Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-22 Thread Gary Aitken

Thanks for the pointers and hints, I'm over that hurdle.

On 5/19/2012 5:28 PM, Warren Block wrote:

On Sat, 19 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


3. The Xorg man page notes that ctrlaltbksp should cause it to
exit. However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM. Any hints on
why ctrlaltbksp doesn't cause it to exit?


This is also a new default to _not_ work anymore. You have more
than two (if I remember correctly) options in making it work.
You'll find them in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

One possibility when X has been compiled _without_ HAL support
(and no hald running), placing

Option DontZap false

into the ServerLayout section should work. Additionally, I see
that I have

Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

in the InputDevice section of Keyboard0. It just works. :-)


This should work whether or not HAL is installed or running.
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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 18 May 2012, Gary Aitken wrote:


Trying to set up a new box 9.0-RELEASE w/ X; has ATI Radeon HD5500 card.

X.org -config says:
 Missing output drivers.  Configuration failed.

From X.org I see one is supposed to get linux drivers from ati/amd,
but this info is over 2 years old and
 http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
only allows choices of drivers for windoze.

Can anyone point me to a useable driver, or if these cards are essentially 
unusable, make a suggestion for a reliable card suitable for non-gaming (2-D) 
X work?


The radeon driver wants KMS for cards later than the 4000 series.  A few 
of the 5000 series may somewhat work with the existing UMS driver, but 
most do not.


KMS for Intel video is being worked on and already being used, but AFAIK 
work has not even begun for the Radeons.



Should one use an Nvidia card with the Linux 295.53 driver?


A Radeon 4650 works fine with the current radeon driver.  The Nvidia 
cards are faster with the FreeBSD version of their proprietary driver,

...but it's a proprietary driver.
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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Gary Aitken

Ok...  I tried the xf86-video-radeonhd driver, to no avail.
Then tried xf86-video-ati-6.14.3 with marginally better results.

Using the ati driver, which reports that it works for the HD5500, Xorg 
hobbles and writes a config file.
When it attempts to start, the log shows a boatload of information 
stuff, a few warnings, and finally


(EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
(II) Acceleration disabled

After which I'm left with the tail of the log file on the display,
but no prompt, and X is still running.

That is the only EE posted.

Questions:

1.  Since the driver notes that Acceleration was disabled, but there are 
no other errors, shouldn't the driver work in dumb frame buffer mode? 
(Hoping to get something hobbling along...)  Or is this the result of 
the need for KMS and I'm SOL?


2.  Since the server didn't exit, is it actually pretending to run? 
Shouldn't I be seeing the standard X grey hatched background?  Or is the 
server running, but the driver isn't passing bits on appropriately?


3.  The Xorg man page notes that ctrlaltbksp should cause it to 
exit.  However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM.  Any hints on 
why ctrlaltbksp doesn't cause it to exit?



On 5/19/2012 8:00 AM, Warren Block wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012, Gary Aitken wrote:


Trying to set up a new box 9.0-RELEASE w/ X; has ATI Radeon HD5500 card.

X.org -config says:
Missing output drivers. Configuration failed.

From X.org I see one is supposed to get linux drivers from ati/amd,
but this info is over 2 years old and
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
only allows choices of drivers for windoze.

Can anyone point me to a useable driver, or if these cards are
essentially unusable, make a suggestion for a reliable card suitable
for non-gaming (2-D) X work?


The radeon driver wants KMS for cards later than the 4000 series. A few
of the 5000 series may somewhat work with the existing UMS driver, but
most do not.

KMS for Intel video is being worked on and already being used, but AFAIK
work has not even begun for the Radeons.


Should one use an Nvidia card with the Linux 295.53 driver?


A Radeon 4650 works fine with the current radeon driver. The Nvidia
cards are faster with the FreeBSD version of their proprietary driver,
...but it's a proprietary driver.
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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:59:03 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 1.  Since the driver notes that Acceleration was disabled, but there are 
 no other errors, shouldn't the driver work in dumb frame buffer mode? 
 (Hoping to get something hobbling along...)  Or is this the result of 
 the need for KMS and I'm SOL?

Do you have drm/dri (direct renering) installed, port and
kernel module? I've been using that with a ATI Radeon 9200
(I think, RV250, no HD) with excellent 2D and 3D results
both with XFree86 and X.org - tested with excessive gaming. :-)



 2.  Since the server didn't exit, is it actually pretending to run? 

Check using ps or top.



 Shouldn't I be seeing the standard X grey hatched background? 

No. The default new background is plain black. Nothing to see.
No grey pattern, no twm, nothing. And in case HAL and DBUS _or_
xorg.conf settings don't really match, you don't even see the
X-shaped mouse cursor.



 3.  The Xorg man page notes that ctrlaltbksp should cause it to 
 exit.  However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM.  Any hints on 
 why ctrlaltbksp doesn't cause it to exit?

This is also a new default to _not_ work anymore. You have more
than two (if I remember correctly) options in making it work.
You'll find them in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

One possibility when X has been compiled _without_ HAL support
(and no hald running), placing 

Option DontZap false

into the ServerLayout section should work. Additionally, I see
that I have

Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

in the InputDevice section of Keyboard0. It just works. :-)





-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 19 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


3.  The Xorg man page notes that ctrlaltbksp should cause it to
exit.  However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM.  Any hints on
why ctrlaltbksp doesn't cause it to exit?


This is also a new default to _not_ work anymore. You have more
than two (if I remember correctly) options in making it work.
You'll find them in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

One possibility when X has been compiled _without_ HAL support
(and no hald running), placing

Option DontZap false

into the ServerLayout section should work. Additionally, I see
that I have

Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

in the InputDevice section of Keyboard0. It just works. :-)


This should work whether or not HAL is installed or running.
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