OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread DAve
We just put our replacement DNS servers online, djbdns replacing Bind.
In testing with the few domains we have moved to the new servers we
began getting intermittent failures for some clients.

It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but name
server records. This happens when the root servers refer the query to
TLSx.Ultradns.net.

I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
openoffice.org as well others.

Is anyone else seeing this?

DAve
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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:43 AM, DAve wrote:

It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but  
name

server records. This happens when the root servers refer the query to
TLSx.Ultradns.net.

I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
openoffice.org as well others.

Is anyone else seeing this?


No, but I use dig, not dnsstuff.  Are the missing records visible by:

  dig slashdot.org @ns1.ostg.com
  dig openoffice.org @ns1.collab.net

...?  I don't see why ultradns.net would be involved...?

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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread RW
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:06 -0500
DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We just put our replacement DNS servers online, djbdns replacing Bind.
 In testing with the few domains we have moved to the new servers we
 began getting intermittent failures for some clients.
 
 It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
 domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but
 name server records. This happens when the root servers refer the
 query to TLSx.Ultradns.net.
 
 I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
 openoffice.org as well others.

I don't see what you are getting at here, why would Ultradns return
A-records for slashdot.org when they don't provide that domains DNS? 
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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread Robert Woolley
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:10:49 +0100
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:06 -0500
 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  We just put our replacement DNS servers online, djbdns replacing
  Bind. In testing with the few domains we have moved to the new
  servers we began getting intermittent failures for some clients.
  
  It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
  domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but
  name server records. This happens when the root servers refer the
  query to TLSx.Ultradns.net.
  
  I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
  openoffice.org as well others.
 
 I don't see what you are getting at here, why would Ultradns return
 A-records for slashdot.org when they don't provide that domains DNS? 

but if you're asking why it doesn't provide A-records for the domain's
nameservers, then presumably it's because the nameservers themselves
are using a different TLD.
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Re: OT: UltraDNS and dor org domains.

2007-10-22 Thread DAve
Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:43 AM, DAve wrote:
 It is only dot org domains, checking deeper it ain't us. If I do a
 domain query from dnsstuff for any org, I sometimes get nothing but name
 server records. This happens when the root servers refer the query to
 TLSx.Ultradns.net.

 I see ultradns failing to return A records for slashdot.org and
 openoffice.org as well others.

 Is anyone else seeing this?
 
 No, but I use dig, not dnsstuff.  Are the missing records visible by:
 
   dig slashdot.org @ns1.ostg.com
   dig openoffice.org @ns1.collab.net

Dig works here as to be expected. Not a problem.

 
 ...?  I don't see why ultradns.net would be involved...?
 

Because dnsstuff is the only service where I can see the full path of
the query. Dig does not show me how/where it queries, it simply provides
the answer. I cannot see the output of the +trace command due to my network.

I think it is an ultradns issue because they are the only TLD server
that doesn't return a SOA record. I am thinking, maybe dangerous, that
our client's AD install doesn't handle a query response properly for
that reason.

One look at my DNS logs tells me AD is rarely configured properly.

DAve



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logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos
for other non-international holidays, but nothing for
Veterans?

Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible.
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