in whatever manner). I don't share configurations, filters etc. only the mails and it never did cause an issue. Read and unread always worked. First I let Evolution restore all data from an Evolution backup, Evolution has gut an option to do it, so it will convert all configurations, filters etc., then I delete mail and only link mail. Doing this with e.g. Mozilla MUAs does cause issues, when they are from different versions, but it works flawlessly for Evolution. For older versions of Evolution it wasn't possible to backup and restore everything by an Evolution option, then we had to do a lot of manually work, even when not sharing a folder. Since this is fixed, sharing the mail folder always will work. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi :) perhaps good news for me. That's strange. Now user and group are kept for the mount point of the ext3 fs. Can I assume that this usually should work and that I just had bad luck, when permissions, user and group were automatically changed? root@freebsd:/mnt # ls -l drwxrwx--- 21 1000 1000 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 22 07:09 dump root@freebsd:/mnt # chown rocketmouse:wheel archlinux root@freebsd:/mnt # ls -l drwxrwx--- 21 rocketmouse wheel 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 22 07:09 dump root@freebsd:/mnt # shutdown -r now root@freebsd:/mnt # ls -l drwxrwx--- 21 rocketmouse wheel 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 22 07:09 dump Before I continue with setting up Evolution, I'll take care about it for a few shutdowns and startups. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Hi :) I'm sharing the same directory for Evolution emails, by several Linux installs. For e.g. Ubuntu Precise it's Evolution 3.2.3 and for e.g. Ubuntu Quantal it's Evolution 3.6.0. I'm doing it by a link: root@precise:~# ls -l /home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution lrwxrwxrwx 1 spinymouse spinymouse58 Apr 28 2012 mail - /mnt/archlinux/home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution/mail I would like to share it with Evolution from my FreeBSD install, but there's an issue regarding to permissions. For FreeBSD I don't have control about the permissions of the mounted Linux ext3 partitions. I get: root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # ls -l /mnt drwxrwx--- 21 1000 1000 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 20 20:09 dump The user is able to access /dump, but only /root can access /archlinux. The uid of the FreeBSD user is 1001. I wonder why for /archlinux I get rwxrwx--- and for /dump rwxrwxrwx, those permissions, user and group will be changed automatically. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi, On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:33:49 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # ls -l /mnt drwxrwx--- 21 1000 1000 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 20 20:09 dump it seems that you do not have a user with the id 1000 on this machine. Create one and that user will be able to access it. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 07:31 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:33:49 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # ls -l /mnt drwxrwx--- 21 1000 1000 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 20 20:09 dump it seems that you do not have a user with the id 1000 on this machine. Create one and that user will be able to access it. Hallo Erich :) correct, as already mentioned, the uid of the FreeBSD user is 1001. Why doesn't change chown the user and group, why do I get ---? I'll try it again, perhaps it was voodoo ;). Assumed it wasn't voodoo, is there no way to get consistent rwx permissions for others or to get a consistent group wheel instead of 1000? Why do I get those permissions, owner and group automatically? And why does it differ to what I get for /dump? I guess it would be possible to change the id for the existing FreeBSD user and then to chown /home/user_name to fit to 1000? Ciao, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hallo Ralf, On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:53:52 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 07:31 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:33:49 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: root@freebsd:/usr/home/rocketmouse # ls -l /mnt drwxrwx--- 21 1000 1000 4096 Oct 28 19:11 archlinux drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 4096 Jan 20 20:09 dump it seems that you do not have a user with the id 1000 on this machine. Create one and that user will be able to access it. Hallo Erich :) correct, as already mentioned, the uid of the FreeBSD user is 1001. Why doesn't change chown the user and group, why do I get ---? I'll try it again, perhaps it was voodoo ;). Assumed it wasn't voodoo, is there no way to get consistent rwx permissions for others or to get a consistent group wheel instead of 1000? Why do I get those permissions, owner and group automatically? And why does it differ to what I get for /dump? root and wheel have the ID 0. All other IDs are more or less randomly used. I use scripts on my systems to have always the same IDs. I guess it would be possible to change the id for the existing FreeBSD user and then to chown /home/user_name to fit to 1000? Of course, this would work. But then all existing files of the existing FreeBSD would be without owner. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 08:18 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: I guess it would be possible to change the id for the existing FreeBSD user and then to chown /home/user_name to fit to 1000? Of course, this would work. But then all existing files of the existing FreeBSD would be without owner. The current user is: rocketmouse The uid is : 1001 Isn't it possible to change the uid to 1000? This would cause that the owner wouldn't be rocketmouse anymore, but still 1001. I then could run chown -R for /home/rocketmouse to switch from 1001 to back to rocketmouse = new uid 1000. Or another idea would be to create a new user with the uid 1000 and then to add rocketmouse to the group of this user. I guess this is what you already recommended. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
Hi, On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:31:11 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 08:18 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: I guess it would be possible to change the id for the existing FreeBSD user and then to chown /home/user_name to fit to 1000? Of course, this would work. But then all existing files of the existing FreeBSD would be without owner. The current user is: rocketmouse The uid is : 1001 Isn't it possible to change the uid to 1000? This would cause that the owner wouldn't be rocketmouse anymore, but still 1001. I then could run chown -R for /home/rocketmouse to switch from 1001 to back to rocketmouse = new uid 1000. Or another idea would be to create a new user with the uid 1000 and then to add rocketmouse to the group of this user. I guess this is what you already recommended. yes, this is what I would do. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:31:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 08:18 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: I guess it would be possible to change the id for the existing FreeBSD user and then to chown /home/user_name to fit to 1000? Of course, this would work. But then all existing files of the existing FreeBSD would be without owner. The current user is: rocketmouse The uid is : 1001 Isn't it possible to change the uid to 1000? This would cause that the owner wouldn't be rocketmouse anymore, but still 1001. I then could run chown -R for /home/rocketmouse to switch from 1001 to back to rocketmouse = new uid 1000. You would need to do two changes: First in the password database, with chsh (tidy way) or by editing the /etc/passwd, /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group files plus rebuilding the database with pwd_mkdb (untidy way) to assign rocketmouse = 1000 on FreeBSD. Then you would also have to promote this change to the file system, as all the files still belong to a user with UID 1001. Use chown -R with the new numerical value of 1000. Result: Your user would have the UID 1000 on all systems, so all the low level functions would behave similarly. Or another idea would be to create a new user with the uid 1000 and then to add rocketmouse to the group of this user. I guess this is what you already recommended. Yes, that would also work. You only have to make sure that group permissions are valid, and the access permission is provided in /etc/group properly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Claws Mail
Hi :) does anybody know how to set up Claws Mail to use POP/SMTP with Yahoo/Rocketmail? I was able to set up Opera for FreeBSD, the settings are pop.mail.yahoo.com , port 995, secure connection TLS enabled, Auto (Plaintext) and sntp.mail.yahoo.com, port 465, secure connection TLS enabled, Auto (AUTH LOGIN). On Linux I am using Evolution with pop.mail.yahoo.com , port 995, SSL on a dedicated port and sntp.mail.yahoo.com, port 465, server requires authentication enabled, SSL on a dedicated port, Login. Regarding to the settings Claws Mail is able to contact the server, but it can not send or retrieve messages. Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bad gpg signature on 9.1 announcement mail?
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Bad gpg signature on 9.1 announcement mail?
Anyone else having trouble verifying the signature on the announcement mail? If your's works, can you inline a base64 encoded version of the verified message text so I can see what's wrong with my verifier? Thanks. gpg --verify msg.txt.asc msg.txt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail, mpack and aliases
I'm trying to use converters/mpack to send attachments. It doesn't seem to know anything about mail(1) aliases. I tried to save mpack output to a file with -o option, and then read this file into a mail message, e.g. with ~r. However, this doesn't seem to work. The attachment is not recognised as such and is just displayed as part of the body text. I think it's because there's an empty line between the mail header and the mime header produced by mpack. So how can I use mpack and my mail aliases? Thanks Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail(1) ~R and REPLYTO
mail(1) man page says: ~R string Use string as the Reply-To field. However, this doesn't seem to work for me. Hitting ~R doesn't have any effect at all. The man page also has: REPLYTO If set, will be used to initialize the Reply-To field for outgo- ing messages. This does work fine. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks Anton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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