Quota Questions 5.3 Release

2005-02-15 Thread Jon Adams
Hi,
~   Theres a high probablility this is a stupid question, but I
must ask it
Heres the situation:  I am leasing a server from a relatively well
known ISP in the DC area... It is installed w/ FreeBSD 5.3 Release
(Generic)
These geniuses gave me the box without the ports tree or the kernel
sources...  This wouldnt be a problem, except that, among other
things, they didnt compile in the quota support.  I desperately need it.
Questions:
1. Is there a kernel module to implement quota support (I have googled
incessantly trying to find it w/o much luck)
2. Is there a trivial way to get the kernel sources and ports tree
(and more importantly, how safe (in terms of the box coming back) is
it to recompile the kernel if I can get the sources) - they pretty
much killed about 50% of my reason for getting FBSD by leaving out the
ports WTF??.
3. Finally, out of curiousity, does anyone know why quota support is
left our of the stock FreeBSD Kernel, I am assuming there must be a
compelling reason for this... and are there any alternatives (short of
me writing lots of ugly code - which I have lacking time and
motivation for)
--
...
Jon Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Graduate Student, SCIS, Nova Southeastern University
http://www.scis.nova.edu/~jonaadam/
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(202) 494-2469 .:cell:.
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Re: Quota Questions 5.3 Release

2005-02-15 Thread Benjamin Dover
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:57:20 -0500, Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 ~   Theres a high probablility this is a stupid question, but I
 must ask it
 
 Heres the situation:  I am leasing a server from a relatively well
 known ISP in the DC area... It is installed w/ FreeBSD 5.3 Release
 (Generic)
 
 These geniuses gave me the box without the ports tree or the kernel
 sources...  This wouldnt be a problem, except that, among other
 things, they didnt compile in the quota support.  I desperately need it.
 
 Questions:
 
 1. Is there a kernel module to implement quota support (I have googled
 incessantly trying to find it w/o much luck)

Take a look at this section of the handbook
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/quotas.html

 
 2. Is there a trivial way to get the kernel sources and ports tree
 (and more importantly, how safe (in terms of the box coming back) is
 it to recompile the kernel if I can get the sources) - they pretty
 much killed about 50% of my reason for getting FBSD by leaving out the
 ports WTF??.

I would use sysinstall to install the ports tree.  if your not
familiar with it type man sysinstall
 
 3. Finally, out of curiousity, does anyone know why quota support is
 left our of the stock FreeBSD Kernel, I am assuming there must be a
 compelling reason for this... and are there any alternatives (short of
 me writing lots of ugly code - which I have lacking time and
 motivation for)

Its not left out its just not an standard option.  Compiling a kernel
is not a difficult task.  It sounds more difficult than it really is.
 
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 ...
 Jon Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Graduate Student, SCIS, Nova Southeastern University
 http://www.scis.nova.edu/~jonaadam/
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 (202) 494-2469 .:cell:.
 
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Re: Quota Questions 5.3 Release

2005-02-15 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:57:20 -0500
Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 2. Is there a trivial way to get the kernel sources and ports tree
 (and more importantly, how safe (in terms of the box coming back) is
 it to recompile the kernel if I can get the sources) - they pretty
 much killed about 50% of my reason for getting FBSD by leaving out the
 ports WTF??.

/stand/sysinstall is your friend. I just got done doing the same thing
on three remote 1U Dell machines without any problems. The first time I
recompiled the kernel was to get smp support for the Xeon with
hyperthreading and the second time was to enable quota support.

Here are the two urls that helped me with ports and compiling the
kernel. As long as you are careful to follow the instructions for
compiling the kernel, you should not have any problems.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html

Sorry I don't have the answers to any of your other questions.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: Quota Questions 5.3 Release

2005-02-15 Thread Jon Adams
Benjamin Dover wrote:
Take a look at this section of the handbook
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/quotas.html
 

Yes, I've read this and am aware of the process of recompiling the 
kernel to implement quotas (done it before). 
What I am looking for is an alternative to recompiling the kernel due to 
the cripppled box I have.

Its not left out its just not an standard option.  Compiling a kernel
is not a difficult task.  It sounds more difficult than it really is.
 

I agree...  I have FreeBSD 5.3 and a 5.1 box I have lazily not yet 
updated on a pair of poweredges in my apt,
I rebuilt the 5.3 kernel a couple of time when I was experimenting with 
trying to install Oracle 8i on it (before giving up in frustration due 
to the Oracle make files exiting emulation)

Thanks for the tip on sysinstall... D'oh
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Re: Quota Questions 5.3 Release

2005-02-15 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Feb 15, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Jon Adams wrote:
Benjamin Dover wrote:
Take a look at this section of the handbook
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/quotas.html
Yes, I've read this and am aware of the process of recompiling the 
kernel to implement quotas (done it before). What I am looking for is 
an alternative to recompiling the kernel due to the cripppled box I 
have.

Its not left out its just not an standard option.  Compiling a kernel
is not a difficult task.  It sounds more difficult than it really is.
I agree...  I have FreeBSD 5.3 and a 5.1 box I have lazily not yet 
updated on a pair of poweredges in my apt,
I rebuilt the 5.3 kernel a couple of time when I was experimenting 
with trying to install Oracle 8i on it (before giving up in 
frustration due to the Oracle make files exiting emulation)

Thanks for the tip on sysinstall... D'oh
I replied to Jon off list but wanted to stick it in here for the 
archives

You should be able to just install cvsup and then make an appropriate 
cvsupfile.  This will get you the sources and ports etc if you do it 
right.  One easy thing :-)

best
Chad
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