Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:53:52PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:01:21PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: > > > >>Dear Support: > >> I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let > >>me > >>know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? > >> > >>And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. > >> > >>Thanks in advance. > >> > > > >All of this is well documented on the FreeBSD website (www.freebsd.org) > > > >For informatino on the mailing lists, go to: > > http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html > >or > > http://lists.FreeBSD.org/mailman/listinfo and look around. > > > >The version setup in FreeBSD can be a little confusing for newcomers > >because the terms stable and current are used in very specific ways - > >formally defined rather than in the more loose general conversation > >way we often use them. > > > >Current is the bleeding edge of development work - nothing is guaranteed > >and stable is the development branch that is actually intended to > >eventually > >become the next new version -- rather than current being the official > >present version out or stable being the most reliable version as one might > >guess from just the words before studying the documentation.. > >Check this part of the handbook: > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html > > > >If you are a FreeBSD beginning, what you want is a RELEASE version. > >The latest at the moment are 6.3 and 7.0In the present form of > >the web page, the latest RELEASEs plus the next two are listed right > >there on the first page. > > > >Other information on upcoming releases can be found on the Release > >Engineering page: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html > > > >By the way, "releng" stands for Release Engineering here and when > >you track a version for security updates you track a RELENG version. > > > >So, if you installed FreeBSD 7.1, then in your csupfile you would put: > > > > *default tag=RELENG_7_1 > > > >That would get you the security updates for FreeBSD 7.1 > > > >If you wanted to jump up to stable you would put: > > > > *default tag=RELENG_7 > > > >and that would be the stable version of the FreeBSD 7 branch. > >But, the funny thing about it is that the STABLE line is not mean > >that it is actually stable. They try to assure that it compiles > >and builds. And, usually it is pretty good. But it hasn't gone > >through all the official builds and been run against all the known > >problem sets as has a RELEASE when it is 'released'. > > > >So, for now, just install a RELEASE - probably 7.1 if you can wait > >or 7.0 right now and track the security fixes by csup-ing to RELENG_7_1 > >or RELENG_7_0 > > > >Have fun, > > > >jerry > If using a release, can he not use freebsd-update to keep current on > fixes rather than rebuilding everything? On a slow system, the more > binary the better. As far as I know. But, somehow I feel cleaner doing the whole thing. I haven't found the builds to take all that long. This system is not blindingly fast but, I suppose there are others that are much slower. jerry > > -Steve > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:53:52 -0600, "Steven Susbauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If using a release, can he not use freebsd-update to keep current on > fixes rather than rebuilding everything? On a slow system, the more > binary the better. Of course he can, I mean, that's what freebsd-update is intended for. At least, it's very useful if you want to follow the RELEASE path and only install the various security patches, so you don't have 7-STABLE, but, for example, 7.1-RELEASE-p5. This is a situation you will usually find on servers. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:01:21PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: Dear Support: I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. Thanks in advance. All of this is well documented on the FreeBSD website (www.freebsd.org) For informatino on the mailing lists, go to: http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html or http://lists.FreeBSD.org/mailman/listinfo and look around. The version setup in FreeBSD can be a little confusing for newcomers because the terms stable and current are used in very specific ways - formally defined rather than in the more loose general conversation way we often use them. Current is the bleeding edge of development work - nothing is guaranteed and stable is the development branch that is actually intended to eventually become the next new version -- rather than current being the official present version out or stable being the most reliable version as one might guess from just the words before studying the documentation.. Check this part of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html If you are a FreeBSD beginning, what you want is a RELEASE version. The latest at the moment are 6.3 and 7.0In the present form of the web page, the latest RELEASEs plus the next two are listed right there on the first page. Other information on upcoming releases can be found on the Release Engineering page: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html By the way, "releng" stands for Release Engineering here and when you track a version for security updates you track a RELENG version. So, if you installed FreeBSD 7.1, then in your csupfile you would put: *default tag=RELENG_7_1 That would get you the security updates for FreeBSD 7.1 If you wanted to jump up to stable you would put: *default tag=RELENG_7 and that would be the stable version of the FreeBSD 7 branch. But, the funny thing about it is that the STABLE line is not mean that it is actually stable. They try to assure that it compiles and builds. And, usually it is pretty good. But it hasn't gone through all the official builds and been run against all the known problem sets as has a RELEASE when it is 'released'. So, for now, just install a RELEASE - probably 7.1 if you can wait or 7.0 right now and track the security fixes by csup-ing to RELENG_7_1 or RELENG_7_0 Have fun, jerry If using a release, can he not use freebsd-update to keep current on fixes rather than rebuilding everything? On a slow system, the more binary the better. -Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:01:21PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: > Dear Support: > > I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me > know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? > > And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. > > Thanks in advance. > All of this is well documented on the FreeBSD website (www.freebsd.org) For informatino on the mailing lists, go to: http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html or http://lists.FreeBSD.org/mailman/listinfo and look around. The version setup in FreeBSD can be a little confusing for newcomers because the terms stable and current are used in very specific ways - formally defined rather than in the more loose general conversation way we often use them. Current is the bleeding edge of development work - nothing is guaranteed and stable is the development branch that is actually intended to eventually become the next new version -- rather than current being the official present version out or stable being the most reliable version as one might guess from just the words before studying the documentation.. Check this part of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html If you are a FreeBSD beginning, what you want is a RELEASE version. The latest at the moment are 6.3 and 7.0In the present form of the web page, the latest RELEASEs plus the next two are listed right there on the first page. Other information on upcoming releases can be found on the Release Engineering page: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html By the way, "releng" stands for Release Engineering here and when you track a version for security updates you track a RELENG version. So, if you installed FreeBSD 7.1, then in your csupfile you would put: *default tag=RELENG_7_1 That would get you the security updates for FreeBSD 7.1 If you wanted to jump up to stable you would put: *default tag=RELENG_7 and that would be the stable version of the FreeBSD 7 branch. But, the funny thing about it is that the STABLE line is not mean that it is actually stable. They try to assure that it compiles and builds. And, usually it is pretty good. But it hasn't gone through all the official builds and been run against all the known problem sets as has a RELEASE when it is 'released'. So, for now, just install a RELEASE - probably 7.1 if you can wait or 7.0 right now and track the security fixes by csup-ing to RELENG_7_1 or RELENG_7_0 Have fun, jerry jerry > > > BR > > Alex > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
>Dear Support: > >I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me >know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? > >And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. > >Thanks in advance. > > >BR >Alex The latest stable version is a release like 7.0 or 6.3 Both are at the final stages of being replaced by 7.1 and 6.4 You subscribe to the mailing list by going to the following URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL Select the list and on that page you'll see Subscribing to freebsd-(listname) Fill in your e-mailadres and follow the instructions Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date: 2-11-2008 19:08 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:01:21 +0800 "Alex Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me > know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html > And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565|http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 pgpFi55vDLfTe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Question: the stable edition of Freebsd
Dear Support: I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. Thanks in advance. BR Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
