RE: Backup strategy for zfs + jail

2012-01-17 Thread Devin Teske


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 Subject: Backup strategy for zfs + jail
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a simple 1U server with two disks that I have configured as a jail
server.
 
 I want to setup a simple yet very efficient backup policy for my jail
environment.
 
 This server is running a ZFS filesystem.
 
 Ideally I would like to backup the main zfsroot/jail and all subdirectories on
a
 backup FTP server.
 
 
 . What kind of tool would you suggest ?
 
 I need to focus on :
 
 -- Simplicity of setup
 -- Ease of recovery
 -- Efficiency
 -- Compatibility with ZFS
 
 

If you're running 9, give HAST a shot.

TCP/IP block-level mirroring provided by HAST should be able to mirror the ZFS
container in near-RT and be tolerant of things like network issues.
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Re: Backup strategy for zfs + jail

2012-01-17 Thread Dmitry Sarkisov
On 17-01-2012, Tue [13:52:48], Devin Teske wrote:
 
 
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  Subject: Backup strategy for zfs + jail
  
  Hi,
  
  I have a simple 1U server with two disks that I have configured as a jail
 server.
  
  I want to setup a simple yet very efficient backup policy for my jail
 environment.
  
  This server is running a ZFS filesystem.
  
  Ideally I would like to backup the main zfsroot/jail and all subdirectories 
  on
 a
  backup FTP server.
  
  
  . What kind of tool would you suggest ?
  
  I need to focus on :
  
  -- Simplicity of setup
  -- Ease of recovery
  -- Efficiency
  -- Compatibility with ZFS
  
  
 
 If you're running 9, give HAST a shot.
 
 TCP/IP block-level mirroring provided by HAST should be able to mirror the ZFS
 container in near-RT and be tolerant of things like network issues.
 -- 
 Devin
 


I personally wouldn't rely on such a new technology as HAST, considering the 
importancy of backups.
ZFS has some nice features already. 

Create snapshots of your datasets and use zfs send. You can even transfer 
differences between snapshots.
Google for it. ZFS is awesome modern technology, more than that it's stable 
enough. ;)


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RE: Backup strategy for zfs + jail

2012-01-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar

-- Efficiency
-- Compatibility with ZFS




If you're running 9, give HAST a shot.
maybe a stupid question but what is a practical difference between hast 
and doing ggate+gmirror and setting prefer load balancing to local disk?

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Re: Backup strategy for zfs + jail

2012-01-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Create snapshots of your datasets and use zfs send. You can even transfer 
differences between snapshots.

and then try to recover data from these backups after a year or so ;)
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Re: Backup strategy for zfs + jail

2012-01-17 Thread bsd

Le 17 janv. 2012 à 22:52, Devin Teske a écrit :

 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:04 PM
 To: Liste FreeBSD
 Subject: Backup strategy for zfs + jail
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a simple 1U server with two disks that I have configured as a jail
 server.
 
 I want to setup a simple yet very efficient backup policy for my jail
 environment.
 
 This server is running a ZFS filesystem.
 
 Ideally I would like to backup the main zfsroot/jail and all subdirectories 
 on
 a
 backup FTP server.
 
 
 . What kind of tool would you suggest ?
 
 I need to focus on :
 
 -- Simplicity of setup
 -- Ease of recovery
 -- Efficiency
 -- Compatibility with ZFS
 
 
 
 If you're running 9, give HAST a shot.
 
 TCP/IP block-level mirroring provided by HAST should be able to mirror the ZFS
 container in near-RT and be tolerant of things like network issues.

Though HAST seems quite interesting I am not looking for a cluster solution. 
My FTP server is provided by my ISP, and Ideally I would like something that 
feets in that solution… 

So something like ZFS snapshots + some syncing level FTP service that will do 
the copy to the remote location… I don't really know if this approach will work 
with a ZFS snapshot, I use to work at file level using duplicity… works well 
though a bit heavy ! 


G.B. 

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Re: Backup strategy for zfs + jail

2012-01-17 Thread Dmitry Sarkisov
On 17-01-2012, Tue [23:31:30], Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
 Create snapshots of your datasets and use zfs send. You can even transfer 
 differences between snapshots.
 and then try to recover data from these backups after a year or so ;)

No one did mention the retention policy ;)

Jokes aside, we have a working solution with zfs/symantec netbackup combo based 
on incremental snapshots
for a pretty large datasets. 



To OP: you don't have to use ftp with zfs send/recieve (I doubt it is possible 
at all :) ), ssh suits better. 
Just _google_ for it. There are plenty of solutions/examples in the Net.

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