RE: non-RAID SATA

2008-05-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an
 existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not
 getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller
 which would be expected to work well.  (I'd prefer PCI, since the
 USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining
 desirable data rates.)
 

SATA is faster than PCI.  Most people would replace the motherboard
or use a USB 2.0 card which has a far faster transfer speed than
PCI does as a transition, with the expectation that sooner or
later they are going to replace the system.

 All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of
 RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in
 cards.
 
 Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be
 inclined to share?

In automotive terms your adding a free-flow exhaust to a restricted
engine - in the trade we call them adding a fart can because
they do nothing to help the car go faster since there's restrictions
further up the chain.

Go buy an inexpensive USB 2.0 external disk case, then buy your
SATA disk and stick it inside of that, with the idea that eventually
your going to get a faster machine you might be able to use the disk in.

Ted

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Re: non-RAID SATA

2008-05-25 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:01:42PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 
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  I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an
  existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not
  getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller
  which would be expected to work well.  (I'd prefer PCI, since the
  USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining
  desirable data rates.)
  
 
 SATA is faster than PCI.  Most people would replace the motherboard
 or use a USB 2.0 card which has a far faster transfer speed than
 PCI does as a transition, with the expectation that sooner or
 later they are going to replace the system.

While it is true that the maximum theoretical transfer speed available
from SATA (150MB/s or 300MB/s depending on SATA version) exceeds that
of a normal PCI bus (133MB/s for a standard 32bit/33MHz bus), there
is currently no single SATA disk available on the market that will
swamp the PCI bus.
USB 2.0 is however much slower than either of SATA and PCI.
USB 2.0 has a maximum theoretical transfer speed of 480Mbit/s ( = 60MB/s)
with a practical maximum of maybe 30-40 MB/s - less than half of either PCI
or SATA.


 
  All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of
  RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in
  cards.
  
  Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be
  inclined to share?
 
 In automotive terms your adding a free-flow exhaust to a restricted
 engine - in the trade we call them adding a fart can because
 they do nothing to help the car go faster since there's restrictions
 further up the chain.

It is unlikely that a PCI-based SATA card would be a noticable bottleneck
in this case unless one were to connect several high-speed disks to the
card.

 
 Go buy an inexpensive USB 2.0 external disk case, then buy your
 SATA disk and stick it inside of that, with the idea that eventually
 your going to get a faster machine you might be able to use the disk in.

USB however would be a quite noticable bottleneck.  Bad idea if you want
anything resembling speed.



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