RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup....

2007-11-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:10 AM
> To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt'; 'Murray Taylor'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
>
>
> Thanks for the advice, I've noticed dansguardian and looked into it a
> little bit, I've also blocked some words which works but doesn't work
> because it kills some legitimate pages.
>
> I've also tossed around the idea with my Fiancé about locking them down
> to certain websites, but that is problematic with doing some school work
> (kids are 9 and 11) I think what bothers me most is them stumbling
> across something.
>

Well I have a 9 year old boy myself, I would never allow him to do
school research on the Internet unsupervised.  The only research access
on the Internet he has is access to the online Encyclopedia Americana.
At 9 years old their brains aren't developed enough to handle it.

As for the 11 year old, at 11 years old I myself had a stack of Playboys
and Oui under my bed, Oui had full on twat shots and all that.  Actually
the Playboys were excellent reading material - I learned all about
Scientology and cults from reading the Playboy interviews with Ted Patrick
AKA Black Lightning, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Patrick

It served me very well a few years later in High School as I was to
run into many Born Again Christians programmed by their particular
churchs so I recognized the mental affliction immediately.  And then
again a few years later when in my mid 20's through
no intent on my part I ended up getting a job with a company that I
eventually discovered was a Church of Scientology front.  The owners of
that company are in jail at the current time, convicted of securities
fraud (years after I left that company)  And yes, when I was there,
they did attempt to get me sucked into the cult of Scientology...

Believe me, to this day my parents know as much about cults as they
know about the WWII Japanese atrocities against the Chinese, which is
to say - about nothing.

I think sometime when I was 15 or so my Mom decided to clean out
my room and found and tossed out all my porno mags.  It was a sad
day. :-(  This was long after junior high school sex ed class so it
saved both of us the
embarassment of her finding out I knew more about sex than she
did. ;-)

You really need to concentrate on laying the firm sense of right and
wrong, and forget about worrying about the nekkid pictures he or she
may come across.  For all my early exposure, I didn't get laid until I
was 17.  Just because you understand how the plumbing works doesen't
mean that you just toss out your sense of right and wrong.

> Say they are curious what the word milf means and they search for it...
> that would be an eye opener!
>
> So right now I have a list of words that are blocked from URLS and a
> large number of sites blacklisted gathered from other peoples lists
> scavenged from google.
>

Well, there is something to be said for the idea that if you make it
taboo you make it more attractive.

Ted

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RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup....

2007-11-25 Thread Tony
Thanks for the advice, I've noticed dansguardian and looked into it a
little bit, I've also blocked some words which works but doesn't work
because it kills some legitimate pages.

I've also tossed around the idea with my Fiancé about locking them down
to certain websites, but that is problematic with doing some school work
(kids are 9 and 11) I think what bothers me most is them stumbling
across something.

Say they are curious what the word milf means and they search for it...
that would be an eye opener!

So right now I have a list of words that are blocked from URLS and a
large number of sites blacklisted gathered from other peoples lists
scavenged from google.

Thanks for the replies,

Tony


PS squid is a very cool thing, and I can use MRTG to gather data and
display it, but it does seem to have some performance hit with surfing,
I moved it from my dually Pentium Pro 200 to my Dual p3 1Ghz and that
made a difference, now I just need some speedy Sata disks and a good
Sata controller.

-Original Message-
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:40 AM
To: Murray Taylor; Tony; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup


Or much better yet, do it the way I do it.  Load Squid, setup the kids
system to use it, then setup squid to only allow the kids to go to a
list of sites.  As my kids learn about interesting sites they want to
go to, -I- visit those sites, and if I decide they are OK, I put them
in the approved list.

Stuff like dansguardian is, in my opinion, for lazy parents who want
to hand off their parental responsibilities to other people.

The other thing is that by the time the kid is 14-15 they should be
mature enough to make their own choices and deal with what they find.
At that time, if your still having to run filtering software, you better
turn off Internet access completely and schedule your kid in with some
sessions with a psychologist, as seriously, he's got a problem.

Ted

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> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:59 PM
> To: Tony; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
>
>
> look at dansguardian  its in the ports and is excellent for
> kid-management
>
> mjt
>
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> > Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:34 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
> >
> > Is there a big list if inappropriate websites somewhere that
> > I can build
> > into squid to keep my kids out of Adult websites?
> >
> > If not squid is there a better Proxy to use on my FreeBSD firewall
for
> > that purpose?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
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RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup....

2007-11-24 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Or much better yet, do it the way I do it.  Load Squid, setup the kids
system to use it, then setup squid to only allow the kids to go to a
list of sites.  As my kids learn about interesting sites they want to
go to, -I- visit those sites, and if I decide they are OK, I put them
in the approved list.

Stuff like dansguardian is, in my opinion, for lazy parents who want
to hand off their parental responsibilities to other people.

The other thing is that by the time the kid is 14-15 they should be
mature enough to make their own choices and deal with what they find.
At that time, if your still having to run filtering software, you better
turn off Internet access completely and schedule your kid in with some
sessions with a psychologist, as seriously, he's got a problem.

Ted

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Murray Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:59 PM
> To: Tony; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
>
>
> look at dansguardian  its in the ports and is excellent for
> kid-management
>
> mjt
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
> > Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:34 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
> >
> > Is there a big list if inappropriate websites somewhere that
> > I can build
> > into squid to keep my kids out of Adult websites?
> >
> > If not squid is there a better Proxy to use on my FreeBSD firewall for
> > that purpose?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
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RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup....

2007-11-22 Thread Murray Taylor
look at dansguardian  its in the ports and is excellent for
kid-management

mjt 

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> Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:34 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
> 
> Is there a big list if inappropriate websites somewhere that 
> I can build
> into squid to keep my kids out of Adult websites?
> 
> If not squid is there a better Proxy to use on my FreeBSD firewall for
> that purpose?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony
> 
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