Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-08 Thread JD Arnold

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

On 2006-01-07 15:25, JD Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Danial Thom wrote:

--- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:

Sean wrote:

Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.  I have
been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back
to the beginning.

I forgot to mention that I wish to work withC/C++

There's a free C++ book which is great:
http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.

I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to be an effective unix
programmer you must master the C language, as you'll have to examine
and modify code in C to do anything substantial.  Virtually all major
programs and kernels are 'C' based.

I think, in general, this is wrong.


I think, in general, this is right.


And I think many professionals also feel that learning C++ is the
way to go.  If you just learning, you might as well start with
C++. For many good reasons, see Stroustrup's answer himself:

http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html


Which essentially boils down to learn C++ it's better and easier to
learn.  I very much disagree, but this is another flamewar, I guess.

Danial is right that there are many large programs out there that are
written in C, not C++.  This means that just learning C++ and hoping to
cope with it when an 11,000,000-line monster, written in plain C,
comes along is just not going to cut it.

Thus, learn both is a good answer, but I understand that this may be
quite impossible some times.


Jeez, you make it sound like the difference between C and C++ is like
the difference between learning English or learning Russian. I find it
difficult, if not impossible. to believe that someone who knew C++ would
be in any way shape or form be forced to cope with any gazillion line
C program. They'd probably be itching to do it better and more safely,
but if they were even the slightest bit proficient in C++, they'd know
pretty quickly what was going on in any C program. And the opposite is
absolutely not true.

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-08 Thread JD Arnold

Danial Thom wrote:


--- Michael P. Soulier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 07/01/06 Jorge Biquez said:


Hello all. Very interesting comments and

suggestions.

I hope my question does not seems too off
topic. Do you think the path to 

follow for developing applications for the
new PDA, Smartphones, Ipaq and 

similar devices it is the same? C or C++? I
have some friends that said it 

is the only way but I am not sure of that.

Any experiences or comments.?

With the kind of hardware that can be put into
a device like that these days,
it's hard to tell, but I tend to see C/C++.
Occasionally I see Java, sometimes
Python. 


There is no rule for this, you simply use the
right tool for the job.



Am I the only one that has noticed that virtually
everything written in Java sucks? I don't
understand why its used. Is having a program that
sucks on multiple platforms really an advantage
over having a program that is good on 1 or 2
platforms? I really don't get it.


You should read Joel Spotsky's diatribe against Java Schools, where
many colleges are stooping to teaching in Java, leaving most students
woefully unprepared for the real world, and making it hard for someone
to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to hiring:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread JD Arnold

Danial Thom wrote:


--- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:

Sean wrote:

Looking for recommendations on any Unix

programming books.

I have been out of things for a while so I

would put my skill level back

to the beginning.

Thanks
Sean


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I forgot to mention that I wish to work with

C/C++

Thanks again,
Sean
There's a free C++ book which is great : 


http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.

Nicolas



I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to
be an effective unix programmer you must master
the C language, as you'll have to examine and
modify code in C to do anything substantial.
Virtually all major programs and kernels are 'C'
based.


I think, in general, this is wrong.  And I think many professionals
also feel that learning C++ is the way to go.  If you just learning, 
you might as well start with C++. For many good reasons, see 
Stroustrup's answer himself:


http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

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RE: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Kiffin Gish
Just finished 'Accelerated C++' as a refresher and can highly recommend it
(though it is a bit advanced for a novice).

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 Danial Thom wrote:
  
  --- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
  Sean wrote:
  Looking for recommendations on any Unix
  programming books.
  I have been out of things for a while so I
  would put my skill level back
  to the beginning.
 
  Thanks
  Sean
 
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  C/C++
Thanks again,
Sean
  There's a free C++ book which is great :
 
  http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
  You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.
 
  Nicolas
 
  
  I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to
  be an effective unix programmer you must master
  the C language, as you'll have to examine and
  modify code in C to do anything substantial.
  Virtually all major programs and kernels are 'C'
  based.
 
 I think, in general, this is wrong.  And I think many 
 professionals also feel that learning C++ is the way to go. 
  If you just learning, 
 you might as well start with C++. For many good reasons, see 
 Stroustrup's answer himself:
 
 http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html
 
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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Nicolas Blais
On January 7, 2006 03:25 pm, JD Arnold wrote:
 Danial Thom wrote:
  --- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
  Sean wrote:
  Looking for recommendations on any Unix
 
  programming books.
 
  I have been out of things for a while so I
 
  would put my skill level back
 
  to the beginning.
 
  Thanks
  Sean
 
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  C/C++
 
Thanks again,
Sean
 
  There's a free C++ book which is great :
 
  http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
 
  You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.
 
  Nicolas
 
  I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to
  be an effective unix programmer you must master
  the C language, as you'll have to examine and
  modify code in C to do anything substantial.
  Virtually all major programs and kernels are 'C'
  based.

 I think, in general, this is wrong.  And I think many professionals
 also feel that learning C++ is the way to go.  If you just learning,
 you might as well start with C++. For many good reasons, see
 Stroustrup's answer himself:

 http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

I agree, that's how I started anyhow.  
Having done my CS degree couple years ago, I remember my Professor saying: 

Loose the pointers and start referencing! :)

Nicolas.

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-07 15:25, JD Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Danial Thom wrote:
--- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
Sean wrote:
 Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.  I have
 been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back
 to the beginning.

 I forgot to mention that I wish to work withC/C++

 There's a free C++ book which is great:
 http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
 You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.

 I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to be an effective unix
 programmer you must master the C language, as you'll have to examine
 and modify code in C to do anything substantial.  Virtually all major
 programs and kernels are 'C' based.

 I think, in general, this is wrong.

I think, in general, this is right.

 And I think many professionals also feel that learning C++ is the
 way to go.  If you just learning, you might as well start with
 C++. For many good reasons, see Stroustrup's answer himself:

 http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

Which essentially boils down to learn C++ it's better and easier to
learn.  I very much disagree, but this is another flamewar, I guess.

Danial is right that there are many large programs out there that are
written in C, not C++.  This means that just learning C++ and hoping to
cope with it when an 11,000,000-line monster, written in plain C,
comes along is just not going to cut it.

Thus, learn both is a good answer, but I understand that this may be
quite impossible some times.

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Jorge Biquez

At 11:38 p.m. 07/01/2006 +0200, you wrote:

On 2006-01-07 15:25, JD Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Danial Thom wrote:
--- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
Sean wrote:
 Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.  I have
 been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back
 to the beginning.

 I forgot to mention that I wish to work withC/C++

 There's a free C++ book which is great:
 http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
 You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.

 I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to be an effective unix
 programmer you must master the C language, as you'll have to examine
 and modify code in C to do anything substantial.  Virtually all major
 programs and kernels are 'C' based.

 I think, in general, this is wrong.

I think, in general, this is right.

 And I think many professionals also feel that learning C++ is the
 way to go.  If you just learning, you might as well start with
 C++. For many good reasons, see Stroustrup's answer himself:

 http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

Which essentially boils down to learn C++ it's better and easier to
learn.  I very much disagree, but this is another flamewar, I guess.

Danial is right that there are many large programs out there that are
written in C, not C++.  This means that just learning C++ and hoping to
cope with it when an 11,000,000-line monster, written in plain C,
comes along is just not going to cut it.

Thus, learn both is a good answer, but I understand that this may be
quite impossible some times.


Hello all. Very interesting comments and suggestions.
I hope my question does not seems too off topic. Do you think the path to 
follow for developing applications for the new PDA, Smartphones, Ipaq and 
similar devices it is the same? C or C++? I have some friends that said it 
is the only way but I am not sure of that. Any experiences or comments.?


Take care

JB

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Danial Thom


--- JD Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Danial Thom wrote:
  
  --- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
  Sean wrote:
  Looking for recommendations on any Unix
  programming books.
  I have been out of things for a while so I
  would put my skill level back
  to the beginning.
 
  Thanks
  Sean
 
 
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  I forgot to mention that I wish to work
 with
  C/C++
Thanks again,
Sean
  There's a free C++ book which is great : 
 
 

http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
  You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.
 
  Nicolas
 
  
  I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order
 to
  be an effective unix programmer you must
 master
  the C language, as you'll have to examine and
  modify code in C to do anything substantial.
  Virtually all major programs and kernels are
 'C'
  based.
 
 I think, in general, this is wrong.  And I
 think many professionals
 also feel that learning C++ is the way to go. 
 If you just learning, 
 you might as well start with C++. For many good
 reasons, see 
 Stroustrup's answer himself:
 
 http://public.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html
 

The concept that skipping the education part of
it because C is too difficult is brilliant. I'll
bet you all the guys at Bell Labs know C though.

The question is, do you want to just write
programs or do you want to be a programmer? If
you buy a coffee table at AKEA and put it
together you're not a carpenter. Just as if you
slap together some C++ library code you're not a
programmer. There is a distinction.

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 07/01/06 Jorge Biquez said:

 Hello all. Very interesting comments and suggestions.
 I hope my question does not seems too off topic. Do you think the path to 
 follow for developing applications for the new PDA, Smartphones, Ipaq and 
 similar devices it is the same? C or C++? I have some friends that said it 
 is the only way but I am not sure of that. Any experiences or comments.?

With the kind of hardware that can be put into a device like that these days,
it's hard to tell, but I tend to see C/C++. Occasionally I see Java, sometimes
Python. 

There is no rule for this, you simply use the right tool for the job.

Mike
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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-07 Thread Danial Thom


--- Michael P. Soulier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 07/01/06 Jorge Biquez said:
 
  Hello all. Very interesting comments and
 suggestions.
  I hope my question does not seems too off
 topic. Do you think the path to 
  follow for developing applications for the
 new PDA, Smartphones, Ipaq and 
  similar devices it is the same? C or C++? I
 have some friends that said it 
  is the only way but I am not sure of that.
 Any experiences or comments.?
 
 With the kind of hardware that can be put into
 a device like that these days,
 it's hard to tell, but I tend to see C/C++.
 Occasionally I see Java, sometimes
 Python. 
 
 There is no rule for this, you simply use the
 right tool for the job.
 

Am I the only one that has noticed that virtually
everything written in Java sucks? I don't
understand why its used. Is having a program that
sucks on multiple platforms really an advantage
over having a program that is good on 1 or 2
platforms? I really don't get it.

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-06 Thread Danial Thom


--- Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 lars wrote:
 
  Martin Cracauer wrote:
 
  Sean wrote on Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at
 04:09:27PM -0500:
 
  Looking for recommendations on any Unix
 programming books.
  I have been out of things for a while so I
 would put my skill level 
  back to the beginning.
 
 
 
  W. Richard Steven's Advanced Programming in
 the Unix Environment,
  along with his Unix Network Programming
 are still classics and from
  what I have seen best by far.
 
  Martin
 
  I also recommend The Art of UNIX
 Programming by Eric S. Raymond
  for some cultural information on Unix
 programming.
 
  It's also available whole online for free at
 his website.
 
 Oddly, I think I wish this were not so ... I
 would say, everything I've 
 ever gotten that was free, turned out to be
 worth the price, and I just 
 would not want to devalue that man's tremendous
 contribution, in any 
 method whatsoever.  Even if it means that
 teeners starting out have to 
 beg a bit.

Oh please. Even books that aren't free are free
these days at the Border's library. Its all about
selling overpriced coffee.

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-06 08:25, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oddly, I think I wish this were not so ... I would say, everything
  I've ever gotten that was free, turned out to be worth the price,
  and I just would not want to devalue that man's tremendous
  contribution, in any method whatsoever.  Even if it means that
  teeners starting out have to beg a bit.

 Oh please. Even books that aren't free are free these days at the
 Border's library. Its all about selling overpriced coffee.

HEH!  That's true :)

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-05 Thread Martin Cracauer
Sean wrote on Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:09:27PM -0500: 
 
 Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
 I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back 
 to the beginning.

W. Richard Steven's Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment,
along with his Unix Network Programming are still classics and from
what I have seen best by far.

Martin
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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-05 Thread lars

Martin Cracauer wrote:
Sean wrote on Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:09:27PM -0500: 


Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back 
to the beginning.



W. Richard Steven's Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment,
along with his Unix Network Programming are still classics and from
what I have seen best by far.

Martin

I also recommend The Art of UNIX Programming by Eric S. Raymond
for some cultural information on Unix programming.

It's also available whole online for free at his website.
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RE: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-05 Thread Gayn Winters

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lars
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:25 PM
 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions
 Subject: Re: Programming Book(s)
 
 
 Martin Cracauer wrote:
  Sean wrote on Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:09:27PM -0500: 
  
 Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
 I have been out of things for a while so I would put my 
 skill level back 
 to the beginning.
  
  
  W. Richard Steven's Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment,
  along with his Unix Network Programming are still 
 classics and from
  what I have seen best by far.
  
  Martin
 I also recommend The Art of UNIX Programming by Eric S. Raymond
 for some cultural information on Unix programming.
 
 It's also available whole online for free at his website.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-05 Thread Chuck Robey

lars wrote:


Martin Cracauer wrote:


Sean wrote on Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:09:27PM -0500:


Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level 
back to the beginning.




W. Richard Steven's Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment,
along with his Unix Network Programming are still classics and from
what I have seen best by far.

Martin


I also recommend The Art of UNIX Programming by Eric S. Raymond
for some cultural information on Unix programming.

It's also available whole online for free at his website.


Oddly, I think I wish this were not so ... I would say, everything I've 
ever gotten that was free, turned out to be worth the price, and I just 
would not want to devalue that man's tremendous contribution, in any 
method whatsoever.  Even if it means that teeners starting out have to 
beg a bit.



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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-03 Thread Danial Thom


--- Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
  Sean wrote:
   Looking for recommendations on any Unix
 programming books.
   I have been out of things for a while so I
 would put my skill level back
   to the beginning.
  
   Thanks
   Sean
  
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  I forgot to mention that I wish to work with
 C/C++
 
  Thanks again,
  Sean
 
 There's a free C++ book which is great : 

http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
 
 You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.
 
 Nicolas
 

I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to
be an effective unix programmer you must master
the C language, as you'll have to examine and
modify code in C to do anything substantial.
Virtually all major programs and kernels are 'C'
based.

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RE: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-03 Thread Gayn Winters

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  On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
   Sean wrote:
Looking for recommendations on any Unix
  programming books.
I have been out of things for a while so I
  would put my skill level back
to the beginning.
   
Thanks
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  C/C++
  
 Thanks again,
 Sean
  
  There's a free C++ book which is great : 
 
 http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
  
  You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.
  
  Nicolas
  
 
 I'd recommend learning C before C++. In order to
 be an effective unix programmer you must master
 the C language, as you'll have to examine and
 modify code in C to do anything substantial.
 Virtually all major programs and kernels are 'C'
 based.
 
 DT

From the website referenced:

Chapter 3 is a fairly intense coverage of the C that's used in C++, but
if you're just getting started with all this it may be a little too
intense. To remedy this, the printed book contains a CD ROM training
course that gently introduces you to the C syntax that you need to
understand in order to take on C++ or Java.

-gayn

Bristol Systems Inc.
714/532-6776
www.bristolsystems.com 


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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-03 Thread John S

Sean wrote:


Sean wrote:



Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level 
back to the beginning.


Thanks
Sean
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I forgot to mention that I wish to work with C/C++

Thanks again,
Sean
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Check out the book reviews at the ACCU website:

http://www.accu.org

You're bound to find some good tips there.

/John

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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-02 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 1/2/06, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
 I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back
 to the beginning.

Depends on the language, but this is excellent.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131411543/qid=1136238096/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-0372073-4189410?s=booksv=glancen=283155

Mike
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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-02 Thread Sean

Sean wrote:


Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back 
to the beginning.


Thanks
Sean
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I forgot to mention that I wish to work with C/C++

Thanks again,
Sean
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Re: Programming Book(s)

2006-01-02 Thread Nicolas Blais
On January 2, 2006 04:52 pm, Sean wrote:
 Sean wrote:
  Looking for recommendations on any Unix programming books.
  I have been out of things for a while so I would put my skill level back
  to the beginning.
 
  Thanks
  Sean
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 I forgot to mention that I wish to work with C/C++

   Thanks again,
   Sean

There's a free C++ book which is great : 
http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

You can also buy the hardcopy on Amazon.

Nicolas

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