Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-03 Thread Jorn Argelo
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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 02:07, Chuck Rock wrote:
 I had a similar problem with this release running on any Dell 2550 Rack
 server I had. I tried three different servers with the same config, and I
 had kernel panics at various times. All of them had different information
 on the screen at each panic.

 I had several people tel lme they had no such problems with the same
 systems.

 I chalked it up to bad driver for the PERC3/DC raid controller. All panics
 seemd to happen under very high disk I/O. The machine would run fine for a
 few days, then just puke.

 I moved all the stuff over to a refurb Compaq Dual Xeon 2.8, and have had
 only one problem lockup in the 5 months I've been running it under
 increasing loads. The last lockup I had also seemed related to disk I/O.

 Otherwise, 5.2.1 has been a very stable production server processing over
 1 million E-mail's a day incoming and hundred thousand out.

 Chuck


During my traineeship we had an PowerEdge 2650 (Dual Xeon with FreeBSD 5.1 at 
that time). The machine had quite high loads (8.00 - 11.00, which was 24/7), 
but it kept working most times. Sometimes after a few days or weeks it 
resulted in a panic. My mentor (who was the Unix specialist) said that it was 
probably been caused by the RAID controller as well. It was a PERC2/DC or 
PERC3/DC, not really sure. I think it's the latter. Anyway, when 5.2 came 
out, my mentor immediately upgraded to 5.2, and the machine became rock 
solid, even with very high loads. It was a monitoring machine, which 
collected over 1600 SMNP requests from every server, so I'm not really sure 
if that produces an high disk I/O or not. 

Perhaps the story is not interesting, but I felt like sharing that.

Cheers,

Jorn


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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-02 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday 01 August 2004 09:08 am, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

 Whenever I load the server a bit more (let [EMAIL PROTECTED] run, compile stuff in
 multiple jails, etc), it will simple go offline. I confirmed with the
 datacenter and it is indeed a panic, but the datacenter didn't give me the
 panic message. I know for *sure* it's because of the high loads.

Hmm, we'd really need the panic message to even start debugging it.

 I need to sort this out, this is a powerful server being cut because of
 FreeBSD/SMP, and I know there is a kernel option to prevent the panic, I
 read about it ages ago on a forum. But I can't locate it. That user said
 if he disabled SMP, panics would stop. But another user suggested adding a
 kernel option (which I simply don't remember), and panics stopped, even
 with SMP.

 I tried KVA_PAGES=512, but it only caused another panic, this time as soon
 as the system started up..

 syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: pmap_invalidate_range:
 interrupts disabled
 cpuid = 0;
 boot() called on cpu#0
 uptime: 9s

Unfortunately, I'd really need the backtrace to see how to fix this panic.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-02 Thread Chuck Rock
I had a similar problem with this release running on any Dell 2550 Rack
server I had. I tried three different servers with the same config, and I
had kernel panics at various times. All of them had different information
on the screen at each panic.

I had several people tel lme they had no such problems with the same
systems.

I chalked it up to bad driver for the PERC3/DC raid controller. All panics
seemd to happen under very high disk I/O. The machine would run fine for a
few days, then just puke.

I moved all the stuff over to a refurb Compaq Dual Xeon 2.8, and have had
only one problem lockup in the 5 months I've been running it under
increasing loads. The last lockup I had also seemed related to disk I/O.

Otherwise, 5.2.1 has been a very stable production server processing over
1 million E-mail's a day incoming and hundred thousand out.

Chuck

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, John Baldwin wrote:

 On Sunday 01 August 2004 09:08 am, Hugo Silva wrote:
  I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
  5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
 
  Whenever I load the server a bit more (let [EMAIL PROTECTED] run, compile stuff in
  multiple jails, etc), it will simple go offline. I confirmed with the
  datacenter and it is indeed a panic, but the datacenter didn't give me the
  panic message. I know for *sure* it's because of the high loads.

 Hmm, we'd really need the panic message to even start debugging it.

  I need to sort this out, this is a powerful server being cut because of
  FreeBSD/SMP, and I know there is a kernel option to prevent the panic, I
  read about it ages ago on a forum. But I can't locate it. That user said
  if he disabled SMP, panics would stop. But another user suggested adding a
  kernel option (which I simply don't remember), and panics stopped, even
  with SMP.
 
  I tried KVA_PAGES=512, but it only caused another panic, this time as soon
  as the system started up..
 
  syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: pmap_invalidate_range:
  interrupts disabled
  cpuid = 0;
  boot() called on cpu#0
  uptime: 9s

 Unfortunately, I'd really need the backtrace to see how to fix this panic.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-01 Thread Jorn Argelo
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On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is simply 
NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you think it's still considered 
as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by a bad driver, but of 
course I can't tell you which one.

So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10 on that machine. It will 
probably solve most of your problems.

Jorn
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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-01 Thread Hugo Silva
4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the server, and I wanted to
try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.

I know there is a solution for this by adding a kernel option, but i'm
completely CLUELESS.

Can anyone give a hint?


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 On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

 Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is
 simply
 NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you think it's still
 considered
 as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by a bad driver, but of
 course I can't tell you which one.

 So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10 on that machine. It
 will
 probably solve most of your problems.

 Jorn
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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-01 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the
server, and I wanted to
try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.

I know there is a solution for this by adding a
kernel option, but i'm
completely CLUELESS.

Can anyone give a hint?


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 On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE
on FreeBSD
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

 Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine
like that? 5.2.1 is
 simply
 NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you
think it's still
 considered
 as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by
a bad driver, but of
 course I can't tell you which one.

 So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10
on that machine. It
 will
 probably solve most of your problems.

 Jorn

Hello,

I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may
be worse than you think. On the other hand, its
solution is close:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html

Refer to item 2 under show stopper defects.

HTH,

Stheg

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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 kernel w/ SMP under high load = panic

2004-08-01 Thread Hugo Silva
Damn.

And any clue on the magic kernel option that stopped the panics? Perhaps
it wasn't *that* magic and just decreased the odds of a panic hapenning
under high load, but that would do for me. I just lost the server 10
minutes ago doing a portupgrade -a with 4 jails running. :x

Regards,

Hugo

 it was said:

4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the
server, and I wanted to
try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.

I know there is a solution for this by adding a
kernel option, but i'm
completely CLUELESS.

Can anyone give a hint?


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 On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE
on FreeBSD
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

 Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine
like that? 5.2.1 is
 simply
 NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you
think it's still
 considered
 as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by
a bad driver, but of
 course I can't tell you which one.

 So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10
on that machine. It
 will
 probably solve most of your problems.

 Jorn

 Hello,

 I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may
 be worse than you think. On the other hand, its
 solution is close:

 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html

 Refer to item 2 under show stopper defects.

 HTH,

 Stheg

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