RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Olivier GARNIER

Hi,

I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232).
I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather 
station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software).

I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects.

I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one :
http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html
And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then 
get data from my BSD.


The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 
translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows.

I don't know if it will work on BSD.
If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232 
translater... and it's not cheap.


Has anybody already done a such network ?

Thanks,

Olivier
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Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Chris Hill

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Olivier GARNIER wrote:

I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / 
RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the 
weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already 
have a RJ45 cable between the two objects.


I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : 
http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html 
And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then 
get data from my BSD.


The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 
translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. I 
don't know if it will work on BSD. If it does not work, i'll be oblige 
to buy another RJ45 to RS232 translater... and it's not cheap.


Has anybody already done a such network ?


I have used this:

http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=iplts6s=0

...with no issues. This one has six RS232 ports; they also make versions 
with one, two and four ports. The interface is software-neutral - just 
open a TCP connection to the device on port 2001, and everything you send 
and receive from the socket goes through the RS232 port. There is an 
embedded web server for configuration.


I don't know what the pricing is on these things, but I'm sure they are 
not cheap (being Extron and all). But they are easy to use, work right and 
don't break. Just my opinion; hope this helps.


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Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Chuck Swiger

Olivier GARNIER wrote:

I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232).
I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather 
station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software).

I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects.


You can simply connect a RS-232 serial port via ethernet cable using 9-pin DIN 
to RJ-45 connector adaptors at both ends.  No need to convert the serial data 
stream into TCP/IP over ethernet.


Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers and 
other terminal applications all the time.  However, if the device is truly 
RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 meters and 
possibly won't go past 9600 baud.


Regards.
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-Chuck
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Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Martin McCormick
Olivier GARNIER writes:
 I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / 
 RS232).
 
 I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station
 (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software).
 
 I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects.
 
 I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one :
 http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html
 
 And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then 
 get
 data from my BSD.
 
 
 
 The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45
 translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows.
 
 I don't know if it will work on BSD.
 
 If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232
 translater... and it's not cheap.

You did not say what version of FreeBSD you are using
and it does make a difference. The usb port stack was rewritten
for FreeBSD8.0 so that probably works best. I tried to attach a
usb converter to a FreeBSD6.3 system and it never worked.
Different models of RS-232 converters may work fine. I just
could not get these to work at all under 6.3.

RJ45 plugs and CAT3 or CAT5 Ethernet-style cables are
frequently used to carry RS-232 signals so the only somewhat
unusual device you will need to procure is a plug adaptor such
as one made by Modtap which simply has a RJ45 female on one edge
and a male or female RS-232 9 or 25-pin plug or socket on the
other edge.

These adaptors have no IC's or intelligence built in to
them. They just route the conductors in the CATx cable to the
right pins. You may have to actually build the adaptor to your
needs but these things at least used to be fairly common.

The actual RS-232 to usb port converters are relatively
inexpensive these days and they do have processors built in to
them as well as charge pumps to generate the +-12 volts for
RS-232 devices. Some of them are built to work fine under
systems other than Windows boxes and others may only work under
Windows so you will need to be sure that the one you want to use
works.

So, in short, you need a plug adaptor to make the RJ45
cable useble with RS-232 devices and you also need any of the
common RS-232 to usb converters to actually connect the cable to your
FreeBSD computer.

As long as the usb-RS-232 converter actually works and
produces a new ttyUSBx device, the brand is not that critical.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Martin McCormick
Chuck Swiger writes:
 Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers
 and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is
 truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 
 meters
 and possibly won't go past 9600 baud.

I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded
response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for
RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of
range which is kind of pushing things.
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Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Gary Gatten
They make line drivers to sit inline and boost the signals to extend the range, 
similar to T1 repeaters I suppose.  I had to use some 10'ish years ago. They 
weren't too expensive then, can't imagine the would be now.

But back to OP ?, I'm sure someone has a program that takes an RS-232 stream 
and sticks it in tcp or udp.  If I'm bored today I'll poke around the ports and 
google and such.

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Chuck Swiger writes:
 Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers
 and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is
 truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 
 meters
 and possibly won't go past 9600 baud.

I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded
response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for
RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of
range which is kind of pushing things.
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Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD.

2010-03-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Mar  4 10:41:36 2010
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:41:00 -0600
 From: Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu
 Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. 

 Chuck Swiger writes:
  Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers
  and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is
  truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 
  meters
  and possibly won't go past 9600 baud.

   I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded
 response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for
 RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of
 range which is kind of pushing things.

The 'standard' way to get around that distance limitation is to use a
RS-232 to current-loop adapter, often referred to as a 'short haul modem'.
see: 
http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/Short-Haul-Modem-Nonpowered-Async-SHM-NPR-DB25-Male/ME721A-M-R3

for one example from a quality, but fairly pricey, source.

Note: you need one of these on each end of the wire.


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