Re: OCI support in PHP is dead

2011-07-14 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 14.07.2011 11:43, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 14/07/2011 07:16, Victor Sudakov wrote:
 The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8
 is marked as vulnerable.

 
 Oracle 8 is pretty obsolete now.  Now, the only options for getting more
 up to date support are
 
-- persuading Oracle to release eg. an Oracle Instant Client package
   for FreeBSD
 
-- somehow being able to use the Linux client software under
   emulation.
 
 I've no idea what Oracle's response to the first option would be, but I
 suspect their response might well be that they won't get enough return
 to justify the cost of producing a FreeBSD native client.

I suspect getting oracle to create such a client would cost (per user)
about half a cent less than replacing the oracle DB would. They're
(in)famous for such calculations.

 The second option looks pretty difficult to me -- making a PHP shared
 object that links to a Linux shlib but that is itself linked into
 various PHP applications.

This one might be a bit cheaper.

 The future looks Postgresql shaped to me.

Or any other non-yacht-sponsoring DB.

//Svein

p.s. I've had the pleasure of having dealt with Oracle on several
occasions.

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Re: OCI support in PHP is dead

2011-07-14 Thread Victor Sudakov
Matthew Seaman wrote:
  The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8
  is marked as vulnerable.
  
 
 Oracle 8 is pretty obsolete now.  Now, the only options for getting more
 up to date support are
 
-- persuading Oracle to release eg. an Oracle Instant Client package
   for FreeBSD
 
-- somehow being able to use the Linux client software under
   emulation.
 
 I've no idea what Oracle's response to the first option would be, but I
 suspect their response might well be that they won't get enough return
 to justify the cost of producing a FreeBSD native client.
 
 The second option looks pretty difficult to me -- making a PHP shared
 object that links to a Linux shlib but that is itself linked into
 various PHP applications.

I suspected that databases/linux-oracle-instantclient-basic is
virtually useless.


 
 The future looks Postgresql shaped to me.
 

I don't believe so. Our in-house sites use Postgres, but sometimes
they have to interact with commercial systems (ERP, NetID etc)
and I don't envision commercial vendors moving from Oracle to Postgres
any time soon. 

I even considered running sqlplus via ssh but this is too ugly and not
compatible with PHP frameworks. Seems that FreeBSD has lost yet
another niche in our company. Which is a real pity because Linux is a
pain in the ass and Solaris is not free.

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Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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