Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 08:16:30AM +1100, richard wrote: Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and custom built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300 users and a couple of dozen virtual domains. As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external drive (for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9? Sounds like you're in a very similar situation to me :P In answer to the question, I would have thought so. If you're just interested in trying out 5.x for the heck of it (there isn't a specific reason for upgrading), you're probably better of installing it on a dev box perhaps - if that's possible. I'm amazed you have that many users but haven't managed to fill up /var yet with it being so small! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 1:38 AM To: Jez Hancock Cc: Richard Beyer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more space is required? I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x. [For several different reasons...] Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install of 5.2? You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing this wouldn't be too problematic. That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage of otherwise. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
I moved all the mail files to /usr/mail and sym-linked it to /var/mail. No problems with space. I've given up on the 5.2 upgrade, now I'm trying a 4.8 - 4.9 upgrade and the first attempt failed with an odd message - Couldn't even extract the bin distribution, consider this upgrade a failure. Anyone else ever seen this? Cheers, Richard -Original Message- From: Jez Hancock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jez Hancock Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 9:53 PM To: richard Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 08:16:30AM +1100, richard wrote: Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and custom built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300 users and a couple of dozen virtual domains. As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external drive (for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9? Sounds like you're in a very similar situation to me :P In answer to the question, I would have thought so. If you're just interested in trying out 5.x for the heck of it (there isn't a specific reason for upgrading), you're probably better of installing it on a dev box perhaps - if that's possible. I'm amazed you have that many users but haven't managed to fill up /var yet with it being so small! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 1:38 AM To: Jez Hancock Cc: Richard Beyer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more space is required? I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x. [For several different reasons...] Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install of 5.2? You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing this wouldn't be too problematic. That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage of otherwise. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:36:27PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled up. (No panic - doing it off a mirror). My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me - what now? Get a bigger hard drive? :P More details might help - how big is the disk drive you're installing to? How big are the partitions created in the install process? What type of installation are you attempting - full/minimal/etc ? The minimal installation takes up very little room - around 3-400MB iirc which should be small enough to fit on any hdd manufactured in the last 5 years or so. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports Cheers, Richard On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Jez Hancock wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:36:27PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled up. (No panic - doing it off a mirror). My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me - what now? Get a bigger hard drive? :P More details might help - how big is the disk drive you're installing to? How big are the partitions created in the install process? What type of installation are you attempting - full/minimal/etc ? The minimal installation takes up very little room - around 3-400MB iirc which should be small enough to fit on any hdd manufactured in the last 5 years or so. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
Hi Richard, On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more space is required? I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P Is there no chance you can perform a standard install from scratch? I had contemplated moving from 4.8 to 5.x, but am seriously putting it off because I imagine *upgrading* from 4.x to 5.x isn't too straight-forward - perhaps others could shed light on whether it's recommended to attempt it or not? Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install of 5.2? You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing this wouldn't be too problematic. Cheers, Richard On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Jez Hancock wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 12:36:27PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled up. (No panic - doing it off a mirror). My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me - what now? Get a bigger hard drive? :P More details might help - how big is the disk drive you're installing to? How big are the partitions created in the install process? What type of installation are you attempting - full/minimal/etc ? The minimal installation takes up very little room - around 3-400MB iirc which should be small enough to fit on any hdd manufactured in the last 5 years or so. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/- ipfw peruser traffic logging ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 10:10, Richard Beyer wrote: Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports I run 5.2.1-REL. Here are some differences: 4.x: kernel and modules reside in /kernel and /modules, there's a /standl around 5.x: kernel and modules reside in /boot/kernel, there's a /rescue replacing the old /stand (sysinstall in /usr/sbin now) So, if you delete old 4.x kernel(s) and modules and nuke /stand if you don't want it anymore you should probably be able to free some space. 5.x also uses somewhat more space in / but the difference isn't that much: Filesystem 1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 253678 54124 17926023%/ most of this is in /boot: %du /boot 18 /boot/defaults 16586 /boot/kernel 1732/boot/modules -- appears that the nvidia module sits here, weird.. 16602 /boot/kernel.old 35816 /boot HTH, Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more space is required? I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x. [For several different reasons...] Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install of 5.2? You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing this wouldn't be too problematic. That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage of otherwise. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
Migrating data will be problematic as there's lot of user cr*p and custom built web apps from generations of cowboy programmers, plus about 300 users and a couple of dozen virtual domains. As I'm really only after a stable implementation of a USB external drive (for backup) am I better off trying an upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9? Cheers, Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 1:38 AM To: Jez Hancock Cc: Richard Beyer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full Jez Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:10:05PM +1100, Richard Beyer wrote: Thanks Jez, Here's my df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 106M 9.4M92%/ /dev/ad0s1f 252M 9.6M 222M 4%/tmp /dev/ad0s1g72G 2.7G64G 4%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M51M 181M22%/var procfs4.0K 4.0K 0B 100%/proc It's an 80Gig HDD and I was using the sysinstall | upgrade | all | include ports Seems odd that so much space is taken up by / - perhaps under 5.x more space is required? I really do need to install 5.x at some point ... :P Yes, more space is used in the root filesystem for 5.x. [For several different reasons...] Can you not do a backup of your data and start over with a fresh install of 5.2? You have stacks of room on the hdd spare, so presumably doing this wouldn't be too problematic. That's definitely the way to go if possible; there are a number of advantagious new features that will be difficult to take advantage of otherwise. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie Upgrading 4.8 - 5.2, filesystem full
I tried doing an upgrade from 4.8 to 5.2, and part way through I got a filesystem full error (about 3 in a row actually) as each partion filled up. (No panic - doing it off a mirror). My question is - obviously the CDROM sysinstall isn't going to work for me - what now? Cheers, Richard ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
