Re: FreeBSD and GCC

2004-10-20 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:01:07 +0100, Walker, Michael wrote
 Hi All,
 
 I'm not to familiar with what goes on behind the scenes during the FreeBSD
 install process. So please forgive me if this is a dumb question.
 Is there any way to install FreeBSD without gcc and later build from 
 the ports tree, to enable me to keep upto date with the gcc project 
releases.
 
 Like I said, I don't know if this is possible, but any replies are
 gratefully accepted.
 
 Mick Walker 
 NAAFI Finance International
 
 

As far as I know, FreeBSD maintains their own version of GCC. They patch it 
theirselves while making sure it maintains its compatibility with the ports-
tree. 

And no, you can't install FreeBSD without a compiler (correct me if I'm wrong)
. It's just part of the OS. That is why you're way better off with the 
versions that come with original installation then one from the GCC project 
page. Your question could easily apply to Linux though, but FreeBSD is not 
like that. 

Cheers,

Jorn.
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Re: FreeBSD and GCC

2004-10-20 Thread Subhro
Nopes its not possible. However you can very well use the gcc present
in the port and use the knob to overwirte the system compiler although
that is not recommended.

Regards
S.


On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:01:07 +0100, Walker, Michael
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 Hi All,
 
 I'm not to familiar with what goes on behind the scenes during the FreeBSD
 install process. So please forgive me if this is a dumb question.
 Is there any way to install FreeBSD without gcc and later build from the
 ports tree, to enable me to keep upto date with the gcc project releases.
 
 Like I said, I don't know if this is possible, but any replies are
 gratefully accepted.
 
 Mick Walker
 NAAFI Finance International
 
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Re: FreeBSD and GCC

2004-10-20 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-10-20 13:52, Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:01:07 +0100, Michael Walker wrote:
 
  I'm not to familiar with what goes on behind the scenes during the FreeBSD
  install process. So please forgive me if this is a dumb question.
  Is there any way to install FreeBSD without gcc and later build from the
  ports tree, to enable me to keep upto date with the gcc project releases.
 
  Like I said, I don't know if this is possible, but any replies are
  gratefully accepted.

 Nopes its not possible. However you can very well use the gcc present
 in the port and use the knob to overwirte the system compiler although
 that is not recommended.

It's possible to install the gcc-3.5 port under /usr/local and then set CC
appropriately in your environment.  This will let select programs build with
the newer gcc but will keep the system compiler unchanged.

Overwriting the system compiler might be a serious problem, especially if the
newly installed proves to be buggy and in need of a replacement but is unable
to complete a full buildworld cycle.  You would then have to reinstall the
entire system from the original installation media!

P.S.: Please do not top-post and trim the quoted material to a 'reasonable'
length without losing important context of the original post :-)

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Re: FreeBSD and GCC

2004-10-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 12:42:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2004-10-20 13:52, Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:01:07 +0100, Michael Walker wrote:
  
   I'm not to familiar with what goes on behind the scenes during the FreeBSD
   install process. So please forgive me if this is a dumb question.
   Is there any way to install FreeBSD without gcc and later build from the
   ports tree, to enable me to keep upto date with the gcc project releases.
  
   Like I said, I don't know if this is possible, but any replies are
   gratefully accepted.
 
  Nopes its not possible. However you can very well use the gcc present
  in the port and use the knob to overwirte the system compiler although
  that is not recommended.
 
 It's possible to install the gcc-3.5 port under /usr/local and then set CC
 appropriately in your environment.  This will let select programs build with
 the newer gcc but will keep the system compiler unchanged.
 
 Overwriting the system compiler might be a serious problem, especially if the
 newly installed proves to be buggy and in need of a replacement but is unable
 to complete a full buildworld cycle.  You would then have to reinstall the
 entire system from the original installation media!

Moreover, you usually can't build FreeBSD with a non-system version of
the gcc compiler.

Kris


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