Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, January 14, 2010 a las 01:40:26PM +0100, Bas Smeelen escribió:

 
  I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback servers as
  back-up disks.
  These are always connected to the servers for over half a year now.
  I have not had any problems with them and the price was ok.
  da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
  da1: Freecom Hard Drive XS 1.00 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
  da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
  da1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C)
  /dev/da1s1d on /usr/home/www/backup (ufs, local, soft-updates)
  This is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6
  
 

I have had two hard locks of the kernel until now using this drive;

the 1st while running the dump(1M) (a second dump went fine);
the 2nd while uncompressing the 88 GByte file of such a dump;

this is with
FreeBSD current.Sisis.de 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Jan 10 
09:55:14 CET 2010 g...@current.sisis.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

the 8-CURRENT is from CVS from May, 2009. Are there any know issues with
USB drives on havy load?

Thx

matthias

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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-21 Thread Bas Smeelen
Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Thursday, January 14, 2010 a las 01:40:26PM +0100, Bas Smeelen 
 escribió:

   
 I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback servers as
 back-up disks.
 These are always connected to the servers for over half a year now.
 I have not had any problems with them and the price was ok.
 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da1: Freecom Hard Drive XS 1.00 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
 da1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C)
 /dev/da1s1d on /usr/home/www/backup (ufs, local, soft-updates)
 This is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6
 
 

 I have had two hard locks of the kernel until now using this drive;

 the 1st while running the dump(1M) (a second dump went fine);
 the 2nd while uncompressing the 88 GByte file of such a dump;

 this is with
 FreeBSD current.Sisis.de 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Jan 10 
 09:55:14 CET 2010 g...@current.sisis.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

 the 8-CURRENT is from CVS from May, 2009. Are there any know issues with
 USB drives on havy load?
   
I have been tarring, gzipping and untarring files on the usb disk and
don't run into any trouble.
I also used dump to backup /usr to this disk without any problems
But this is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6

Are there any messages in /var/log/messages?



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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, January 21, 2010 a las 01:37:55PM +0100, Bas Smeelen escribió:

  I have had two hard locks of the kernel until now using this drive;
 
  the 1st while running the dump(1M) (a second dump went fine);
  the 2nd while uncompressing the 88 GByte file of such a dump;
 
  this is with
  FreeBSD current.Sisis.de 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Jan 10 
  09:55:14 CET 2010 g...@current.sisis.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  
  i386
 
  the 8-CURRENT is from CVS from May, 2009. Are there any know issues with
  USB drives on havy load?

 I have been tarring, gzipping and untarring files on the usb disk and
 don't run into any trouble.
 I also used dump to backup /usr to this disk without any problems
 But this is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6
 
 Are there any messages in /var/log/messages?

There is nothing in the messages;

1st lock:

Jan 19 10:18:21 current wpa_supplicant[433]: WPA: Group rekeying completed with 
00:23:69:2f:04:9c [GTK=TKIP]
Jan 19 10:21:16 current wpa_supplicant[433]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Jan 19 10:51:59 current syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Jan 19 10:51:59 current kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.

2nd lock:

Jan 21 10:59:35 current wpa_supplicant[433]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Jan 21 11:01:50 current kernel: pid 2919 (soffice.bin), uid 1001: exited on 
signal 11
Jan 21 11:04:37 current wpa_supplicant[433]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Jan 21 11:09:40 current wpa_supplicant[433]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Jan 21 11:14:43 current wpa_supplicant[433]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Jan 21 11:22:25 current syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Jan 21 11:22:25 current kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.


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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, January 14, 2010 a las 01:40:26PM +0100, Bas Smeelen escribió:

 It's only one partition. I created it with sysinstall.
 
 fb1:/ # fdisk /dev/da1
 *** Working on device /dev/da1 ***
 parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
 cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)
 
 Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
 cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)
 
 Media sector size is 512
 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
 Information from DOS bootblock is:
 The data for partition 1 is:
 sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
 start 63, size 2930272002 (1430796 Meg), flag 80 (active)
 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
 end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
 The data for partition 2 is:
 UNUSED
 The data for partition 3 is:
 UNUSED
 The data for partition 4 is:
 UNUSED
 fb1:/ # bsdlabel /dev/da1s1
 # /dev/da1s1:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   c: 29302720020unused0 0 # raw part,
 don't edit
   d: 293027200204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552

I've got my device and it comes with a pre-formatted msdosfs which can
be mounted with:

# mount -t msdosfs -o large /dev/da0s1 /mnt
# df -kh /mnt
current# df -kh
FilesystemSizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s11.4T115M1.4T 0%/mnt

I only want to use it as backup (created with dump(1M)) and I think it's
better to make an UFS on it;

matthias
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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

just buy the hard disk of your choice and put it into the case of 
your choice.

I use only disks which come with five years warrenty.

On 14 January 2010 pm 20:01:08 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Tuesday, January 12, 2010 a las 08:12:17AM +0100, Bas 
Smeelen escribió:
  I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback
  servers as back-up disks.

 Your /dev/da1s1d let me think that you have created more than
 one partition...

After a bad experience, I use as many slices as the machine uses I 
take the data from. I also backup the programs.

Then, I use for the external disk the same interface which I can 
use in the machine. So, if the internal hard disk fails, will be 
able to exchange the disks and boot. Ok, fstab might needs to be 
edited.

Erich
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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, January 12, 2010 a las 08:12:17AM +0100, Bas Smeelen escribió:

 I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback servers as
 back-up disks.
 These are always connected to the servers for over half a year now.
 I have not had any problems with them and the price was ok.
 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da1: Freecom Hard Drive XS 1.00 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
 da1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C)
 /dev/da1s1d on /usr/home/www/backup (ufs, local, soft-updates)
 This is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6

I ordered exactly this device.

Your /dev/da1s1d let me think that you have created more than one
partition...

matthias

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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-14 Thread Bas Smeelen

 I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback servers as
 back-up disks.
 These are always connected to the servers for over half a year now.
 I have not had any problems with them and the price was ok.
 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da1: Freecom Hard Drive XS 1.00 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
 da1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C)
 /dev/da1s1d on /usr/home/www/backup (ufs, local, soft-updates)
 This is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6
 

 I ordered exactly this device.

 Your /dev/da1s1d let me think that you have created more than one
 partition...

   matthias
   
It's only one partition. I created it with sysinstall.

fb1:/ # fdisk /dev/da1
*** Working on device /dev/da1 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=182401 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 2930272002 (1430796 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 3 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED
fb1:/ # bsdlabel /dev/da1s1
# /dev/da1s1:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 29302720020unused0 0 # raw part,
don't edit
  d: 293027200204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552



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Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-11 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

Can someone recommend a good external USB disk for backups which works
with FreeBSD 8.0 and has more than 512 GByte? Thx in advance

matthias
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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Jan 11, 2010, at 6:32 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:

 Can someone recommend a good external USB disk for backups which works
 with FreeBSD 8.0 and has more than 512 GByte? Thx in advance

Pretty much anything that you consider to be a reliable supplier will do.  
There are no specific FreeBSD requirements as far as I know.

I recommend that you get a disk that is externally powered instead of with 
power supplied over USB.

Earlier versions of FreeBSD had problems with USB connected devices.  In 
particular if they were removed or powered down without dismounting, this could 
lead to a kernel panic.  This problem has been fixed, but I still am extra 
careful with my USB backup disks:

(1)  Power for the back-up disks should be on a UPS
(2)  umount the file systems on the back-up disk when not in use.

Cheers,

-j


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Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-11 Thread Bas Smeelen
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
 On Jan 11, 2010, at 6:32 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:

   
 Can someone recommend a good external USB disk for backups which works
 with FreeBSD 8.0 and has more than 512 GByte? Thx in advance
 

 Pretty much anything that you consider to be a reliable supplier will do.  
 There are no specific FreeBSD requirements as far as I know.

 I recommend that you get a disk that is externally powered instead of with 
 power supplied over USB.
   
I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback servers as
back-up disks.
These are always connected to the servers for over half a year now.
I have not had any problems with them and the price was ok.
da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da1: Freecom Hard Drive XS 1.00 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
da1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182401C)
/dev/da1s1d on /usr/home/www/backup (ufs, local, soft-updates)
This is on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p6


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