Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:02:29 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: 1. The Guided partitioning doesn't suggest any more to create /var, /tmp, /usr, etc. file systems. Is it really the recommendation to go with just / ? Depends on who you ask :) and on your intended usage. 2. Is there a way to use the old sysinstall to install FreeBSD 9? Not using the standard distribution IIUC. You might want to look at http://druidbsd.sf.net/ [...] This may be just what I need - thank you. -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:20:03 +0100 Michael Cardell Widerkrantz m...@hack.org wrote: Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com, 2012-02-08 19:42 (+0100): 4. Also, with GPT, one has to be in single user mode to synchronize disks - correct? I think the guide you linked to: http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071 meant that you have to be in single user mode until you have edited /etc/fstab to point to the mirror, otherwise you wouldn't boot with root on the mirror. The synchronization between the disks works fine in multi-user mode as well. I have two 2 TiB disks in gmirror set up just like that. Synchronization was done running in multi-user. You are right - just removed and then re-inserted a component in one of the mirrors and the mirror synchronized fine in multi-user mode. -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: 1. The Guided partitioning doesn't suggest any more to create /var, /tmp, /usr, etc. file systems. Is it really the recommendation to go with just / ? Depends on who you ask :) and on your intended usage. 2. Is there a way to use the old sysinstall to install FreeBSD 9? Not using the standard distribution IIUC. You might want to look at http://druidbsd.sf.net/ 3. It seems that setting up gmirror is more involved with GPT (http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071); now I have a mirror for each of the filesystems /, /var, /tmp, etc. Is it OK to use gmirror in this way at all? Yes, indeed it is the only way to combine GPT and gmirror without getting into trouble of one sort or another. (The conflict between GPT and a full-disk gmirror is actually not new.) 4. Also, with GPT, one has to be in single user mode to synchronize disks - correct? Dunno about this one. 3. Assuming one has enough RAM, is zfs mirror or raidz recommended over gmirror? Same situation as with #1. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com, 2012-02-08 19:42 (+0100): 4. Also, with GPT, one has to be in single user mode to synchronize disks - correct? I think the guide you linked to: http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071 meant that you have to be in single user mode until you have edited /etc/fstab to point to the mirror, otherwise you wouldn't boot with root on the mirror. The synchronization between the disks works fine in multi-user mode as well. I have two 2 TiB disks in gmirror set up just like that. Synchronization was done running in multi-user. -- http://hack.org/mc/ Warning! Plain text e-mail, please. HTML e-mail deleted unread. OpenPGP: 673B 563E 3C78 1BA0 6525 2344 B22E 2C10 E4C9 2FA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:42:59 -0500 Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: Hello Everyone, May be I should have searched more for answers, but after installing FreeBSD 9 with gmirror, I am wondering if the experts here have some recommendations for best practices. 1. The Guided partitioning doesn't suggest any more to create /var, /tmp, /usr, etc. file systems. Is it really the recommendation to go with just / ? This is a bad recommendation I think, but you can accept guidance and the adjust to your needs. 2. Is there a way to use the old sysinstall to install FreeBSD 9? Yes, harder to use, or no the new installer should have some more sane defaults 3. It seems that setting up gmirror is more involved with GPT (http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071); now I have a mirror for each of the filesystems /, /var, /tmp, etc. Is it OK to use gmirror in this way at all? 4. Also, with GPT, one has to be in single user mode to synchronize disks - correct? 3. Assuming one has enough RAM, is zfs mirror or raidz recommended over gmirror? gmirror, still I think Prior to FreeBSD 9, I used to take the the sysinstall defaults with some overrides as I thought appropriate and proceeded to set up gmirror - it was simple and not a lot of work, and a good way to make use of older systems... I think the new installer is quite good, but needs some shaving around the rough edges Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
3. Assuming one has enough RAM, is zfs mirror or raidz recommended over gmirror? zfs mirror but I would not recommend a raidz root on zfs. -- George Kontostanos Aicom telecoms ltd http://www.aisecure.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
I can't speak to the mirror issue, but I had difficulty trying to tweak the defaults in the install on a 128G SSD: When manually configuring the SSD, I tried to leave some extra space at the end of the SSD. Not sure that is necessary or not. In any case, I had a 128GB SSD, reported as 119GB. Auto config laid it out as ada1 119GB ada1p1 64KB freebsd-boot ada1p2 115GB freebsd-ufs / ada1p34GB freebsd-swap I then deleted the last 2 and re-created as 100GB and 4GB, at which point it showed ada1 119GB ada1p1 64KB freebsd-boot ada1p2 100GB freebsd-ufs / ada1p3 -15GB freebsd-swap (I may have the -15 wrong; main point is it was negative) After deleting and recreating in different order I managed to get it to ada1 119GB ada1p1 64KB freebsd-boot ada1p34GB freebsd-swap ada1p2 100GB freebsd-ufs / but when I tried to commit it, I got the error: Error mounting partition /mnt: mount: /dev/ada1p2: Operation not permitted The only way I could get it to actually write the distribution was to use auto and keep what it came up with. Is this problem specific to SSDs (seems unlikely)? Is there some magic sequence needed to tweak the Auto result to get it to work? Gary On 2/8/2012 12:00 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:42:59 -0500 Janos Dohanicsw...@3dresearch.com wrote: Hello Everyone, May be I should have searched more for answers, but after installing FreeBSD 9 with gmirror, I am wondering if the experts here have some recommendations for best practices. 1. The Guided partitioning doesn't suggest any more to create /var, /tmp, /usr, etc. file systems. Is it really the recommendation to go with just / ? This is a bad recommendation I think, but you can accept guidance and the adjust to your needs. 2. Is there a way to use the old sysinstall to install FreeBSD 9? Yes, harder to use, or no the new installer should have some more sane defaults 3. It seems that setting up gmirror is more involved with GPT (http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071); now I have a mirror for each of the filesystems /, /var, /tmp, etc. Is it OK to use gmirror in this way at all? 4. Also, with GPT, one has to be in single user mode to synchronize disks - correct? 3. Assuming one has enough RAM, is zfs mirror or raidz recommended over gmirror? gmirror, still I think Prior to FreeBSD 9, I used to take the the sysinstall defaults with some overrides as I thought appropriate and proceeded to set up gmirror - it was simple and not a lot of work, and a good way to make use of older systems... I think the new installer is quite good, but needs some shaving around the rough edges Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
