Old slow computers can still crank away (Formerly RE: Portsnap vs CSup)

2009-03-20 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:26 +0100
 From: woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: millenia2...@hotmail.com
 CC: f...@bomgardner.net; ch...@monochrome.org; cho...@charter.net; 
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: Portsnap vs CSup
 
 
  compiling the kernel on that could take several days by itself let alone 
  compiling X and then a thick GUI like KDE or GNOME. amazing that a 100MHz 
  system with 48 megs of ram can still run so fast if you build it right.
 
 for sure not KDE, but X and FreeBSD itself with good software running on 
 it works FAST on 100Mhz machine with 48MB RAM.
 
 Yes compiling is slow, but normal usage is FAST.


I never used gnome or KDE on it, ran Blackbox insted. 

 

_Sean
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Re: Old slow computers can still crank away (Formerly RE: Portsnap vs CSup)

2009-03-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

 
 for sure not KDE, but X and FreeBSD itself with good software running on
 it works FAST on 100Mhz machine with 48MB RAM.

 Yes compiling is slow, but normal usage is FAST.

I never used gnome or KDE on it, ran Blackbox insted.


of course it's fast.

and even slower machines like 486/33 without HD/FDD could be used as X 
terminals

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Re: Old slow computers can still crank away (Formerly RE: Portsnap vs CSup)

2009-03-20 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:12:12 -0400, Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com 
wrote:
  Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:26 +0100
  for sure not KDE, but X and FreeBSD itself with good software running on 
  it works FAST on 100Mhz machine with 48MB RAM.
  
  Yes compiling is slow, but normal usage is FAST.
 
 
 I never used gnome or KDE on it, ran Blackbox insted. 

I can ensure that it is still fast. My slowest FreeBSD system,
a 150 MHz P1 with 64 (now 128 MB) EDO RAM, is completely usable
with WindowMaker and applications that do not try to be an all
in one solution, such as mplayer for videos, xmms for MP3 and OGG,
gv, xzgv, StarOffice, LaTeX, Opera and other specialized software.
In terms of server usage these old systems run quite well, don't
consume much power (important when they run 24/7/365).

To add this, my 300 MHz P2 with 128 MB RAM runs SLOWER (!) with
FreeBSD 5 than my 2 GHz P4 with 768 MB (SDR-SD) RAM with FreeBSD
7. This is mostly due to the software running on top of it. While
FreeBSD itself gave a speed boost (in booting and performance),
this advantage was eaten up by the new applications completely,
due to improved libraries. X starts slower, windows render
slower, browser runs slower, nearly everything.

I'm not lying, it's the truth.




-- 
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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