Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-22 Thread anubis
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 9:42 am, Eric F Crist wrote:
 Hello list,

 I've been using freebsd 4.x on a laptop for 6 months or so now, and
 I'm not entirely happy with it.  Mostly, it lacks multimedia
 support and power management.  I don't want to start some flame war
 here, but here goes.

 Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you
 utilize on your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone
 bashing any other OS, just why you use what you do.

 TIA

Ive got 5.2 on my ibm r40 notebook.
I originally had mandrake on it but whenever I went to do anything I 
was frustrated by not knowing linux.  Im using freebsd now because 
the comfort I have from just being able to make things work without 
having to think oh this works differently when I want to do 
anything.

  It has the comforting sameness of my servers and home machine.  I 
can also rip down the latest sources from my cvsup mirror at work 
easily.  Being the same as my servers I can trial stuff first on it 
before unleashing it on my unsuspecting users.

Being always near power I have never thought about the power business 
so I cant say about it, likewise the modem.  I never use it.

With regards to the multimedia, what exactly doesnt work?

Have you looked at the 5.x branch?

If I was going to try linux again I would try suse.  Its full of 
german goodness.

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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-22 Thread Uwe Laverenz
Eric F Crist wrote:

Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you utilize on 
your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing any other OS, just 
why you use what you do.
I run FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELENG_5_2) on my IBM A31 now and everything works 
well for me. Before I was able to run FreeBSD on this machine, I used to 
run RedHat, Fedora and Debian GNU/Linux on that machine for a while (I 
really liked RedHat/Fedora). The problem is, that all 
Linux-Distributions have their issues, technically or politically...

cu,
Uwe
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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-21 Thread Volker Kindermann
Hello Eric,


 I've been using freebsd 4.x on a laptop for 6 months or so now, and
 I'm not entirely happy with it.  Mostly, it lacks multimedia support
 and power management.  I don't want to start some flame war here, but
 here goes.
 
 Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you
 utilize on your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing
 any other OS, just why you use what you do.

I'm using FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my Thinkpad X21. The only thing I've trouble
with is acpi. So I'm using APM which works sufficiently for me
(suspending when closing the display, etc. I have no problems with
sound, all hardware components are recognised (even the WinModem is
supported by the lt.. port but I don't bother as I don't need it).

Mostly I do allday-work with the laptop, email, browsing the internet,
openoffice, connecting to citrix, administering remote machines,
networking tasks, etc.

There's nothing I miss with FreeBSD but that's only my point. Other
users may have other needs.

 -volker
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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-21 Thread John Mills
Eric, Freebies -

I ended up with Linux for some specific reasons. YMMV.

On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 17:42, Eric F Crist wrote:

 Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you utilize on 
 your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing any other OS, just 
 why you use what you do.

I am working on a Linux development project, have very limited funds, and 
spend many weekends out of town. I was given an elderly Toshiba (430CDT) 
that was a casualty of the class-action suit a few years ago, about their 
handling of CPU and/or BIOS problems. I wanted a setup that would parallel 
the code development environment of my RH-7.3/X11 Linux setup.

I expanded the RAM to 49 MBy but was still unable to run any installer I
could find for a RedHat setup. ('Slinky' bit me viciously.)

I was able to run the Slackware-9.1 Linux console installer without
problems, and by being very careful I even fitted a few frills into the
system's 1.2 GBy HDD. It generally works (sllooowwwlly), though I
sometimes crash my X session when some app ties up the resources (i.e.,
there seems to be a minimum hardware base for stability and I'm not
_quite_ there). Otherwise it meets my requirements perfectly. I'm typing
this now by SSH login to my home system over a [miserable] dial-up
account, and at home I put it on my LAN and it works fine. X11 takes a
long time to start, but is responsive once it's going. I use WindowMaker
because KDE and GNOME are pretty much out of the question with so little
RAM: they swap all the time and KDE takes _many_ seconds to even find a
keystroke. WM is fine. I didn't try other lightweight window managers
('fvwm', 'fluxbox', ...), but any of them would probably have worked out.

I installed from a boot floppy and CDs of the packages. I expect to
install future Linux systems from Slackware after about 6 years of RedHat
(though my early setups were Slackware). Naturally I'm heavily influenced
by my anecdotal experience.

I don't have sound working, and the only power management is screen 
blanking, c/o XFree86.

I am sure I could have installed a good freeBSD configuration; I recently 
installed FBSD by ftp in a junker desktop that didn't even have a CD 
drive. As soon as the Linux project works I plan to port it to FBSD due 
to its fine reputation as a server environment, but the client asked for 
Linux and I have more development experience (and a good working setup) in 
Linux.

Bottom line: I got what I needed, but my limited hardware and specific use
had a lot to do with the path I took.

Regards.
 - John Mills
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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-20 Thread Remko Lodder
Eric F Crist wrote:

Hello list,

I've been using freebsd 4.x on a laptop for 6 months or so now, and I'm not 
entirely happy with it.  Mostly, it lacks multimedia support and power 
management.  I don't want to start some flame war here, but here goes.

Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you utilize on 
your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing any other OS, just 
why you use what you do.

TIA
Hi Eric,

First of all, when someone flamewars over this, it's very shamefull... 
The one who does that should know better, and even OS bashing is the 
same form, know better.

I run FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my laptop and that works rather ok. My soundcard 
words, and the Powermanagement i don't use so cannot tell anything about 
 that. Why do i use it? I like to run bleeding edge stuff, and on my 
laptop i cannot do any harm at all. Also i am interested in it :-).

I run on my laptop some applications to do some administration 
(OpenOffice) and i use it to connect to my servers in the home lan.
I've also used the laptop in a SANS track where we needed laptops, from 
every OS in the room i thought (and still think) that my FreeBSD laptop 
was most secure and reliable.

Also i like to use it as a mobile cd player and dvd player, and that 
works alright with xmms and Xine.

Hope this gives some information to you :-)

Cheers!

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Kind regards,

Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the 
hackerscene

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Re: Best *nix OS for a laptop?

2004-03-20 Thread Frank Knobbe
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 17:42, Eric F Crist wrote:
 Could some of you please send me an email telling me what OS you utilize on 
 your laptop, and why?  I'm not looking for anyone bashing any other OS, just 
 why you use what you do.

I use FreeBSD 4.8 on my Dell Inspiron laptop. Everything works including
video, audio, PC card, DVD, firewire, USB, and APM. Perhaps your problem
is not so much the OS but the laptop. It would help to tell us what kind
of laptop you have.

Why I use BSD? Mainly for stability, usability, performance and security
reasons. 

Regards,
Frank



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