RE: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
well, we bought seagate NL35 series hdd's, because they're meant to run 24h/d. AND... they give 5 years warranty (which sounds much better for me than the usual 3 years from the others...) whatever, good luck with your disks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
On Thursday, March 23, 2006, at 04:28AM, Nathan Vidican <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hands down, WD or Maxtor for S-ATA drives. Out of 6 Maxtor SATA drives we've had, 6 have failed in the first 6 months. Yeah, we love Maxtor I would check their warranties, and go with whoever gives the longest. Maxtor: 2 years Western Digital: 3 or 5 years (depending on model) Seagate: 5 years. If the company that made them has enough confidence in them to give a longer warranty than anybody else, that says something to me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
Nowadays, there's only one truth: any hard disk is going to fail under load pretty soon. Apart from that, keeping disks cooler helps. Using disks from different manufacturers in redundant arrays helps. Keeping an eye on smart data helps. Seagate, Maxtor, WD, Samsung, Hitachi/IBM - all have their pros and cons. Each manufacturer has its place both in a desktop PC and in a high-end cluster. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:45:39PM +, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > > I'm sure they did sell everything, but it wouldn't have had the same > dramatic effect to say that :-) IMHO, the duff deskstar was an > anomaly and it certainly wouldn't (and hasn't!) put me off buying > Hitachi. Ditto. IBM screwed up for a while about 5 years ago, got their act together, and decided they no longer wanted to be in that business. I've had better luck with IBM/Hitachi and Seagate than Maxtor. Had a really bad time way way back with some 230 MB (yes, million) Western Digital drives and haven't been interested enough in a WD offering since to give them another try. Having said that, have (4) 300G Seagate drives coming today, (2) ATA, (2) SATA. Have probably jinxed myself and those drives. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
Robert Huff wrote: Alex Zbyslaw writes: IBM discovered this to their cost when one of their Deskstar models turned out to be scrap disguised as a disk, and got a Class action lawsuit in return. Then they sold the Deskstar line to Hitachi :-) Did they only sell the Deskstar line? I heard it was the entire disk drive operation, and I have had excellent results with their SCSI products. I'm sure they did sell everything, but it wouldn't have had the same dramatic effect to say that :-) IMHO, the duff deskstar was an anomaly and it certainly wouldn't (and hasn't!) put me off buying Hitachi. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
Steve Camp wrote: What brand / make / model ATA / SATA hard disks do you prefer? I am looking to purchase some SATA disks in the 160 - 300GB size. I got a good deal (I think) on a Samsung OEM 250GB disk for $95 at my local MicroCenter, but read on the web a few days later one gamer / system builder / geeks-on-call type that he had *4* Samsung OEM disks all die on him. So he swore off Samsung. So whom do you like / recommend? I'm currently organizing a list in my mind that looks something like: #1 Seagate Barracuda SATA disks #2 Hitachi Deskstar (formerly IBM) #3 Fujitsu (models not known) #4,5,6 Maxtor, Samsung, Western Digital Intended use is for a server (NFS, maybe SAMBA) in a RAID-1 (mirrored) configuration. I am thinking of using an ASUS A8V, A8V-E SE, or one of the A8N Nvidia Nforce4 motherboards. OSes to include: FreeBSD, Linux, Winbloze (maybe). Your experiences, expertise, recommendations are most welcome. -- Steve Camp [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Hands down, WD or Maxtor for S-ATA drives. Have had problems with S-ATA drives made by Seagate, and frankly - just don't trust them. Be careful if using RAID arrays though, Western Digital in particular because there are different drive models/firmware if using RAID or not (changes the error-correction algorithm). Performance wise - WD's Raptor series, or (in larger capacities, ie 250/320gb s-ata) 'SD'-model'd drives (RAID edition) have been great for us. I've got at least 30 servers running WD drives in RAID arrays. -- Nathan Vidican [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
> If I were going to run RAID-1, I would pick two disks of the > same size but different brands (Samsung and Hitachi 250Gb > say). If you buy two disks of the same brand at the same > time from the same supplier, it always seems to me that you > increase the chance that a) they come from the same batch b) > therefore if one has some production-line-related fault, the > other is more likely to have the same fault. > > --Alex > Actually, this is an excellent advise for the fact mentioned above, and as well some RAID-1 controllers actually malfunction when one of the two identical disks goes bad. So you'll have to physically disconnect the bad disk from the card. This happened to me on a Promise Controller. You'll even see a notice about it in the new Promise controllers User Guide ! Tamouh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
Alex Zbyslaw writes: > IBM discovered this to their cost when one of their Deskstar > models turned out to be scrap disguised as a disk, and got a > Class action lawsuit in return. Then they sold the Deskstar line > to Hitachi :-) Did they only sell the Deskstar line? I heard it was the entire disk drive operation, and I have had excellent results with their SCSI products. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
Steve Camp wrote: What brand / make / model ATA / SATA hard disks do you prefer? I am looking to purchase some SATA disks in the 160 - 300GB size. I got a good deal (I think) on a Samsung OEM 250GB disk for $95 at my local MicroCenter, but read on the web a few days later one gamer / system builder / geeks-on-call type that he had *4* Samsung OEM disks all die on him. So he swore off Samsung. So whom do you like / recommend? For any brand of disk you will always find *someone* who has had trouble. A single report by someone you don't know is statistically insignificant. 4 disks out of how many? How were they treated before they died? How quickly did they die? If you can find multiple reports like that, then maybe you're on to something. I have three Samsung disks (bargain bucket 160Gb SATA for Windows, and a 200Gb and 250Gb SATAII running at SATAI). I can say that they have been fine for me for 9 months (touch wood), but that's not worth much either :-) The sad fact is, that some proportion of hard disks pass quality control but still contrive to die. *Mostly*, a disk that going to die, does so quite quickly. Advice I have seen is that you burn the disk in (run benchmarks for 48 hours non-stop, say. Maybe even a week). And don't trust the disk for a month. If it's still going after that then it'll probably last for years as long as you don't let them overheat. If it dies, that's what the warranty is for! If there is a serious problem with a particular disk model, then google will find it for you. IBM discovered this to their cost when one of their Deskstar models turned out to be scrap disguised as a disk, and got a Class action lawsuit in return. Then they sold the Deskstar line to Hitachi :-) FWIW, my only Deskstar (pre-dating the dodgy model) is still going after 5+ years, and my only Hitachi (successor to Deskstar) is the same age as Samsungs, and fine too. If I were going to run RAID-1, I would pick two disks of the same size but different brands (Samsung and Hitachi 250Gb say). If you buy two disks of the same brand at the same time from the same supplier, it always seems to me that you increase the chance that a) they come from the same batch b) therefore if one has some production-line-related fault, the other is more likely to have the same fault. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: favorite ATA/SATA hard disk brand?
> > What brand / make / model ATA / SATA hard disks do you prefer? > > I am looking to purchase some SATA disks in the 160 - 300GB size. > I got a good deal (I think) on a Samsung OEM 250GB disk for > $95 at my local MicroCenter, but read on the web a few days > later one gamer / system builder / geeks-on-call type that he > had *4* Samsung OEM disks all die on him. So he swore off Samsung. > > So whom do you like / recommend? > > I'm currently organizing a list in my mind that looks something like: > > #1 Seagate Barracuda SATA disks > #2 Hitachi Deskstar (formerly IBM) > #3 Fujitsu (models not known) > #4,5,6 Maxtor, Samsung, Western Digital > > Intended use is for a server (NFS, maybe SAMBA) in a RAID-1 > (mirrored) configuration. I am thinking of using an ASUS > A8V, A8V-E SE, or one of the A8N Nvidia Nforce4 motherboards. > OSes to include: FreeBSD, Linux, Winbloze (maybe). > > Your experiences, expertise, recommendations are most welcome. > > -- > Steve Camp > [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a hit and miss situation. Each manufacturer has at least one model line that goes wrong. Too many factors affecting failure rates, and reliability in the desktop market is not really a 1st priority. I used to say Seagate is the best, however, after I said that, 3 SATA drives failed , 1 SCSI and a replacement drive failed on me. I've been using on my local station a Samsung since 3 years ago, it is a bit slow, but has been quite reliable that I'm pondering to go with Samsung drives. I never had WD fail on me, however, seen a lot of customers WD fail! The top in their game in my opinion: SCSI: IBM, Seagate, Fujitsu, Hitachi (maybe?) ATA/SATA: WD , Seagate, Samsung Notebooks: Seagate , Fujitsu (I didn't like Toshiba nor Hitachi) Never buy Maxtor for servers, I know that one for sure from my own experience and in conversations with a large DC tech guy. After all, you and your luck. It seems each person have a lucky start drive manufacturer. Good luck! Tamouh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
