Re: 6.1 current instabilty on Sun Ultra 40's

2006-08-31 Thread stan
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 02:44:28PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:01:07 -0400
 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On that disk is a world, built from last weekends cvsup. I was able
  to reproduce it's instability to build a generic kernel. It fails with
  a signal (I believe) 11,
 
 fair enough :) 
 
 btw, from past experience, sig_fault 11 usually points to faulty hardware
 (usually RAM...) - haven't found them much on BSD, but i'd get them all the
 time when using lesser hardware on linux (building kernel was a standard way 
 to
 test the hardware back then) but since you've ruled out hardware... i dont
 know what else :)
 
I agree, that's one of the reasons it took me so long to decide to shut the
production machine down to verify whether it _was_ hardware or not. I was
extermely disapointed when I was able to reproduce the problem on known
good hardware, as the unit i'm trying to put FreeBSD on is still under
waranty.

I don't really know how to go about creating a reproducable enough problem
that is simple enough to submit a bug report, so I supose my only option is
to find another use for this machine. too bad, beacuse I can easily buy
yese machines, which isn't always the case in a corporate environment.

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Re: 6.1 current instabilty on Sun Ultra 40's

2006-08-30 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:02:28 -0400
stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't get  6.1 to even compile a new kernel on 2 different Sun
 Ultra 40's Anyone have nay reason that it should not work on these machines?

Stan,
as a general rule, telling the list what you did and the (exact) error /
problems you encountered will give better results...

Sorry I can't be of help in this particular issue.


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Re: 6.1 current instabilty on Sun Ultra 40's

2006-08-30 Thread stan
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:39:35PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:02:28 -0400
 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I can't get  6.1 to even compile a new kernel on 2 different Sun
  Ultra 40's Anyone have nay reason that it should not work on these machines?
 
 Stan,
 as a general rule, telling the list what you did and the (exact) error /
 problems you encountered will give better results...
 
 Sorry I can't be of help in this particular issue.
 
That would be a little hard to summarize, as it's taken a couple
of months to come to the conclusion that FreeBSD is unusable
on these machines. Partly because I only have 2 of them, one of which
is in daily critical production running Linux. 

I had assumed that I might have hardware problems on the machine
I'm trying to use for FreeBSD, despite having run _extensive_
hardware diagnostics. Yesterday, in desperation I shut down the machine
running Linux, and put the boot disk from the other machine in it.
On that disk is a world, built from last weekends cvsup. I was able
to reproduce it's instability to build a generic kernel. It fails with
a signal (I believe) 11, Basically I was flagging others who may be considering
buying this hardware, with the intent of running FreeBSD on it to not 
do so. Without having machines to give to developers, I don't really
expect this  situation to get corrected in the foreseeable future.

Having said that, at this point I have a machine that I really can't use
for the application it was purchased for. I'd be willing to do any testing
the developers might be interested in doing on this machine.

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Re: 6.1 current instabilty on Sun Ultra 40's

2006-08-30 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:01:07 -0400
stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On that disk is a world, built from last weekends cvsup. I was able
 to reproduce it's instability to build a generic kernel. It fails with
 a signal (I believe) 11,

fair enough :) 

btw, from past experience, sig_fault 11 usually points to faulty hardware
(usually RAM...) - haven't found them much on BSD, but i'd get them all the
time when using lesser hardware on linux (building kernel was a standard way to
test the hardware back then) but since you've ruled out hardware... i dont
know what else :)

good luck,
B

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