Re: National Security Backdoor in telnetd - all versions.
On 08/26/03 01:04 PM, Lucas Holt sat at the `puter and typed: > Even if this is true, who has telnet open anymore? Thats like saying > there is a back door in WOW (the 16bit compatibility mode of Winnt to > run win 3.x apps). > > I'd like to see REAL proof of this. Different file sizes don't prove > anything. When I compile freebsd, i have certain optimization flags > set for the compiler as well as settings for 6x86 cpus. That makes the > file size different too! In order to prove anything, you would have to > compile the code in the exact same way it is built for FreeBSD > releases. In reality, only the source code "changes" would prove it. > I'm not above conspiracy theories, but this seems far fetched. Not to mention the exact same CPU, compiler version, etc.. But even so, none of it would matter unless the hole itself were identified. I can tell you theres a secret door in the back of the White House all I want, but until I show you the door, and how it opens and is hidden, my word means absolutely nothing. And I'd bet a nickel there is no such proof. I'm the last person to believe the government doesn't lie to us, history has told us again and again that governments lie to their people. I just don't credit them with the intelligence and organizational ability to pull something like this off without it being made public with details. Anyone wanting to respond to this thread and keep feeding the troll, I recommend browsing this guys site first. Can you say 'paranoia'? How about 'highly impressionable' or 'overactive imagination' . . . And yeah, who the hell leaves telnetd open anymore? I plain delete the damn thing when I notice it's sneaked back in with an upgrade. L -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ The best diplomat I know is a fully activated phaser bank. -- Scotty ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: National Security Backdoor in telnetd - all versions.
Even if this is true, who has telnet open anymore? Thats like saying there is a back door in WOW (the 16bit compatibility mode of Winnt to run win 3.x apps). I'd like to see REAL proof of this. Different file sizes don't prove anything. When I compile freebsd, i have certain optimization flags set for the compiler as well as settings for 6x86 cpus. That makes the file size different too! In order to prove anything, you would have to compile the code in the exact same way it is built for FreeBSD releases. In reality, only the source code "changes" would prove it. I'm not above conspiracy theories, but this seems far fetched. On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 12:18 PM, David Landgren wrote: Joshua Oreman wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:22:12PM -0400 or thereabouts, Kevin shampoo Nadeau wrote: Hello [ ... ] telnetd is infected with a national security backdoor in all non-source compiled versions of FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. If you download the source code for telnetd and compile it to compare the file size of the "stock" or "out of the box" version of telnetd versus the source-compiled version - you will clearly see a difference - which is the backdoor. This information should be forwarded to CERN and the BSD and Linux development teams. [ ... ] Please don't feed the troll. The size difference is in "stripped" vs "non-stripped", btw. telnetd eh? how... quaint :) David ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: National Security Backdoor in telnetd - all versions.
Joshua Oreman wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:22:12PM -0400 or thereabouts, Kevin shampoo Nadeau wrote: Hello [ ... ] telnetd is infected with a national security backdoor in all non-source compiled versions of FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. If you download the source code for telnetd and compile it to compare the file size of the "stock" or "out of the box" version of telnetd versus the source-compiled version - you will clearly see a difference - which is the backdoor. This information should be forwarded to CERN and the BSD and Linux development teams. [ ... ] Please don't feed the troll. The size difference is in "stripped" vs "non-stripped", btw. telnetd eh? how... quaint :) David ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: National Security Backdoor in telnetd - all versions.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:22:12PM -0400 or thereabouts, Kevin shampoo Nadeau wrote: > > Hello [ ... ] > > telnetd is infected with a national security backdoor in all > non-source compiled versions of FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. If you > download the source code for telnetd and compile it to compare the > file size of the "stock" or "out of the box" version of telnetd > versus the source-compiled version - you will clearly see a > difference - which is the backdoor. This information should be > forwarded to CERN and the BSD and Linux development teams. > [ ... ] Please don't feed the troll. The size difference is in "stripped" vs "non-stripped", btw. -- Josh > [ ... ] > > Kevin "shampoo" Nadeau > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
National Security Backdoor in telnetd - all versions.
Hello - This is an invitation to start a war against OS developers. telnetd is infected with a national security backdoor in all non-source compiled versions of FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. If you download the source code for telnetd and compile it to compare the file size of the "stock" or "out of the box" version of telnetd versus the source-compiled version - you will clearly see a difference - which is the backdoor. This information should be forwarded to CERN and the BSD and Linux development teams. It is to our knowledge that ALL OPERATING SYSTEMS HAVE BACK-DOORS IN THEIR OUT-OF-THE-BOX DAEMONS FOR NATIONAL SECURITY USE! All versions of Linux and SunOS with in.telnetd are also infected. The portmapper and most stock daemons in all OS's are infected if the compilation from direct source code results in a file size that is different from stock. This is a bust courtesy of Matrix 4 located at http://www.matrix4.net Peace! Kevin "shampoo" Nadeau ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
