OSX and Freebsd : what could be a good setup
I've purchased a new emac with OSX 10.3. It's soon to arrive and so I'm thinking about a good way of interacting the emac - which will be my main desktop - with my 5.2.1 server. Until now I used a windows laptop with xp and the files where shared with samba. So I thought that using an unixoid os would bring some advantages :-) I think that I'll use hfs+ on the emac. I've read about the hfs and hfs+ port but I doesn't want to take a risk. The freebsd server should act as mail and news-server and also as file server. Do I have to put the data on a fat32-slice? If I setup a nfs-mount on the freebsd server and copy data from OSX to it, is the data readable from Freebsd without the hfs port? You see I'm in a state of confusion.. Thanks in advance. Sven Hohage ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSX and Freebsd : what could be a good setup
Sven, I have PowerBook G4 running OS X 10.3.3 and a dual AMD Athlon system running FBSD 4.9-STABLE. I regularly mount partitions via NFS between these machines without a problem. With permissions set properly drag-n-drop works great. Alex On Apr 2, 2004, at 4:23 AM, Panna wrote: I've purchased a new emac with OSX 10.3. It's soon to arrive and so I'm thinking about a good way of interacting the emac - which will be my main desktop - with my 5.2.1 server. Until now I used a windows laptop with xp and the files where shared with samba. So I thought that using an unixoid os would bring some advantages :-) I think that I'll use hfs+ on the emac. I've read about the hfs and hfs+ port but I doesn't want to take a risk. The freebsd server should act as mail and news-server and also as file server. Do I have to put the data on a fat32-slice? If I setup a nfs-mount on the freebsd server and copy data from OSX to it, is the data readable from Freebsd without the hfs port? You see I'm in a state of confusion.. Thanks in advance. Sven Hohage ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexander Sendzimir (owner)802 863 5502 MacTutor: Apple Mac OS X Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSX and Freebsd : what could be a good setup
Panna wrote: I've purchased a new emac with OSX 10.3. It's soon to arrive and so I'm thinking about a good way of interacting the emac - which will be my main desktop - with my 5.2.1 server. Until now I used a windows laptop with xp and the files where shared with samba. So I thought that using an unixoid os would bring some advantages :-) I think that I'll use hfs+ on the emac. I've read about the hfs and hfs+ port but I doesn't want to take a risk. The freebsd server should act as mail and news-server and also as file server. Do I have to put the data on a fat32-slice? No. If I setup a nfs-mount on the freebsd server and copy data from OSX to it, is the data readable from Freebsd without the hfs port? Yes. A computer only needs filesystem support for drives that are physically mounted in it. When two machines talk across a network, they transfer data using network protocols, not mutual filesystem support. But it might also be worth considering installing the net/netatalk port. That way, the mac will be able to mount a network share on its desktop and you'll be able to use it just like the local hard drive. PWR. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSX and Freebsd : what could be a good setup
Panna wrote: I've purchased a new emac with OSX 10.3. ...snip... The freebsd server should act as mail and news-server and also as file server. Do I have to put the data on a fat32-slice? no, use nfs If I setup a nfs-mount on the freebsd server and copy data from OSX to it, is the data readable from Freebsd without the hfs port? yes You see I'm in a state of confusion.. You're simply using a FreeBSD as a file server. You serve up files to the client via NFS (OS X) or CIFS (Windows). FreeBSD doesn't care. Now if you want FreeBSD to understand and manipulate those files is a different issue. -- Regards, Doug ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSX and Freebsd : what could be a good setup
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Panna wrote: I've purchased a new emac with OSX 10.3. It's soon to arrive and so I'm thinking about a good way of interacting the emac - which will be my main desktop - with my 5.2.1 server. Until now I used a windows laptop with xp and the files where shared with samba. You can do Samba out of the box with OS X. So I thought that using an unixoid os would bring some advantages :-) I think that I'll use hfs+ on the emac. HFS is not an option on the OS X box. UFS is, but the performance is absolutely terrible. For example, loading 10,000 message files from Leafnode takes about three seconds when the store is on HFS+, and about nine minutes when the store is on UFS. (2xG5, 1.5GB ram, 250GB SATA) It's supposed to be getting better next version. I've read about the hfs and hfs+ port but I doesn't want to take a risk. Not needed, see below. The freebsd server should act as mail and news-server and also as file server. Worked fine for me until I replaced the FreeBSD server with an OS X G5. I used sendmail, UW-IMAP server, and Leafnode for news. Do I have to put the data on a fat32-slice? No. If I setup a nfs-mount on the freebsd server and copy data from OSX to it, is the data readable from Freebsd without the hfs port? Yes. Run everything on the server as native UFS (or whatever FreeBSD calls it). Export as NFS or CIFS as you please. You see I'm in a state of confusion.. Pretend the OS X box is just another Unix client. There's no need to provide any special accommodation for it from the server side. For the OS X box itself, use HFS+. You can set up multiple partitions if you like, I use one for the system, one for apps, and one for user home and data storage. See fink and darwinports for open source port/packaging systems. Neither as good as FreeBSD ports, but what is? KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSX and Freebsd : what could be a good setup
On Apr 2, 2004, at 4:23 AM, Panna wrote: Until now I used a windows laptop with xp and the files where shared with samba. So I thought that using an unixoid os would bring some advantages :-) I think that I'll use hfs+ on the emac. [ ... ] The freebsd server should act as mail and news-server and also as file server. Do I have to put the data on a fat32-slice? No. If I setup a nfs-mount on the freebsd server and copy data from OSX to it, is the data readable from Freebsd without the hfs port? Yes, NFS lets you share files without worrying about whether the local filesystem is HFS+, UFS, or anything else. If you've already gotten Samba working, you could use that to share files instead of setting up NFS: both work fine, but Samba filesharing might work a little better since the Finder supports it a little more gracefully... -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
