Re: Place to install library of shell functions
Chris Rees wrote: 2011/4/5 Jerry McAllister: I would go with /usr/local/lib I'd rather agree with the OP; shell functions are arch-independent, and are DATADIR suited IMO. Thank all of you for your feedback! Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Place to install library of shell functions
2011/4/5 Jerry McAllister : > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:23:47PM +0200, Michael Grünewald wrote: > >> Dear FreeBSD users, >> >> >> today I come to you with what seems to be somehow pedantic question: >> where is the best place to install libraries of shell functions. >> >> I read hier(4) carefully and it seems the correct place for this would >> be somewhere under `/usr/local/share': >> >> share/ architecture-independent files > > I would go with /usr/local/lib. > I'd rather agree with the OP; shell functions are arch-independent, and are DATADIR suited IMO. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Place to install library of shell functions
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:09:40 -0400 mikel king articulated: > For the bash library (http://jafdip.com/?p=537) we > choose /usr/local/lib. This just seems to be the most logical place > for this sort of thing. Interestingly enough, WOT gives that URL a poor rating. http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/jafdip.com -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Place to install library of shell functions
On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Michael Grünewald wrote: > Dear FreeBSD users, > > > today I come to you with what seems to be somehow pedantic question: where > is the best place to install libraries of shell functions. > > I read hier(4) carefully and it seems the correct place for this would be > somewhere under `/usr/local/share': > >share/architecture-independent files > > > On the base systems, many macros (make templates and groff macros) are > actually installed under /usr/share. However, the only library of shell > functions I am aware of is `/etc/rc.subr', that landed on this funny > location, probably to be pretty sure that this library is on the same > filesystem as the scripts under /etc/rc.d. > > Several of the ports install shell scripts under `/usr/local/lib' that > hier(4) devotes to ``shared and archive ar(1)-type libraries''. These shell > scripts are: > > > find /usr/local/lib -name '*.sh' > /usr/local/lib/tk8.5/tkConfig.sh > /usr/local/lib/seamonkey/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/libxul/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/convertrpmrc.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/getpo.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/u_pkg.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides2.sh > /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh > /usr/local/lib/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/llvm-gcc-2.8/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.2/4.2.1/install-tools/fixinc.sh > > Two files (the `/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh' one and the `s/tcl/tk/g' > one) are actually shell script libraries (defining a bunch of variables), and > all the others are ancillary scripts, that would maybe better fit in > `/usr/local/libexec'. > > So, practical experience does not really second my a priori that these files > sould go under the `share' hierarchy and I would like to have your opinion on > this question. > -- > Best Regards, > Michael For the bash library (http://jafdip.com/?p=537) we choose /usr/local/lib. This just seems to be the most logical place for this sort of thing. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Place to install library of shell functions
In the last episode (Apr 05), Michael Grünewald said: > today I come to you with what seems to be somehow pedantic question: where > is the best place to install libraries of shell functions. > > I read hier(4) carefully and it seems the correct place for this would > be somewhere under `/usr/local/share': > > share/architecture-independent files > > On the base systems, many macros (make templates and groff macros) are > actually installed under /usr/share. However, the only library of shell > functions I am aware of is `/etc/rc.subr', that landed on this funny > location, probably to be pretty sure that this library is on the same > filesystem as the scripts under /etc/rc.d. > > Several of the ports install shell scripts under `/usr/local/lib' that > hier(4) devotes to ``shared and archive ar(1)-type libraries''. These > shell scripts are: The zsh port installs all its helper scripts and functions into /usr/local/share/zsh , and the portupgrade and portmaster ports insert their zsh autocompletion functions into /usr/local/share/zsh/site-functions. Seems to work great. Ports that install scripts into /usr/local/lib probably either don't have separate script and lib install paths in their makefile (tcl probably), or their scripts aren't meant to be called directly (firefox). -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Place to install library of shell functions
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:23:47 +0200, Michael Grünewald wrote: > Dear FreeBSD users, > > > today I come to you with what seems to be somehow pedantic question: > where is the best place to install libraries of shell functions. Depends. Are you interested in shell functions you install from a port / package, or your own shell functions? > I read hier(4) carefully and it seems the correct place for this would > be somewhere under `/usr/local/share': > > share/architecture-independent files This structure usually serves the purpose of /usr/share, but for software installed by ports or packages, as the /usr/local/ subtree "duplicates" the system's structures in many cases. > On the base systems, many macros (make templates and groff macros) are > actually installed under /usr/share. However, the only library of shell > functions I am aware of is `/etc/rc.subr', that landed on this funny > location, probably to be pretty sure that this library is on the same > filesystem as the scripts under /etc/rc.d. I guess that's the intention behind this decision. You'll see that many things on FreeBSD are determined by a well- intended thought, rather than an arbitrary "Oh, why don't we just put it ... *throw a dice* ... here?" > Several of the ports install shell scripts under `/usr/local/lib' that > hier(4) devotes to ``shared and archive ar(1)-type libraries''. These > shell scripts are: > > > find /usr/local/lib -name '*.sh' > /usr/local/lib/tk8.5/tkConfig.sh > /usr/local/lib/seamonkey/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/libxul/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/convertrpmrc.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/getpo.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/u_pkg.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides2.sh > /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh > /usr/local/lib/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/llvm-gcc-2.8/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.2/4.2.1/install-tools/fixinc.sh > > Two files (the `/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh' one and the > `s/tcl/tk/g' one) are actually shell script libraries (defining a bunch > of variables), and all the others are ancillary scripts, that would > maybe better fit in `/usr/local/libexec'. It depends on where the respective port maintainer want to have them. > So, practical experience does not really second my a priori that these > files sould go under the `share' hierarchy and I would like to have your > opinion on this question. Many software is ported from Linux, so their structures, or sometimes the lack of, is applied. For example, I put _my_ stuff that is NOT managed by ports and definitely does NOT belong to the system into an /opt subtree, a Solaris-ism I'm "abusing": /opt/bin is in $PATH, so anything system-wide executable is located there, and /opt/share does contain non-executable shell scripts (e. g. those with helper functionalities) or files with settings (that are sourced by something else) - things that usually are not called directly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Place to install library of shell functions
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:23:47PM +0200, Michael Grünewald wrote: > Dear FreeBSD users, > > > today I come to you with what seems to be somehow pedantic question: > where is the best place to install libraries of shell functions. > > I read hier(4) carefully and it seems the correct place for this would > be somewhere under `/usr/local/share': > > share/architecture-independent files I would go with /usr/local/lib. jerry > > On the base systems, many macros (make templates and groff macros) are > actually installed under /usr/share. However, the only library of shell > functions I am aware of is `/etc/rc.subr', that landed on this funny > location, probably to be pretty sure that this library is on the same > filesystem as the scripts under /etc/rc.d. > > Several of the ports install shell scripts under `/usr/local/lib' that > hier(4) devotes to ``shared and archive ar(1)-type libraries''. These > shell scripts are: > > > find /usr/local/lib -name '*.sh' > /usr/local/lib/tk8.5/tkConfig.sh > /usr/local/lib/seamonkey/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/libxul/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/convertrpmrc.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/getpo.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/u_pkg.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides.sh > /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides2.sh > /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh > /usr/local/lib/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/local/lib/llvm-gcc-2.8/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.2/4.2.1/install-tools/fixinc.sh > > Two files (the `/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh' one and the > `s/tcl/tk/g' one) are actually shell script libraries (defining a bunch > of variables), and all the others are ancillary scripts, that would > maybe better fit in `/usr/local/libexec'. > > So, practical experience does not really second my a priori that these > files sould go under the `share' hierarchy and I would like to have your > opinion on this question. > -- > Best Regards, > Michael > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Place to install library of shell functions
Dear FreeBSD users, today I come to you with what seems to be somehow pedantic question: where is the best place to install libraries of shell functions. I read hier(4) carefully and it seems the correct place for this would be somewhere under `/usr/local/share': share/architecture-independent files On the base systems, many macros (make templates and groff macros) are actually installed under /usr/share. However, the only library of shell functions I am aware of is `/etc/rc.subr', that landed on this funny location, probably to be pretty sure that this library is on the same filesystem as the scripts under /etc/rc.d. Several of the ports install shell scripts under `/usr/local/lib' that hier(4) devotes to ``shared and archive ar(1)-type libraries''. These shell scripts are: > find /usr/local/lib -name '*.sh' /usr/local/lib/tk8.5/tkConfig.sh /usr/local/lib/seamonkey/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/lib/libxul/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/convertrpmrc.sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/getpo.sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/u_pkg.sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides.sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides2.sh /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh /usr/local/lib/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/lib/llvm-gcc-2.8/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.2/4.2.1/install-tools/fixinc.sh Two files (the `/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5/tclConfig.sh' one and the `s/tcl/tk/g' one) are actually shell script libraries (defining a bunch of variables), and all the others are ancillary scripts, that would maybe better fit in `/usr/local/libexec'. So, practical experience does not really second my a priori that these files sould go under the `share' hierarchy and I would like to have your opinion on this question. -- Best Regards, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
