RE: hunting for secure fileserver-connection!

2006-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

 If you don't trust CIFS/Samba enough to be secure against local sniffers,
and
 you won't run IPsec, you're left with odd things like Sun's SecureNFS
software,
 only I doubt that's available for a FreeBSD fileserver.
that's what i was afraid of. ipsec would be great, if it was possible to
have it
setup itself against the server each time you login (maybe windows logon)
but theres
always a client software needed, and in most cases, you're not able to
access other
networks smoothly if connected.

 If you've got 1.5TB of storage, perhaps you should talk to Auspex or
NetApp and
 see what the NAS folk have to offer...
maybe you're right on that, but currently, we have to test the FreeBSD
thing, and
set it up (because the hw is already here...)



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Re: hunting for secure fileserver-connection!

2006-04-03 Thread Bill Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  If you don't trust CIFS/Samba enough to be secure against local sniffers,
 and
  you won't run IPsec, you're left with odd things like Sun's SecureNFS
 software,
  only I doubt that's available for a FreeBSD fileserver.
 that's what i was afraid of. ipsec would be great, if it was possible to
 have it
 setup itself against the server each time you login (maybe windows logon)
 but theres
 always a client software needed, and in most cases, you're not able to
 access other
 networks smoothly if connected.

I've never actually used it, but IPsec in transport mode should be
capable of what you want, and should not have the negative side effects
you describe.

At least that's the way it's designed.  It might be implemented poorly on
Windows, I don't know.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: hunting for secure fileserver-connection!

2006-04-02 Thread Chuck Swiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote:
 the scenario:
 - freebsd-fileserver with encrypted HDD's (GELI) (1.5TB)
 - windows (sorry for that, it's a requirement) as client
 
 the quest:
 - securely mount shared filesystems from the server from
   the windows client w/o being open to sniffers/network
   hacks (non-weak encryption required)
 - files should be accessible like with windows-fileserver
   shares through UNC and/or drive-name(s)
 - server and clients should share the same network. (no
   tunnelling etc...)
 - authentication should be done against local defined users
 
 what we don't want:
 - VPN/IPSEC/... between the hosts
 - webdav
 
 we've been looking on solutions like secure nfs over tcp,
 samba, etc... but except making it slower, there have been
 no real good solutions until yet.
 
 anybody out there, who has a good advice on that?

If you don't trust CIFS/Samba enough to be secure against local sniffers, and
you won't run IPsec, you're left with odd things like Sun's SecureNFS software,
only I doubt that's available for a FreeBSD fileserver.

If you've got 1.5TB of storage, perhaps you should talk to Auspex or NetApp and
see what the NAS folk have to offer...

-- 
-Chuck
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