Re: Filesystem problems at boot and shutdown?

2008-11-27 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Rick Janssen wrote:
 Rick Janssen wrote:
 
 I've been playing around with FreeBSD for some time now, still being
 unable to solve some problems. Let me explain.

 I'm trying to run a webserver on the machine. Just basic, nothing too
 fancy. Problem concerns the following: The website served is speedy as
 expected when accessed from local LAN, but when accessed from WAN via
 router, it's realy slow. So, to do some tests, this afternoon I requested
 some pages from an computer outside my LAN. Server was very slow again,
 even ssh slowed to a crawl. Suddenly, without reason I know off,
 everything sped up. I issued a reboot to check if the problem might have
 been 'solved'. This took a long time.

 Back home I checked the logs. It now appeared the long reboot-time was
 caused by a Syncing disk anomaly, which happens when the system prepares
 for shutting down.

 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 timed out
 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process
 `bufdaemon' to stop...done
 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, buffers remaining... 184 185
 186 1 185 185 185 185 184 184 185 185 185 184 184 185 1 184 184 184 184
 185 185 185 1 184 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 1 185 184 184 184
 184 184 184 1 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 184 184
 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 185 184
 184 184 185 184 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 184
 184 184 184 184 1 184 184 184 1 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 1 184 185 184
 184 185 185 184 184 ... etc etc...
 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Final sync complete

 So I figured, might as well run fschk -y in single user mode to fix
 potential problems. Now I got some new errors:

 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error
 (retrying request) LBA=1364750271
 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1364750271
 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel:
 g_vfs_done():ad4s1g[WRITE(offset=682932174848, length=131072)]error = 5

 So far, nothing serious has followed from these errors I know off. They
 only happen sporadically, during reboots.

 Are these to problems even related, or am I just unlucky? Anyone has some
 suggestions to fix them?

 Regards,
 Rick


   
 Unless there is some incompatibility between FreeBSD - Your disk
 controller - Your disk, my best guess is you have a failing disk.  I
 would also suggest you check cables, connections (I guess this is an
 ATA disk so you may wish the check whether the flat cable is the
 80-conductor type and is plugged in correctly).
 

 The disk is a new SATA model (1TB Samsung), so that lessens the chances of
 the disk itself being defective somewhat. The mainboard is a MSI K9A2VM-F
 (AMD 780V / AMD SB700 chipsets)

   

In fact, new disks *can* be faulty. Usually, the faults surface few days
/ weeks after initial use. I don't really trust a new disk on my system
until it runs for a couple of months. It will then run for years until
it reaches end-of-life due to wear.
I still suggest you try testing it with some programs like
sysutils/smartmontools

 You did not mention the speed of you WAN connection, but FWIW I am
 running a webserver behind a 1Mbps/256Kbps ADSL line and response is
 good enough. SSH is definitely good enough to use in long vi sessions,
 with lengthy documents.
 

 The connection is something similar. Should be no cause for the slowness.
   

Since it works fine on the LAN, you need to check the router though.
Maybe some setting is slowing it down. Is it one of these cheap DSL
routers? You may want to turn off various features on the router like
firewalls, intrusion detections and so on (it goes without saying that
you will secure your FreeBSD system instead)
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Re: Filesystem problems at boot and shutdown?

2008-11-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error
(retrying request) LBA=1364750271
Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48
status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1364750271
Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel:
g_vfs_done():ad4s1g[WRITE(offset=682932174848, length=131072)]error = 5



cabling problems or disk overheating (or controller) or failed disk.

ICRC error suggest that it's rather cabling problem.

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Re: Filesystem problems at boot and shutdown?

2008-11-26 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Rick Janssen wrote:
 I've been playing around with FreeBSD for some time now, still being
 unable to solve some problems. Let me explain.

 I'm trying to run a webserver on the machine. Just basic, nothing too
 fancy. Problem concerns the following: The website served is speedy as
 expected when accessed from local LAN, but when accessed from WAN via
 router, it's realy slow. So, to do some tests, this afternoon I requested
 some pages from an computer outside my LAN. Server was very slow again,
 even ssh slowed to a crawl. Suddenly, without reason I know off,
 everything sped up. I issued a reboot to check if the problem might have
 been 'solved'. This took a long time.

 Back home I checked the logs. It now appeared the long reboot-time was
 caused by a Syncing disk anomaly, which happens when the system prepares
 for shutting down.

 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 timed out
 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process
 `bufdaemon' to stop...done
 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, buffers remaining... 184 185
 186 1 185 185 185 185 184 184 185 185 185 184 184 185 1 184 184 184 184
 185 185 185 1 184 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 1 185 184 184 184
 184 184 184 1 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 184 184
 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 185 184
 184 184 185 184 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 184
 184 184 184 184 1 184 184 184 1 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 1 184 185 184
 184 185 185 184 184 ... etc etc...
 Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Final sync complete

 So I figured, might as well run fschk -y in single user mode to fix
 potential problems. Now I got some new errors:

 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error
 (retrying request) LBA=1364750271
 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1364750271
 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel:
 g_vfs_done():ad4s1g[WRITE(offset=682932174848, length=131072)]error = 5

 So far, nothing serious has followed from these errors I know off. They
 only happen sporadically, during reboots.

 Are these to problems even related, or am I just unlucky? Anyone has some
 suggestions to fix them?

 Regards,
 Rick

   
Unless there is some incompatibility between FreeBSD - Your disk
controller - Your disk, my best guess is you have a failing disk.  I
would also suggest you check cables, connections (I guess this is an 
ATA disk so you may wish the check whether the flat cable is the
80-conductor type and is plugged in correctly). Hopefully, if you are
just playing with the system, you don't have any critical data in there,
otherwise I would suggest you back up immediately.  Do you have a spare
disk to try and see what happens?
Whether your other problem depends on this: It could be, since your
webserver might be trying to read from a faulty area and keep retrying. 
Or indeed there is some incompatibility and the disk is constantly
under-performing. 
You did not mention the speed of you WAN connection, but FWIW I am
running a webserver behind a 1Mbps/256Kbps ADSL line and response is
good enough. SSH is definitely good enough to use in long vi sessions,
with lengthy documents.
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