Re: Ports/Packages Philosophy
On 5/6/08, Dsiuh Djsids [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what some of your software installing/updating philosophies are regarding ports/packages on either a server or a home desktop. For example, how often do you update your software and when you do, do you run something like 'portupgrade -a' or individually take care of each piece of software? Upgrades...unless they're very pressing security issues that directly relate to the well-being of my server, I upgrade as rarely as possible. Upgrading things has a tendency to break stuff at the most inopportune time. Frankly, I'm not sure why everyone is so adamant about having the latest updates. If the program does what I require, I would rather have a more aged version which has been given time to get the bugs worked out. As far as building software, I do this as rarely as possible as well. Unless there is a specific functionality which requires a set of non-default compiler flags, I use packages. It makes no sense to waste time re-compiling the same program, with the same compiler options, for the same processor architecture as has already been done by countless others. For example, if you ran a lab of 300 identical computers, would you re-compile every program on each computer? Probably not. If I can get a pre-compiled binary from a reliable source, I'd rater do that, than sit around all day waiting for software to build in hopes of benefiting from a few custom build options. My 2 cents worth. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ports/Packages Philosophy
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:53:37 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports/Packages Philosophy On 5/6/08, Dsiuh Djsids [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what some of your software installing/updating philosophies are regarding ports/packages on either a server or a home desktop. For example, how often do you update your software and when you do, do you run something like 'portupgrade -a' or individually take care of each piece of software? Upgrades...unless they're very pressing security issues that directly relate to the well-being of my server, I upgrade as rarely as possible. Upgrading things has a tendency to break stuff at the most inopportune time. Frankly, I'm not sure why everyone is so adamant about having the latest updates. If the program does what I require, I would rather have a more aged version which has been given time to get the bugs worked out. As far as building software, I do this as rarely as possible as well. Unless there is a specific functionality which requires a set of non-default compiler flags, I use packages. It makes no sense to waste time re-compiling the same program, with the same compiler options, for the same processor architecture as has already been done by countless others. For example, if you ran a lab of 300 identical computers, would you re-compile every program on each computer? Probably not. If I can get a pre-compiled binary from a reliable source, I'd rater do that, than sit around all day waiting for software to build in hopes of benefiting from a few custom build options. something to think about to is that the ports collection will be more current than packages. Example of this is GNOME 2.16 being listed in packages collection for a while after GNOME 2.18 came out. If you use a custom kernel, ports would be compiled to run a bit more optimized for your processor (i.e. 686) than the GENERIC kernel (486-586-686) but good coding of the program should not have this kind of reliance anyway. if you want the system up and running fast with known working versions, definitely stick with packages. if you want the latest software, use ports and keep them upgraded. its always a personal call. _ Get Free (PRODUCT) RED™ Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ports/Packages Philosophy
I am interested to know what some of your software installing/updating philosophies are regarding ports/packages on either a server or a home desktop. For example, how often do you update your software and when you do, do you run something like 'portupgrade -a' or individually take care of each piece of software? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports/Packages Philosophy
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 10:21:33AM -0700, Dsiuh Djsids wrote: I am interested to know what some of your software installing/updating philosophies are regarding ports/packages on either a server or a home desktop. For example, how often do you update your software and when you do, do you run something like 'portupgrade -a' or individually take care of each piece of software? Daily portupgrade -a with 1500+ packages installed on my laptop is more refreshing than reading slashdot with a cup of coffee. For real opinions look through the recent archives of this list, your question has come up surprisingly often in the last few weeks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports/Packages Philosophy
Dsiuh Djsids wrote: I am interested to know what some of your software installing/updating philosophies are regarding ports/packages on either a server or a home desktop. For example, how often do you update your software and when you do, do you run something like 'portupgrade -a' or individually take care of each piece of software? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i run portsnap 2x a day via cron and usually update within a day or 2. i always use ports and never packages. i use portmanager -a to upgrade. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
