Re: Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-23 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 12:56:26PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

A number of software products use the Hauppauge WinTV 350 Personal
Video Recorder (what a stupid name!).  I've been planning to get one
for some time, but here in Australia the prices are ridiculous (more
than double what they are nearly anywhere else).  So I've decided to
have one sent from overseas.

Question: are all WinTV 350s the same?  In Australia we have the same
standards as in most of Europe (PAL, not NTSC), and the tuner
frequencies are also the same as those in Europe.  If I buy a card in
the USA, will it work here, or are there two different kinds of card,
depending on where they're sold?

The web site is not of much help.  To help me decide, it would be nice
to hear from somebody with experience with the cards who can tell me a
definite answer to at least one of these questions:

* Are there separate versions for different countries?
* Does the device you have support both PAL and NTSC?
* Does the tuner on your device support both European and US
  frequencies?
* What kind of antenna connector does your card have?  US TVs tend to
  have a screw-on connector, while European one tend to have a push-on
  connector.

Other information, in particular where I can get them cheap, would
also be appreciated.


You may find some useful info in this article:

http://arstechnica.com/guide/audio-visual/videocapturing/vidcap-1.html

Email me offline if you want me to send you the PDF of it.

 - aW
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Re: Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-23 Thread Yaraghchi, Stephan
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 A number of software products use the Hauppauge WinTV 350 Personal
 Video Recorder (what a stupid name!).  I've been planning to get one
 for some time, but here in Australia the prices are ridiculous (more
 than double what they are nearly anywhere else).  So I've decided to
 have one sent from overseas.
 
 Question: are all WinTV 350s the same?  In Australia we have the same
 standards as in most of Europe (PAL, not NTSC), and the tuner
 frequencies are also the same as those in Europe.  If I buy a card in
 the USA, will it work here, or are there two different kinds of card,
 depending on where they're sold?
 
 The web site is not of much help.  To help me decide, it would be nice
 to hear from somebody with experience with the cards who can tell me a
 definite answer to at least one of these questions:
 
 * Are there separate versions for different countries?
 * Does the device you have support both PAL and NTSC?
 * Does the tuner on your device support both European and US
   frequencies?
 * What kind of antenna connector does your card have?  US TVs tend to
   have a screw-on connector, while European one tend to have a push-on
   connector.
 
 Other information, in particular where I can get them cheap, would
 also be appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Greg
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Hi Greg,

I searched the German web page of Hauppauge
(http://www.hauppauge.de/) for answers to your questions:
There's nothing mentioned about the tuner part.
But this card also features MPEG2 encoder hardware that's
capable of encoding an NTSC signal.

On the page there's a reg file
(http://www.hauppauge.de/files/pvr2_pal_ntsc.zip) to apply
the correct parameters to the Windows registry.
Actually I have no clue how to put this into effect on a
FreeBSD machine.

Maybe you should ask the manufacturer directly...
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You mentioned that standards in Europe are the same.
Why don't you order the card in Germany for example.
Try to consult http://www.preissuchmaschine.de to find
a dealer offering a reasonable price.
As of today the cheapest offer I found was around EUR 165,--
(about AUD 290,--)

Greetings,

Stephan Yaraghchi.
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Re: Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-23 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 12:56:26PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 A number of software products use the Hauppauge WinTV 350 Personal
 Video Recorder (what a stupid name!).  I've been planning to get one
 for some time, but here in Australia the prices are ridiculous (more
 than double what they are nearly anywhere else).  So I've decided to
 have one sent from overseas.
 
 Question: are all WinTV 350s the same?  In Australia we have the same
 standards as in most of Europe (PAL, not NTSC), and the tuner
 frequencies are also the same as those in Europe.  If I buy a card in
 the USA, will it work here, or are there two different kinds of card,
 depending on where they're sold?
 
 The web site is not of much help.  To help me decide, it would be nice
 to hear from somebody with experience with the cards who can tell me a
 definite answer to at least one of these questions:
 
 * Are there separate versions for different countries?
 * Does the device you have support both PAL and NTSC?
 * Does the tuner on your device support both European and US
   frequencies?
 * What kind of antenna connector does your card have?  US TVs tend to
   have a screw-on connector, while European one tend to have a push-on
   connector.
 
 Other information, in particular where I can get them cheap, would
 also be appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Greg
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I can't help with the regional issues or recording aspects; but I can tell you that 
the USB WinTV product was not detected by FreeBSD 4.9.  I haven't checked since then.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-23 Thread Danny Pansters
On Wednesday 23 June 2004 05:26, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 A number of software products use the Hauppauge WinTV 350 Personal
 Video Recorder (what a stupid name!).  I've been planning to get one
 for some time, but here in Australia the prices are ridiculous (more
 than double what they are nearly anywhere else).  So I've decided to
 have one sent from overseas.

 Question: are all WinTV 350s the same?  In Australia we have the same
 standards as in most of Europe (PAL, not NTSC), and the tuner
 frequencies are also the same as those in Europe.  If I buy a card in

There's only PAL and NTSC and any TV card should support both. WinTV and 
almost every other have a bktr 848/878 capture chip. That;s the one you want 
in any case. As for the tuner they all work alike and should support both pal 
as NTSC and the Fench standard (SEcam?) as well as 34xx audio (which is 
usually most easily dealt with by just plugging it from the tv card audio-out 
into the soundcard audio-in. A cheap bktr card should cost up to 100-200 euro 
max these days.

 the USA, will it work here, or are there two different kinds of card,
 depending on where they're sold?

No tuners are univrsal but they just have different definitions for different 
rendering tech.

 The web site is not of much help.  To help me decide, it would be nice
 to hear from somebody with experience with the cards who can tell me a
 definite answer to at least one of these questions:

Get a cheapo wintv with a bktr787 chip

 * Are there separate versions for different countries?

Possibly but it technically means nothing IMO

 * Does the device you have support both PAL and NTSC?

Yes and every one should as well as SECAM

 * Does the tuner on your device support both European and US
   frequencies?

Yes any Phillips or other standard one should.

 * What kind of antenna connector does your card have?  US TVs tend to
   have a screw-on connector, while European one tend to have a push-on
   connector.

push on for coax there can be a lot of interference (even using cable 
broadcast via coax as is usual here in N europe)

 Other information, in particular where I can get them cheap, would
 also be appreciated.

Like I said before get the cheapest bktr supported card (beware these tuner 
cards may get overheated and burn out at least the ones from a few years ago 
could -- proof on pic)

 Thanks in advance

HTH,

Dan
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Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-22 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
A number of software products use the Hauppauge WinTV 350 Personal
Video Recorder (what a stupid name!).  I've been planning to get one
for some time, but here in Australia the prices are ridiculous (more
than double what they are nearly anywhere else).  So I've decided to
have one sent from overseas.

Question: are all WinTV 350s the same?  In Australia we have the same
standards as in most of Europe (PAL, not NTSC), and the tuner
frequencies are also the same as those in Europe.  If I buy a card in
the USA, will it work here, or are there two different kinds of card,
depending on where they're sold?

The web site is not of much help.  To help me decide, it would be nice
to hear from somebody with experience with the cards who can tell me a
definite answer to at least one of these questions:

* Are there separate versions for different countries?
* Does the device you have support both PAL and NTSC?
* Does the tuner on your device support both European and US
  frequencies?
* What kind of antenna connector does your card have?  US TVs tend to
  have a screw-on connector, while European one tend to have a push-on
  connector.

Other information, in particular where I can get them cheap, would
also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Greg
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Re: Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-22 Thread Jorge Mario G.
Hi there

I have a leadtek card which I bought in the USA
the box said NTSC, but when I went to europe I did not
have any problem using it.
there is also some firmwares that let you change that
but I've never tried that.

it worked for me with no problems


Jorge

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Re: Questions about Hauppauge WinTV 350

2004-06-22 Thread Rob
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
A number of software products use the Hauppauge WinTV 350 Personal
Video Recorder (what a stupid name!).  I've been planning to get one
for some time, but here in Australia the prices are ridiculous (more
than double what they are nearly anywhere else).  So I've decided to
have one sent from overseas.
I'm in Korea, which supposed to follow USA standards.
I had such a TV card sent over from Europe and set the NTSC option
in the kernel configuration file.
I never got it work. I used FreeBSD, but all I got was sound, without
pictures. I installed recent Mandrake/Linux, that got me pictures but
no sound.
I'm not an expert at all in this TV/Computer stuff; so I gave up on it.
Either the TV-card is very sensitive to what computer I have (let me
not blame the OSes, but my hardware first), or it needs a computer-freak's
mind and intelligence to get it work. Or Korea has a not so standard NTSC
TV system.
Regards,
Rob.
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