Re: [nycbug-talk] Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC

2005-07-07 Thread Scott Robbins
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On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM
 Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to
 install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in
 text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing
 environment for application development.
 
 What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot
 approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking
 256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like
 166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that.

If I understand your question, you'd like a window manager that is
pretty light but has the ability to do backgrounds and the like.  
Both rxvt and aterm are lightweight xterms that can show backgrounds as
they run--there is also eterm, but it's more resource intensive.  

As for the window manager itself, I like fluxbox, and it's considered
relatively light.  There is weewm, which can have a background
image--actually, I think most of them can now, using xsetbg.  Fluxbox
has fbsetbg which will set a background, but does require some other
program to do that--some people use feh, xv and xli are two other
programs that can work with fbsetbg to set your background.

I hope I've understood that aspect of your question.  If not, apologies
for wasting your time.

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Re: [nycbug-talk] Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC

2005-07-07 Thread Garrett Cooper
	Ah, yes... sorry for the poor answering earlier. eterm, aterm and 
xterm all handle terminal coloring very nicely, with eterm being the most 
resource hungry of the three terminals listed previously.

My apologies for the confusing prior answer.
-Garrett

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Scott Robbins wrote:


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On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote:

Hi All,

I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM
Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to
install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in
text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing
environment for application development.

What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot
approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking
256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like
166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that.


If I understand your question, you'd like a window manager that is
pretty light but has the ability to do backgrounds and the like.
Both rxvt and aterm are lightweight xterms that can show backgrounds as
they run--there is also eterm, but it's more resource intensive.

As for the window manager itself, I like fluxbox, and it's considered
relatively light.  There is weewm, which can have a background
image--actually, I think most of them can now, using xsetbg.  Fluxbox
has fbsetbg which will set a background, but does require some other
program to do that--some people use feh, xv and xli are two other
programs that can work with fbsetbg to set your background.

I hope I've understood that aspect of your question.  If not, apologies
for wasting your time.

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Re: [nycbug-talk] Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC

2005-07-07 Thread Hakim Singhji
Actually Garrett,

Your first answer was quite helpful as well. I am trying to figure out
the best way to use X windows, a wm and xterm in a manner that will
not slow down performance to a crawl, something that will resemble my
development environment on my main machine without a full install or
dual boot on this laptop.

Will I be able to find everthing I need in the ports collection.

On 7/7/05, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, yes... sorry for the poor answering earlier. eterm, aterm and
 xterm all handle terminal coloring very nicely, with eterm being the most
 resource hungry of the three terminals listed previously.
 My apologies for the confusing prior answer.
 -Garrett
 
 On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Scott Robbins wrote:
 
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  On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM
  Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to
  install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in
  text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing
  environment for application development.
 
  What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot
  approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking
  256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like
  166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that.
 
  If I understand your question, you'd like a window manager that is
  pretty light but has the ability to do backgrounds and the like.
  Both rxvt and aterm are lightweight xterms that can show backgrounds as
  they run--there is also eterm, but it's more resource intensive.
 
  As for the window manager itself, I like fluxbox, and it's considered
  relatively light.  There is weewm, which can have a background
  image--actually, I think most of them can now, using xsetbg.  Fluxbox
  has fbsetbg which will set a background, but does require some other
  program to do that--some people use feh, xv and xli are two other
  programs that can work with fbsetbg to set your background.
 
  I hope I've understood that aspect of your question.  If not, apologies
  for wasting your time.
 
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