Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
Louis LeBlanc wrote: Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? It doesnt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:28:38 +0400 Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis LeBlanc wrote: Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? It doesnt ** Reply Separator ** Monday, August 22, 2005 4:50:11 PM That is a simple fix. If this is a domain environment, open up the security properties of the printer and add Authenticated Users and give them the print privilege. This is similar to having to change permissions, etc. in order to allow non-root users the ability to mount floppy drives, etc. in FreeBSD. -- Gerard E. Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (\___/) (\___/) (\___/) (\___/) (\___/) (\___/) /0\ /0\ /o\ /o\ /0\ /0\ /O\ /O\ /o\ /o\ /0\ /0\ \__V__/ \__V__/ \__V__/ \__V__/ \__V__/ \__V__/ /|:. .:|\ /|;, ,;|\ /|:. .:|\ /|;, ,;|\ /|;, ,;|\ /|:. .:|\ \\:// \\;// \\:// \\;// \\;// \\:// jgs--` `---` `---` `---` `---` `---` `--- ^~^^~^~^~^~^^~~^^^~^~~^~^~^~^^~~^^^~^~~^~^~^~^^~~^^^~^^~^~^~^^~~^^ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On 08/22/05 04:56 PM, Gerard Seibert sat at the `puter and typed: On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:28:38 +0400 Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis LeBlanc wrote: Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? It doesnt ** Reply Separator ** Monday, August 22, 2005 4:50:11 PM That is a simple fix. If this is a domain environment, open up the security properties of the printer and add Authenticated Users and give them the print privilege. This is similar to having to change permissions, etc. in order to allow non-root users the ability to mount floppy drives, etc. in FreeBSD. Thanks for the tip, but this isn't a domain environment. There is NO security property available for this printer. This is the only machine I'm tolerating a M$ OS on, so I don't really need the hassle of a domain. The printer in question has its own ethernet port, and runs its own printserver, and security is intended to be open to any system within my network. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 bureaucrat, n: A politician who has tenure. pgpT0enWeWqGs.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
What are the symptoms that you need administrator privileges? The default security scheme, even with the SP2 behemoth installed, require an administrator or power user to install the printer, but a user can print to it. Is this just a postfix or pdl printer installed with a local tcp/ip port or are you connecting to a shared network printer off a samba machine? Is the sky really blue and will I get flamed for replying to a windows question? Only time will tell Joshua Weaver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Louis LeBlanc Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 4:29 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru On 08/22/05 04:56 PM, Gerard Seibert sat at the `puter and typed: On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:28:38 +0400 Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis LeBlanc wrote: Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? It doesnt ** Reply Separator ** Monday, August 22, 2005 4:50:11 PM That is a simple fix. If this is a domain environment, open up the security properties of the printer and add Authenticated Users and give them the print privilege. This is similar to having to change permissions, etc. in order to allow non-root users the ability to mount floppy drives, etc. in FreeBSD. Thanks for the tip, but this isn't a domain environment. There is NO security property available for this printer. This is the only machine I'm tolerating a M$ OS on, so I don't really need the hassle of a domain. The printer in question has its own ethernet port, and runs its own printserver, and security is intended to be open to any system within my network. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 bureaucrat, n: A politician who has tenure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On 8/22/05, Joshua Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the symptoms that you need administrator privileges? The default security scheme, even with the SP2 behemoth installed, require an administrator or power user to install the printer, but a user can print to it. Is this just a postfix or pdl printer installed with a local tcp/ip port or are you connecting to a shared network printer off a samba machine? Is the sky really blue and will I get flamed for replying to a windows question? Only time will tell I want to see a postfix printer :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On 08/22/05 05:03 PM, Joshua Weaver sat at the `puter and typed: What are the symptoms that you need administrator privileges? The default security scheme, even with the SP2 behemoth installed, require an administrator or power user to install the printer, but a user can print to it. Is this just a postfix or pdl printer installed with a local tcp/ip port or are you connecting to a shared network printer off a samba machine? Is the sky really blue and will I get flamed for replying to a windows question? Only time will tell I think you mean PostScript or pdf, not postfix or pdl, but the symptoms were a simple failure to print. It would simply pop up a message saying it could not print to the printer. It's been a long time, and I gave up trying to solve it a long time ago, but basically, I spent 8 hours on the phone with Dell support in New Dehli or where ever it was, and spoke to 4 different people until I found someone whose accent wasn't too thick to understand and finally gave up. No, I wasn't too thrilled about it, but I figured that's windows. So, every time I see something about Windows administration, security or otherwise, I flip through or ask about this old headache. Sorry to have eaten so much time on this list. Thanks to those who have offered up pointers. To be honest, I don't care enough to waste much time with it. I don't use that machine much anyway. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Rudin's Law: If there is a wrong way to do something, most people will do it every time. pgpQXKsJVAAda.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On 08/20/05 11:23 PM, Andrew L. Gould sat at the `puter and typed: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:09:52 +0300 Ovidiu Ene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this a joke? Kent Hauser wrote: Hi, I've been a Unix sysadmin (SunOS 3.x, 4.x, Solaris, FreeBSD) for 15 years, but am now being forced to learn how to run a collection of XP boxes. Can anyone recommend a book which explains this confusing beast? I'm talking about a book which explains where things are put (equiv of / var/mail, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf), where application data is stored, how printers, disks, etc are shared, how to book in fixit disk mode, how to backup/restore, how to configure swap space. And also questions like why XP is professional, etc. I know it's a bit off topic, but I'm having a hard time figuring the system to what's what in XP. Thanks, Kent There are lots of WinXP administration books in the bookstores. Although there are several books for Windows users moving to Unix, I've not seen one for the other direction. There is an O'Reilly book called Windows XP Annoyances for Geeks. It may not help; but at least it has a cool title. ;-) Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? Stupid XP. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 enhance, v.: To tamper with an image, usually to its detriment. pgpgZBJxn2H3U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 04:17:03 -0400 Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/20/05 11:23 PM, Andrew L. Gould sat at the `puter and typed: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:09:52 +0300 Ovidiu Ene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this a joke? Kent Hauser wrote: Hi, I've been a Unix sysadmin (SunOS 3.x, 4.x, Solaris, FreeBSD) for 15 years, but am now being forced to learn how to run a collection of XP boxes. Can anyone recommend a book which explains this confusing beast? I'm talking about a book which explains where things are put (equiv of / var/mail, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf), where application data is stored, how printers, disks, etc are shared, how to book in fixit disk mode, how to backup/restore, how to configure swap space. And also questions like why XP is professional, etc. I know it's a bit off topic, but I'm having a hard time figuring the system to what's what in XP. Thanks, Kent There are lots of WinXP administration books in the bookstores. Although there are several books for Windows users moving to Unix, I've not seen one for the other direction. There is an O'Reilly book called Windows XP Annoyances for Geeks. It may not help; but at least it has a cool title. ;-) Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? Stupid XP. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Probably not. I have normal WinXP users here at home printing to printers on a Hawking print server using IPP. Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 04:17:03 -0400 Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/20/05 11:23 PM, Andrew L. Gould sat at the `puter and typed: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:09:52 +0300 Ovidiu Ene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this a joke? Kent Hauser wrote: Hi, I've been a Unix sysadmin (SunOS 3.x, 4.x, Solaris, FreeBSD) for 15 years, but am now being forced to learn how to run a collection of XP boxes. Can anyone recommend a book which explains this confusing beast? I'm talking about a book which explains where things are put (equiv of / var/mail, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf), where application data is stored, how printers, disks, etc are shared, how to book in fixit disk mode, how to backup/restore, how to configure swap space. And also questions like why XP is professional, etc. I know it's a bit off topic, but I'm having a hard time figuring the system to what's what in XP. Thanks, Kent There are lots of WinXP administration books in the bookstores. Although there are several books for Windows users moving to Unix, I've not seen one for the other direction. There is an O'Reilly book called Windows XP Annoyances for Geeks. It may not help; but at least it has a cool title. ;-) Does it tell you why XP requires any user wishing to print to a network printer must have administrator privileges? Stupid XP. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint = C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Probably not. I have normal WinXP users here at home printing to printers on a Hawking print server using IPP. Andrew Gould Have fun and good luck Kent. Many of the resources for administering Windows machines is more difficult as the resources are more obscure than for Unix. Granted, a lot of the stuff comes easily as it's ascessible via preexisting menus, shortcuts and so forth, so you don't have to venture too far for a lot of the important things. However, there are quite a few-more difficult to search for-command line commands which you can use with greater power to accomplish what you need to do as an admin. Google and outside books are your friend in this case (especially the Riley ones I think since they produce a lot of books on the subject). Be happy though that you aren't in charge of an actual Windows server product with a domain though, because those are increasingly more difficult to learn because of all of the little tools and junk that are present, a lot of them command line based. That's why the MSCE certification exists. -Garrett ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
I have a few tips, I started my computer life as a windows guy (I hate the dam thing now). hmm, Grab a copy of ActiveState's ActivePerl and a find a good Perl for Win32 book. Most everything you want is in the Control Panel and you can find Computer Management in there, To get to Control Panel click on Start Are you really that clueless about windows, you've never used it? Don't your friends pester you for computer help? Maybe you should think about resigning... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672322633/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0735621527/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0735619743/ Kent Hauser wrote: Hi, I've been a Unix sysadmin (SunOS 3.x, 4.x, Solaris, FreeBSD) for 15 years, but am now being forced to learn how to run a collection of XP boxes. Can anyone recommend a book which explains this confusing beast? I'm talking about a book which explains where things are put (equiv of / var/mail, There is no /var/mail. It's stored under the users profile. click on My computer then drive C: then Documents and Settings then %username% then (I think) application data (the folder you want will be hidden, in the file browser click on tools i think and then option click on the next tab over and uncheck / check I think the first 5 boxes and hit OK. the folder to look in is whatever mail program you use, Outlook stores mail in a .pst file. /etc/passwd, Last I checked it was something like ntuser.dat or user.dat or something like that, you can find it under Documents and Settings\%username% but you can't do anything with that file because it's encrypted. hmm. Click on Start Setting Control Panel Computer Management and a program should pop up then you want some like user and group management then User management... sorry I'm trying to remember all this from heart I don't have any windows computers around me. /etc/rc.conf) Click on Start Run type in regedit in the box and hit enter. most of the things you want are under Hkey_Local_machine ... (I don't remember... service or currentcontrolset somthing... microsoft.. etc.) but their is hkey_current_user (think shell config file) too , where application data is stored C:\Program Files\%Name of App or Company of App%\ , how printers Start Settings Printers , disks, etc are shared, You have admin shares for the root of all disks by default %Diskname%$ so for drive C it would be \\hostname\C$ to share stuff double click on My Computer goto the folder you want to share and right click on it and click properties, click on the tab share or maybe it called sharing how to book in fixit disk mode What? hmm Try hitting the F8 key at boot, this will give you a boot menu. , how to backup/restore, You need to buy a 3rd party app for that or make a perl script etc. how to configure swap space. Right click on My computer and it's its its under the tab system maybe, It has 3 boxes in it... anyways that will get you halfway there. click on performance button I think. And also questions like why XP is professional, etc. Marketing, the windows XP home and pro disks are the same, home can be hacked into Pro with a simple hex editor. BTW Don't ask me for anymore help unless you want to pay for tutoring. I was feeling generous today when I decided to help Microsoft extend it's monopoly without getting some of the action, I don't know why. Maybe because I feel your pain. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Re: WinXP administration guide for unix guru
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:09:52 +0300 Ovidiu Ene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this a joke? Kent Hauser wrote: Hi, I've been a Unix sysadmin (SunOS 3.x, 4.x, Solaris, FreeBSD) for 15 years, but am now being forced to learn how to run a collection of XP boxes. Can anyone recommend a book which explains this confusing beast? I'm talking about a book which explains where things are put (equiv of / var/mail, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf), where application data is stored, how printers, disks, etc are shared, how to book in fixit disk mode, how to backup/restore, how to configure swap space. And also questions like why XP is professional, etc. I know it's a bit off topic, but I'm having a hard time figuring the system to what's what in XP. Thanks, Kent There are lots of WinXP administration books in the bookstores. Although there are several books for Windows users moving to Unix, I've not seen one for the other direction. There is an O'Reilly book called Windows XP Annoyances for Geeks. It may not help; but at least it has a cool title. ;-) Good luck, Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
