Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread albi
Richard Morse wrote:
Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X.  But, I 
figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh 
-X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the 
display.  However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I 
`ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set.
did you enable X-forwarding in the sshd-config ? afaik indeed only the 
X-libraries are needed to make remote X over ssh work

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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before
installing any additional software.
setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0
   
  |
Your actual X-Server -´
If you are using a bourn shell you need to use export
instead of setenv.
Richard Morse schrieb:
Hi!  I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server.  
Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal 
is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a 
command-line.

Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me.
I need to install the Oracle client software on this computer -- it 
won't actually be an Oracle server, but does need to be able to connect 
to various other servers (mostly from PHP and DBD::Oracle).

Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X.  But, I 
figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh 
-X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the 
display.  However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I 
`ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set.

What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work?
Thanks,
Ricky Morse
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 02:06:20PM -0500, Richard Morse wrote:
 Hi!  I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server.  
 Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal 
 is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a 
 command-line.
 
 Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me.
 
... snip ...
 
 What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work?
 
On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on remote
X servers.  From a remote host use a command similar to:

xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller

where: 
  xserver = your X workstation
  xclient = your server w/xorg-libraries installed


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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Morse
On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:34 PM, Doug Poland wrote:
On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on 
remote
X servers.  From a remote host use a command similar to:

xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com 
/path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller
Hi!  When I do this, runInstaller complains that $DISPLAY is not 
set... (but see my other responses for more info...)

Thanks,
Ricky
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Morse
On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:15 PM, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before
installing any additional software.
setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0

   |
Your actual X-Server -´
Hi!  I tried this (I had to use xhost first on my local machine), and 
it sort of works.  I get a lot of errors about fonts, and the Oracle 
installer keeps throwing various java exceptions and not doing 
anything, but I don't know if that's because of problems with the 
installer or the X connection.  The font errors I get are:

	Font specified in font.properties not found 
[--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]

if you have any idea what I'm missing that would solve this...
Thanks muchly,
Ricky
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 03:32:10PM -0500, Richard Morse wrote:
 On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:34 PM, Doug Poland wrote:
 
 On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on
 remote X servers.? From a remote host use a command similar to:
 
 xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com 
 /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller
 
 Hi!  When I do this, runInstaller complains that $DISPLAY is not
 set... (but see my other responses for more info...)
 
You have xorg-libraries installed?
X11Forwarding yes in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config?  
If you changed sshd_config did you restart sshd?

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RE: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Pietralla, Siegfried P
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 Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X?
 
 
 On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:15 PM, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
 
  simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before
  installing any additional software.
 
  setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0
  
 |
  Your actual X-Server -´
 
 Hi!  I tried this (I had to use xhost first on my local machine), and 
 it sort of works.  I get a lot of errors about fonts, and the Oracle 
 installer keeps throwing various java exceptions and not doing 
 anything, but I don't know if that's because of problems with the 
 installer or the X connection.  The font errors I get are:
 
   Font specified in font.properties not found 
 [--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]
 
 if you have any idea what I'm missing that would solve this...
 
 Thanks muchly,
 Ricky


hi ricky,

this is the way to go - you definitely don't need anything X related on the
server - I've just done this recently ( albeit with hpux and reflection X ).
the install notes should tell you what version of java you need and that
should help you fix up those errors. the font thing I can't help you with -
perhaps you just need to install a font with those properties? or make sure
all your fonts are on the right path / list / whatever ?

also, you could just use another X server - do you have a different working
unix workstation ( sgi, sun, hp, etc )? or even a p.c. running reflection X
or exceed. but note that I can't get cygwin to work for me - I only get
about a quarter of the initial installer screen to show up so I have to kill
it - although it's still worth a quick try if you have a windows box.

hth,
siegfried.
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
albi wrote:
Richard Morse wrote:
Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X.  But, I 
figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via 
`ssh -X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do 
the display.  However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', 
when I `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set.

did you enable X-forwarding in the sshd-config ? afaik indeed only the 
X-libraries are needed to make remote X over ssh work

For X-forwarding to work, you need to have /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth on your 
server. That is, you have to install xorg-clients too.

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