Re: Processor question
Hi, On Thursday 16 February 2012 17:20:23 krad wrote: On 14 February 2012 20:28, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Mike Dockery wrote: Greetings, Aloha, I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first place. They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone. Freedom of choice is always best. Yeah, I used to use Linux but they became a bunch of Freedom Nazis controlled by big companies. Happily using FreeBSD for 10 years. My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? Generally, for an x86 machine with 4GB or greater memory use amd64. Memory less than that use i386. I would actually say 3GB or more, as if you have a machine at 4gb and run a 32bit os you waste the best part of a gig or more due to pci addressing etc I would use the amd64 version in any case. I was forced once to switch because I needed more than 4GB memory for a single application. I noticed then that most things went smoother then. Erich ie. you almost certainly want to use amd64, I should think. I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month. Excellent. Best of luck and any problems not covered in the handbook or google, post here. Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks, Mike Dockery Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Processor question
On 14 February 2012 20:28, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Mike Dockery wrote: Greetings, Aloha, I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first place. They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone. Freedom of choice is always best. Yeah, I used to use Linux but they became a bunch of Freedom Nazis controlled by big companies. Happily using FreeBSD for 10 years. My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? Generally, for an x86 machine with 4GB or greater memory use amd64. Memory less than that use i386. I would actually say 3GB or more, as if you have a machine at 4gb and run a 32bit os you waste the best part of a gig or more due to pci addressing etc ie. you almost certainly want to use amd64, I should think. I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month. Excellent. Best of luck and any problems not covered in the handbook or google, post here. Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks, Mike Dockery Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Processor question
AMD As this just means 64 bit On Feb 14, 2012 8:02 PM, Mike Dockery mdock...@hargray.com wrote: Greetings, I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first place. They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone. Freedom of choice is always best. My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month. Thanks, Mike Dockery __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Processor question
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Mike Dockery wrote: Greetings, Aloha, I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first place. They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone. Freedom of choice is always best. Yeah, I used to use Linux but they became a bunch of Freedom Nazis controlled by big companies. Happily using FreeBSD for 10 years. My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? Generally, for an x86 machine with 4GB or greater memory use amd64. Memory less than that use i386. ie. you almost certainly want to use amd64, I should think. I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month. Excellent. Best of luck and any problems not covered in the handbook or google, post here. Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks, Mike Dockery Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html pgpefdLHhUn6G.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Processor question
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dockery Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Processor question Greetings, I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first place. They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone. Freedom of choice is always best. My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month. Thanks, Mike Dockery ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Up to you if you want 32-bit or 64 -bit. Used to be that some of the higher level ports only worked in 32-bit but more and more have been tweaked to work on both now. If you have 4GB or more memory, def recommend amd64. -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Processor question
On 14/02/2012 19:47, Mike Dockery wrote: My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? Choose amd64 by default, unless you have a specific application that requires an i386 system. Even if you have less than 4GiB RAM. Be aware that most 32bit apps can be run on a 64bit system. The converse is not true. Also, it's a lot easier to pop in some extra RAM sticks, than it is to convert from i386 to amd64 and then pop in some extra RAM sticks... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Processor question
On 14/02/2012 21:28, Nerius Landys wrote: If you do choose 32 bit, you can compile the PAE kernel which will allow access to all of your memory, but you'll still be limited to under 4 GB per process memory. Better pray all your devices have PAE compatible drivers then. PAE is an obsolete bodge. A sticking plaster for people stuck with 32-bit processors but who needed lots of RAM. Just be glad you have 64-bit capable processors nowadays so you don't ever need to use it. The sooner it fades into history, the better. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Processor question
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:47:08 -0500 Mike Dockery wrote: Greetings, I have been a user of Linux since 1994, but most of the linux distros seem to be getting away from freedom... which is why I chose it in the first place. They seem intent on forcing things that do not work well (like pulseaudio and nouveau) on everyone. Freedom of choice is always best. Far be it for me to stop you from adventuring into the FreeBSD world, I encourage you actually. :-) However, note that you always had and will have the freedom of choice. One Linux distribution might have chosen to go the pulseaudio way (binary-only ones usually do), but FreeBSD inspired ones, with ports-like features, offer you the choice to go plain ALSA or even OSS (Crux, Gentoo etc.). In what concerns nouveau, I'm afraid there's no running away from it. Reverse engineering close source drivers for modern GPU-s is an incredibly hard task. FreeBSD will likely get nouveau when KMS gets finished (soon I hear?). Until then, the good old nVidia blob will do. So instead of seeing FreeBSD as a place of retreat, see it as an adventure! :-) My question is: Should I try the amd64 version of FreeBSD with my Intel Core i7-2600 processor or should I use the i386? Definitely amd64. I hope to give FreeBSD a try later this month. -- Mihai Donțu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Processor question
If you do choose 32 bit, you can compile the PAE kernel which will allow access to all of your memory, but you'll still be limited to under 4 GB per process memory. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
