Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-11-02 Thread RW
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:46:56 -0400
N.J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-01 15:43:53 -0800]:
  These are the servers I have listed:
 [...]
  I suppose I should find ones that are reachable via ipv4.
 
 Better yet, use the NTP Pool Project. If you including the following
 in your ntp.conf:
 
 server 0.pool.ntp.org prefer
 server 1.pool.ntp.org prefer
 server 2.pool.ntp.org prefer

You don't need any of the prefers. Using prefer like this simply
disables the clustering algorithm, and degrades the accuracy. 
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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-11-02 Thread N.J. Thomas
* RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-02 14:34:05 +]:
  server 0.pool.ntp.org prefer
  server 1.pool.ntp.org prefer
  server 2.pool.ntp.org prefer
 
 You don't need any of the prefers. Using prefer like this simply
 disables the clustering algorithm, and degrades the accuracy. 

Yeah, I had copied this out of my larger config file which had other
servers non-essentials listed in there, I should have removed the prefer
tags before giving it to OP.

Thomas

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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-11-01 Thread N.J. Thomas
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-31 16:08:10 -0800]:
   I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd
   that there is no route to such and such address. It gives what
   appears to be an interface card address.

 ntpq -p
  remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
 ==
  2610:1f8:d8:2:2 .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000 4000.00
  2001:4830:1210: .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000 4000.00
  hydrogen.cert.u 164.67.62.1942 u   10   643   13.909  -261.61   2.936
  pubts2-sj.witim 64.125.78.85 2 u8   643   20.023  -256.60   2.883
 
 Here are the console messages:
 ntpd (706) send to(2610:1f8:d8:2:216:cbff:fea3:4b2e:) no route to host
  (2001:4830:1210:0;280:10ff:fe00:48b9)   

 are these ipv6 addresses? Or are they expecting authentication and
 refusing connections?

The last two time servers seem to be communicating fine with your ntp
daemon. The bad ones look like IPv6 sites to me. What time servers do
you have listed in your ntp.conf file?

What is the output of grep -i server /etc/ntp.conf?

Thomas

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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-11-01 Thread jekillen


On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:18 AM, N.J. Thomas wrote:


* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-31 16:08:10 -0800]:

I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd
that there is no route to such and such address. It gives what
appears to be an interface card address.


ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay
offset  jitter
== 

 2610:1f8:d8:2:2 .INIT.  16 u-   6400.000 
0.000 4000.00
 2001:4830:1210: .INIT.  16 u-   6400.000 
0.000 4000.00
 hydrogen.cert.u 164.67.62.1942 u   10   643   13.909   
-261.61   2.936
 pubts2-sj.witim 64.125.78.85 2 u8   643   20.023   
-256.60   2.883


Here are the console messages:
ntpd (706) send to(2610:1f8:d8:2:216:cbff:fea3:4b2e:) no route to host
 (2001:4830:1210:0;280:10ff:fe00:48b9)   

are these ipv6 addresses? Or are they expecting authentication and
refusing connections?


The last two time servers seem to be communicating fine with your ntp
daemon. The bad ones look like IPv6 sites to me. What time servers do
you have listed in your ntp.conf file?

What is the output of grep -i server /etc/ntp.conf?


These are the servers I have listed:
server lain.ziaspace.com
#server ntp2.sf-bay.org
server reva.ziaspace.com
server hydrogen.cert.ucr.edu
server pubts2-sj.witime.net
The one commented out was not responding to ping.
I suppose I should find ones that are reachable via ipv4.
Jeff K

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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-11-01 Thread N.J. Thomas
* jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-01 15:43:53 -0800]:
 These are the servers I have listed:
[...]
 I suppose I should find ones that are reachable via ipv4.

Better yet, use the NTP Pool Project. If you including the following in
your ntp.conf:

server 0.pool.ntp.org prefer
server 1.pool.ntp.org prefer
server 2.pool.ntp.org prefer

That should work well.

See http://www.pool.ntp.org/ for more info.

Thomas

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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-31 Thread Olivier Nicole
Jeff, 

 I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd that
 there is no route to such and such address. It gives what appears to be
 an interface card address.

As a general rule, please copy/paste the error message.

 The
 rest respond without hesitation, both to dig and ping.

The time server is not reponding to dig per se. Dig is a command to
resolve a name into an IP, so that is your DNS server that is
responding to dig.

Best regards,

olivier
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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-31 Thread N.J. Thomas
* jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-30 17:12:19 -0800]:
 I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd that
 there is no route to such and such address.

Please post the output of ntpq -p.

Thomas

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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-31 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi Jeff,

 Here are the console messages:
 ntpd (706) send to(2610:1f8:d8:2:216:cbff:fea3:4b2e:) no route to host
   (2001:4830:1210:0;280:10ff:fe00:48b9)   
   #are these ipv6 addresses? Or are they expecting authentication and
 refusing connections?

The answer seems pretty straight forward to me, in fact it is written
in the error message, ntpd is trying an IPv6 connection to that very
server. Usually, it will start trying IPv6 if it finds an v6 IP
address for a given server, and if the v6 connection does not success,
it will try v4 connection.

It would be instersting to see the answer of a dig for that time
server with IPv6 address, just for confirmation, please run a:

  dig that.time.server ANY

and see if you get a AAA reccord in the answer section.

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-31 Thread jekillen


On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote:


Jeff,


I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd that
there is no route to such and such address. It gives what appears to  
be

an interface card address.


As a general rule, please copy/paste the error message.


The
rest respond without hesitation, both to dig and ping.


The time server is not reponding to dig per se. Dig is a command to
resolve a name into an IP, so that is your DNS server that is
responding to dig.

Yes, I know, my message said it was complaining about what appear to
be arp addresses ( I think they are also referred to as MAC addresses)
I will try to reproduce an error message if I can get one to come up  
now.

Last night I edited ntp.conf to comment out a time server that was not
responding to pings but did turn up a dig response. The ntpd did give
me these messages, so just to get it out of my hair for a while I killed
it. Some time later I restarted it with the command line presented in
the FBSD handbook telling how to start the server. It did not give me
anymore problems.
Another poster requested I send the output from  ntpq -p.

ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset   
jitter
 
==
 2610:1f8:d8:2:2 .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000  
4000.00
 2001:4830:1210: .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000  
4000.00
 hydrogen.cert.u 164.67.62.1942 u   10   643   13.909  -261.61   
 2.936
 pubts2-sj.witim 64.125.78.85 2 u8   643   20.023  -256.60   
 2.883


Here are the console messages:
ntpd (706) send to(2610:1f8:d8:2:216:cbff:fea3:4b2e:) no route to host
 (2001:4830:1210:0;280:10ff:fe00:48b9)   
 #are these ipv6 addresses? Or are they expecting authentication and
refusing connections?
Thanks for the responses:
Jeff K


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Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-30 Thread jekillen

Hello again.
I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd that
there is no route to such and such address. It gives what appears to be
an interface card address. I found several time servers and listed them
in ntp.conf. One is unreachable as demonstrated by ping failure. The
rest respond without hesitation, both to dig and ping.
But why would ntpd be looking for interface addresses and not ip/domain
names?
The recent resolver problems I had have been solved, to the extent they
have been a problem. Is ntpd trying arp or rarp for these addresses or
is it something else I am not aware of? This is the first time I have 
dealt
with ntp. I am trying to follow instructions from latest FreeBSD 
handbook.

Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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