Re: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-07 Thread David Jenkins
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 11:28:50 -0500, Joseph H. Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you've used the correct TAG in your cvsup files and have
> > cvsup'd over the last day or so, then you should build 5.3-RELEASE.
> >
>
> Which tag is the "correct" tag?

In your source-tree supfile you should have a line like:

*default tag=RELENG_5_3

Hope that helps.
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RE: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-07 Thread Joseph H. Fry

> > Also, does doing all of this bring me to the most recent stable
> > release? (I noticed that 5.3 was released yesterday,
> presumably just
> > after I downloaded 5.2.1).
>
> If you've used the correct TAG in your cvsup files and have
> cvsup'd over the last day or so, then you should build 5.3-RELEASE.
>

Which tag is the "correct" tag?

 Joe Fry 
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Re: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:49:03AM +, David Jenkins wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:59:50 -0500, Joseph H. Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks!  So you can do everything in multiuser mode, or do you still
> > have to drop to single user mode to actually install the new kernel and
> > new system binaries?
> > 
> > Also, does doing all of this bring me to the most recent stable release?
> > (I noticed that 5.3 was released yesterday, presumably just after I
> > downloaded 5.2.1).
> 
> I've done it once in multiuser mode and it all went fine. I did read
> somewhere that if you do have to do it this way because getting
> physical access to the machine is difficult, then make sure you shut
> down as many services/processes as you can. i.e just make sure sshd is
> the only daemon running etc ...
> 
> If you've used the correct TAG in your cvsup files and have cvsup'd
> over the last day or so, then you should build 5.3-RELEASE.

Another alternative, if you have more than one unixoid machine in your
basement, is to set up your FreeBSD box to use a serial console, and
string a null-modem cable from it to another machine.  On the second
machine you can use a terminal emulation program -- tip(1), kermit,
even Windows Hyperterm to access the serial console on the FreeBSD
box.  This lets you drop to single user and still have remote access.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-07 Thread David Jenkins
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:59:50 -0500, Joseph H. Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks!  So you can do everything in multiuser mode, or do you still
> have to drop to single user mode to actually install the new kernel and
> new system binaries?
> 
> Also, does doing all of this bring me to the most recent stable release?
> (I noticed that 5.3 was released yesterday, presumably just after I
> downloaded 5.2.1).

I've done it once in multiuser mode and it all went fine. I did read
somewhere that if you do have to do it this way because getting
physical access to the machine is difficult, then make sure you shut
down as many services/processes as you can. i.e just make sure sshd is
the only daemon running etc ...

If you've used the correct TAG in your cvsup files and have cvsup'd
over the last day or so, then you should build 5.3-RELEASE.

Hope this helps.

David
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Re: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-06 Thread Gerard Samuel
Joseph H. Fry wrote:
Once in single user mode, ssh is out of the question.  In single user
mode, only
*person* can login, and that is at the actual terminal.
Depending on the situation, for example.  My firewall is at the other
side of the
house, without a keyboard/monitor.
Since the box doesn't have any other logged in users, I
normally build world in multi user mode. Doing so is taking a
chance with the success of the build world, but like I said,
it depends on the situation...
   

Thanks!  So you can do everything in multiuser mode, or do you still
have to drop to single user mode to actually install the new kernel and
new system binaries?
 

I've done everything in multiuser mode on more than one occasion.
Also, does doing all of this bring me to the most recent stable release?
(I noticed that 5.3 was released yesterday, presumably just after I
downloaded 5.2.1).
You probably will have 5.3 sources if you used RELENG_5.3.
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RE: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-06 Thread Joseph H. Fry
> Once in single user mode, ssh is out of the question.  In single user
> mode, only
> *person* can login, and that is at the actual terminal.
> Depending on the situation, for example.  My firewall is at the other
> side of the
> house, without a keyboard/monitor.
> Since the box doesn't have any other logged in users, I
> normally build world in multi user mode. Doing so is taking a
> chance with the success of the build world, but like I said,
> it depends on the situation...

Thanks!  So you can do everything in multiuser mode, or do you still
have to drop to single user mode to actually install the new kernel and
new system binaries?

Also, does doing all of this bring me to the most recent stable release?
(I noticed that 5.3 was released yesterday, presumably just after I
downloaded 5.2.1).

Thanks again,

 Joe Fry 
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Re: First questions: rebuilding world

2004-11-06 Thread Gerard Samuel
Joseph H. Fry wrote:
Hello everyone!
Seeing as how this is my first post to this fine mailing list, I first
want to make sure that my message is formatted properly.  I'm using MS
Outlook (cringe) and don't want to offend anyone if it's formatted
incorrectly.
 

Looks fine to me in Thunderbird...
Anyway, on to my real question.  I have my system installed, and have
CVSup-ed my source... So I think I'm ready to rebuild the world.
However, considering that my BSD box is in a remote out of the way
location in my basement, I am using ssh to do as much as possible on the
box.  Can I rebuild my system via ssh, or do I NEED to work directly on
the machine?  Can I drop into single user mode and still access the
system via ssh (I know, sounds like I answered my own question, but hey
we newbies never know)
 

Once in single user mode, ssh is out of the question.  In single user 
mode, only
*person* can login, and that is at the actual terminal.
Depending on the situation, for example.  My firewall is at the other 
side of the
house, without a keyboard/monitor.
Since the box doesn't have any other logged in users, I normally
build world in multi user mode.
Doing so is taking a chance with the success of the build world,
but like I said, it depends on the situation...
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