Re: DVD cloning tool
Well Here I use K9copy... it copies a 7.6Gb dvd into a 4.2Gb dvd+r and works like a charm very cool for example I have all the Corrs dvds (I bought the 5 ones...) but I use the copies to play... Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DVD cloning tool
Hi and thanks for your reply. On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:18:23 -0800, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > Your not going to find a tool like this under FreeBSD or any > freeOS that I know of. So I may conclude: There is no tool x for the following equation: cdrdao read-cd / writex -- = --- CD DVD > More and more commercial DVD's are coming these days with copy > protection on them. When the video DVD is read as an ISO, the > reader gets to a certain block in the DVD then commences to > return errors. Yes, they're called "Un-DVDs" (alike "Un-CDs") here in Germany, they're considered intentionally defective or damaged media. > I am not sure how the video playing software gets around it > but I suspect it sends a command to the reader. There are, at least in regards of SCSI (/dev/cd*) certain settings that the driver can be set to, how long to wait if errors occur, or what to do if errors occur (try again, search next). > The only program I know of that reads these is a Windows > program called DVD Fab. It's trialware, you can download > it and run it for a month. It also gets around the known > copy protection schemes used in BlueRay which are considerably > more sophisticated. There are handy tools that you can use on FreeBSD if, for example, you're trying to read data from a defective hard disk, such as dd_rescue. It has certain levels of how to deal with problems. Something similar is the "paranoia" setting of cdda2wav in regards of CDs. > If you can make an ISO of a video DVD with this program but > it fails using dd, then your dealing with copy protection. No, with defectively distributed media. :-) > For example rental DVD's of Pirates of the Carribean 3 and > Clone Wars both have this. I don't know if the versions you > buy have this as well, I suspect they don't since my guess is > someone is getting royalties on this scheme somewhere. Well, I'm not interested in copying bought DVDs primarily, simply because they're bigger than the available capacity of a DVD+/-R. My intention is to read in normal data DVDs (that, for example, someone else created) in one rush and then duplicate the content to another DVD. After having read the replies to my initial question, I think dd will do this job, so data DVDs and video DVDs (such that have been mastered in order to be playable in a standalone DVD player device) should be able to read. For copying DVDs, there's at least vobcopy. > I would love to see someone write some code to get around > this for use with dd program. Why not try dd_rescue (or was it ddrescue, they both exist)? > Of course, I know your NOT trying to illegally copy commercial > DVDs so it's not necessary for you to reply with protests. Heh. I'm a good guy, I love movie industry, hehe. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: DVD cloning tool
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org]on Behalf Of Polytropon > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:48 AM > To: Andrew Gould > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool > > > I'm searching for the same functionality applyable to DVD, > so I can easily clone video DVDs I made, as well as data DVDs > or DVDs with audio tracks (yes, this works, too). > > Hi Polytropon, Thought I would put in my $0.02 here. Your not going to find a tool like this under FreeBSD or any freeOS that I know of. The issue is one of assumptions. The so-called "cheap DVD"s that you speak of which have bad sectors, in actuality do NOT have bad sectors - at least, not randomly bad sectors, that is. More and more commercial DVD's are coming these days with copy protection on them. When the video DVD is read as an ISO, the reader gets to a certain block in the DVD then commences to return errors. I am not sure how the video playing software gets around it but I suspect it sends a command to the reader. The only program I know of that reads these is a Windows program called DVD Fab. It's trialware, you can download it and run it for a month. It also gets around the known copy protection schemes used in BlueRay which are considerably more sophisticated. If you can make an ISO of a video DVD with this program but it fails using dd, then your dealing with copy protection. For example rental DVD's of Pirates of the Carribean 3 and Clone Wars both have this. I don't know if the versions you buy have this as well, I suspect they don't since my guess is someone is getting royalties on this scheme somewhere. I would love to see someone write some code to get around this for use with dd program. Of course, I know your NOT trying to illegally copy commercial DVDs so it's not necessary for you to reply with protests. Heh. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DVD cloning tool
Thought readcd (out of cdrtools) also knew how to read DVD? at least some time ago i tried - it doesn't read ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 08:45:52PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >Agree that dd is good for simple CDs and DVDs but can't say that I know > >it will behave on multi-session or multi-format discs. > > the question was about DVD. dvd are not produced multisession or > multiformat. The above is contradicted below. *These* DVDs in question are known not multi-session? > and when copying multisession data DVD, it's much better to copy off > all files, possible add more and write as single session. Depends on what your homework assignment is. In the data center I was talking about one could make a good argument that the duplicate was to be multi-session if the original was. We don't know for sure it doesn't contain a presentation application or something counting on the multiple sessions. > actually it's rarely used. i never recorded even one multisession DVD > except once to test if it works :) On DVD-R it works badly, can only write 4 or 5 sessions and there is some huge buffer zone between each session, 200 to 500 MB. > with CD - you are right, but it was already told that readcd is OK. > > unfortunately AFAIK there is no similar tool for DVDs Thought readcd (out of cdrtools) also knew how to read DVD? -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
Agree that dd is good for simple CDs and DVDs but can't say that I know it will behave on multi-session or multi-format discs. the question was about DVD. dvd are not produced multisession or multiformat. and when copying multisession data DVD, it's much better to copy off all files, possible add more and write as single session. actually it's rarely used. i never recorded even one multisession DVD except once to test if it works :) with CD - you are right, but it was already told that readcd is OK. unfortunately AFAIK there is no similar tool for DVDs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 05:18:01PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >Thanks, dd is a good suggestion for ISO data. But what I need > > once again please do > man dd > > dd reads sector by sector. > > it won't work only for audio-sectors on CD , on DVD movies are stored > using "normal" 2K sectors Agree that dd is good for simple CDs and DVDs but can't say that I know it will behave on multi-session or multi-format discs. In years past there was an issue where some drives would return EOF with the last sector and others would wait until attempt to read past the last sector yet would return data. So with multiple generations of copy each generation got one block longer. Know this because 10 years ago working in a data warehouse I easily won the argument against using Windows to duplicate/distribute data on CD for lack of a disc verify utility. These days the Disk Utility in MacOS X automatically verifies. But back then under FreeBSD I used dd and handled EOF specially in my shell script. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
On Friday 05 December 2008 16:11:12 Polytropon wrote: > So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO > file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated > (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO > to destination DVD) if it can be avoided. It's not > neccessary to perform this operation from one drive > to the other, it's okay to have a temporary file > (first read, then burn). From the manpage: To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso where image.iso represents an arbitrary object in the filesystem, such as file, named pipe or device entry. Nothing is growing here and com- mand name is not intuitive in this context. So, while untested by me: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1=/dev/cd0 should work. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
Thanks, dd is a good suggestion for ISO data. But what I need once again please do man dd dd reads sector by sector. it won't work only for audio-sectors on CD , on DVD movies are stored using "normal" 2K sectors ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:42:58 -0600, "Andrew Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your CD or DVD is loaded (not mounted) at /dev/cd0, the following command > will create an iso image in the current directory: > > dd if=/dev/cd0 of=filename.iso bs=2048 > > If you want an easy process, you can put this in a script, followed by a > growisofs command to burn the file to another DVD device, allowing the > script to overwrite the previous DVD iso file. Or you could write a script > where you supply a name for the iso image file to maintain backup images. Thanks, dd is a good suggestion for ISO data. But what I need is a 1:1 copy no matter what the DVD actually contains - I know, I didn't mention this in a clear way, sorry. For example, the cdrdao command I mentioned before does copy the source 1:1 to the destination media, for cases such as - an ISO image (data CD) - audio tracks (music CD) - VCD - SVCD - video files without ISO enclosing (yes, my standalone player runs these, and it's easy to mplayer -fs /dev/cd0 to watch a movie that is an AVI or MPG file) - an ISO image *and* audio tracks I'm searching for the same functionality applyable to DVD, so I can easily clone video DVDs I made, as well as data DVDs or DVDs with audio tracks (yes, this works, too). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
dd if=/dev/cd0 of=filename.iso bs=2048 bs=64k or more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
I'd like to ask which program is the proper tool to copy a DVD(+|-)R 1:1 to another media of the same kind? It would be great if the program would have a good error tolerance for slightly defective media (which is a usual problem with cheap DVDs). I've always used cdrdao read-cd and afterwards cdrdao write for CD-R, but I cannot use this tool for DVDs, right? So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO man dd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DVD cloning tool
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Polytropon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to ask which program is the proper tool to copy > a DVD(+|-)R 1:1 to another media of the same kind? It > would be great if the program would have a good error > tolerance for slightly defective media (which is a usual > problem with cheap DVDs). > > I've always used cdrdao read-cd and afterwards cdrdao write > for CD-R, but I cannot use this tool for DVDs, right? > > So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO > file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated > (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO > to destination DVD) if it can be avoided. It's not > neccessary to perform this operation from one drive > to the other, it's okay to have a temporary file > (first read, then burn). > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > If your CD or DVD is loaded (not mounted) at /dev/cd0, the following command will create an iso image in the current directory: dd if=/dev/cd0 of=filename.iso bs=2048 If you want an easy process, you can put this in a script, followed by a growisofs command to burn the file to another DVD device, allowing the script to overwrite the previous DVD iso file. Or you could write a script where you supply a name for the iso image file to maintain backup images. I hope this helps. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
